Banksia GUI released

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Re: Banksia GUI released

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It's a great job that you included these features [https://prnt.sc/eeBIqPSFIaUH].

And it would be even better if you include Time graph like in TCEC [https://prnt.sc/r-Z5azMjN3oj]

And...

Duplicate 'Panel Name', unsightly.
https://prnt.sc/rWjNrXO_MZxt
https://prnt.sc/b40pwP1Jb5yC
https://prnt.sc/dS73B2hHwGrB
https://prnt.sc/9MQTur-SjCfi

The Panel Name, it should only be once.
Like this => https://prnt.sc/shymPbcGOxXu

Thanks,
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Re: Banksia GUI released

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Hi Pham!

Very often when I add a new engine, BSG 0.54 crashes. After 3 times it gives me this frame and resets almost all GUI data.

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It's worse than the simple crash :D because when I restore my saved layout some settings are always missing: Chess pieces type, score bar, coordinates, figure fonts, tournament & tournament results panels, analysis layout. Only customized colors are kept.

I know how to restore all settings, but it's very boring. Instead tournament and engines data are now correctly saved or easy to restore.

Kind regards, Alex
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huanhuan wrote: Sun Jul 10, 2022 12:53 pm Incorrect report in Database
=> https://prnt.sc/Mr6S5P8UuAyl
=> https://prnt.sc/vaC4t72YmOCo
=> https://prnt.sc/AuNqeAAY6fQ3

This also happens in the report on Tournament Result
=> https://prnt.sc/H8vLQQ7U4RQu

And also we are still waiting for you to include Ordo Elo-rating Tool for the next release.

Thanks,
huanhuan wrote: Sun Jul 10, 2022 1:37 pm It's a great job that you included these features [https://prnt.sc/eeBIqPSFIaUH].

And it would be even better if you include Time graph like in TCEC [https://prnt.sc/r-Z5azMjN3oj]

And...

Duplicate 'Panel Name', unsightly.
https://prnt.sc/rWjNrXO_MZxt
https://prnt.sc/b40pwP1Jb5yC
https://prnt.sc/dS73B2hHwGrB
https://prnt.sc/9MQTur-SjCfi

The Panel Name, it should only be once.
Like this => https://prnt.sc/shymPbcGOxXu

Thanks,
Thanks, Adam,
All bugs will be fixed for the next release

huanhuan wrote: Sun Jul 10, 2022 1:13 pm I want to play against Engine not from the "Starting Position," but from a certain Opening, for example this Opening [1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 e6 3.Nc3 Bb4 4.e3 c5 5.Bd3 Nc6 6.Nf3 Bxc3+ 7.bxc3 d6 8.e4 e5 1/2-1/2].

Unfortunately, BSG doesn't have this option.
Meanwhile, Arena and Cutechess provide it [https://prnt.sc/38KJ6KwHVB6J].

Thanks,
It is a bit complicated, IMO. Perhaps, using FENs or direct edit start positions may be much simpler:

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huanhuan wrote: Sun Jul 10, 2022 1:21 pm Cannot move to the next 'Move' [https://prnt.sc/ZtlysXeIQvUn] with Keyboard [Page Left, and Page Right].

We have to do this by pressing the button which is at the bottom of the 'Moves box' [https://prnt.sc/a0fwrXbSVm8W].

Thanks,
We have changed keys, you may use arrow buttons with control buttons to navigate moves. Normal arrow buttons, and Page Up/Down (without pressing control) are used for navigating on ECA (Extreme Chess Analysis).
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Re: Banksia GUI released

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If it's like what you suggested, which is using FEN, then at PGN, later, we can't go through move 1 to 8, we will only be able to trace directly from move 9.

......

I think this feature [https://prnt.sc/h9m_MTxay271] is really good.

And I have an idea to make the feature even better.

But before that, I think there is a slight flaw in this feature. I don't know if it's set up that way or if it's a bug.

This is what I mean.

