superhuman engines on common hardware?

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when will we see top engines based on neural networks running on common hardware?

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Lyudmil Tsvetkov
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Re: superhuman engines on common hardware?

Post by Lyudmil Tsvetkov »

When Google disbands its company.
CheckersGuy
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Re: superhuman engines on common hardware?

Post by CheckersGuy »

There are quite a few companies working on AI-chips similiar to the TPU's used by google. Two of the companies I am intrested in are Wave and GraphCore.
GraphCore will probably release their AI-accelerator in 2018 and maybe some chess enthusiasts gets one :P
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Re: superhuman engines on common hardware?

Post by smatovic »

smatovic wrote: Wed Dec 06, 2017 10:08 pm I say the race for super human engines just started.

So, when will we see top engines based on neural networks
running on common hardware?

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...looks like the cambrian explosion of NN engines just started :-)

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Re: superhuman engines on common hardware?

Post by dkappe »

You can try out a 48x5 distilled network running on a raspberry pi 3 looking at 8 nodes per move. Let me know if you can win. https://lichess.org/@/MiniHuman
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Post by mwyoung »

Maybe I don't understand the question. But it seems to me we are already running superhuman NN engines on common hardware. All I had to do was go to Micro Center.
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Re: superhuman engines on common hardware?

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Yeah on tcec lc0 equal vs 44 core stockfish on a nvidia 2080ti pretty much
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Re: superhuman engines on common hardware?

Post by grahamj »

mwyoung wrote: Thu Feb 21, 2019 3:17 am Maybe I don't understand the question. But it seems to me we are already running superhuman NN engines on common hardware. All I had to do was go to Micro Center.
Maybe you didn't notice the date of the original post.
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grave digger....3.5 years later, all top ten engines on CCRL use neural networks.

http://ccrl.chessdom.com/ccrl/404/

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smatovic wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 9:59 am grave digger....3.5 years later, all top ten engines on CCRL use neural networks.

http://ccrl.chessdom.com/ccrl/404/

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And in another 6 months all top 15 engines will be those with NNUE :roll:
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Re: superhuman engines on common hardware?

Post by Chessqueen »

CheckersGuy wrote: Thu Dec 07, 2017 5:28 pm There are quite a few companies working on AI-chips similiar to the TPU's used by google. Two of the companies I am intrested in are Wave and GraphCore.
GraphCore will probably release their AI-accelerator in 2018 and maybe some chess enthusiasts gets one :P
Did you posted in 2018 ? Did you travel in time back to 2015, please return back to the present time 2021 :lol: :mrgreen: :lol:
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