I set like this => https://prnt.sc/nva0L-Zh-bXq
What I expect is, Engine (in this case I'm using Stockfish), will play move from 1 to 8 with all of them taking moves from Chessdb.cn.

But as we can see here [https://prnt.sc/6enA505UtxLL], There are a few moves from the engine tucked in there. This means that Stockfish at that time was not accessing Chessdb.cn. I don't know if it's set up that way, or if it's a bug.

If it's set up that way, then it would be nice to be given an option to allow Engines to take all moves completely from the Book within the 'Move range' we set here [https://prnt.sc/ZT9H1G9DDdrq].

And now, here's what I expect you to include in the BSG.

I think, here [https://prnt.sc/M60F9EiUIbeY], you can add one more option, which is 'Score Range'.

So when we select, Seed = -1, and Score Range = -0.44 to 0.44, then in this => https://prnt.sc/CQPk3Nla9iNc, Engine will randomly select all those moves, but only those moves that have score in the range we have set before will be selected randomly. So all moves with a Score less than -0.44 or more than 0.44 will be ignored.

I saw a perfect application of this on Chess.com [https://prnt.sc/hZcfagSMol5U]. All the "bots" there, even those rated at 1500, play an accurate move from the Opening book, at least from move 1 to 8, They always respond with different and accurate moves.

Suppose we play against Danya bot with us as white.
Suppose I open the game with e4, then Danya will respond with E5.
In the next game, if we play again with e4, then it will respond with c5, so the moves of this Bot are very varied.
This is because the Opening Book is very well tuned for these Bots.

...So, when we play against Engine in BSG, the Engine can respond with more varied moves in the Opening.

Lastly, to be honest, your decision to include Chessdb.cn in the BSG is something extraordinary. We only need to open BSG, and we can access a kind of Opening Book library, complete with scores.
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Re: Banksia GUI released

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AlexChess wrote: Sun Jul 10, 2022 6:38 pm Hi Pham!

Very often when I add a new engine, BSG 0.54 crashes. After 3 times it gives me this frame and resets almost all GUI data.

Image

It's worse than the simple crash :D because when I restore my saved layout some settings are always missing: Chess pieces type, score bar, coordinates, figure fonts, tournament & tournament results panels, analysis layout. Only customized colors are kept.

I know how to restore all settings, but it's very boring. Instead tournament and engines data are now correctly saved or easy to restore.

Kind regards, Alex
Just click on the second button (Close the app), BSG won't save over the last layout to "annoy" you.

I will make it easier and clearer to use. Thanks for the feedback.
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Re: Banksia GUI released

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Hi Pham,

'Create' button not working
https://prnt.sc/u40rQv2oFTZY

Thanks,
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Re: Banksia GUI released

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Hi Pham,

Also not working
https://prnt.sc/F1QYuCv4alJe

I press the 'Process' button, but nothing happens.

Thanks,
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Re: Banksia GUI released

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I hope they fix installing engine in the gui because some engines like Francesca doesn't run and install in the GUI, I hope it will be fix in the next update.
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Re: Banksia GUI released

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huanhuan wrote: Tue Jul 12, 2022 2:54 am Hi Pham,

'Create' button not working
https://prnt.sc/u40rQv2oFTZY

Thanks,
huanhuan wrote: Tue Jul 12, 2022 2:58 am Hi Pham,

Also not working
https://prnt.sc/F1QYuCv4alJe

I press the 'Process' button, but nothing happens.

Thanks,
Those bugs will be fixed for the next release. Thanks
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Re: Banksia GUI released

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bastiball wrote: Tue Jul 12, 2022 11:05 am I hope they fix installing engine in the gui because some engines like Francesca doesn't run and install in the GUI, I hope it will be fix in the next update.
Francesca uses Winboard protocol ver 1. BSG supports version 2 but not 1 because the older one (ver 1) requires GUIs to assume too much, making the connection between engines and the GUI too loose, and not suitable for modern software.
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