Twipply wrote: ↑Tue Aug 04, 2020 11:09 pm
Is this meant to be a fair analysis of the idea presented?
I’m sorry I hurt your feelings.
(BTW, I found your engine to be an excellent sparring partner during the development of a0lite.)
It was entirely predictable that I would try my 18 piece or fewer approach with nnue’s.
Here is an nnue that has never seen a position with more than 18 pieces playing against itself, no book. I’m not sure it will be better at endgames, like ender. But it seems to know it’s way around the Spanish.
[pgn]
[Event "?"]
[Site "?"]
[Date "2020.08.04"]
[Round "1"]
[White "18pcB"]
[Black "18pcA"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "C69"]
[GameDuration "00:04:49"]
[GameEndTime "2020-08-04T16:24:06.125 CDT"]
[GameStartTime "2020-08-04T16:19:16.591 CDT"]
[Opening "Ruy Lopez"]
[PlyCount "183"]
[Termination "adjudication"]
[TimeControl "60+1"]
[Variation "Exchange Variation , 5.O-O"]
1. e4 {+0.49/19 2.8s} e5 {-0.49/19 3.3s} 2. Nf3 {+0.55/17 0.89s}
Nc6 {-0.27/18 1.2s} 3. Bb5 {+0.34/19 2.0s} a6 {-0.32/22 3.0s}
4. Bxc6 {+0.26/21 2.4s} dxc6 {-0.30/18 0.68s} 5. O-O {+0.27/18 0.98s}
Qf6 {-0.26/17 1.1s} 6. d4 {+0.37/21 2.8s} exd4 {-0.33/18 1.2s}
7. Bg5 {+0.33/20 1.1s} Qd6 {-0.17/20 1.1s} 8. Nxd4 {+0.43/21 1.4s}
Be7 {-0.17/20 1.4s} 9. Be3 {+0.16/26 10s} Nf6 {-0.16/21 3.4s}
10. f3 {+0.43/17 1.1s} c5 {-0.08/18 0.87s} 11. Ne2 {+0.21/19 2.7s}
Be6 {+0.19/17 1.2s} 12. Nf4 {0.00/20 5.5s} Bc4 {+0.07/21 2.9s}
13. Qxd6 {0.00/18 0.80s} cxd6 {-0.10/21 2.0s} 14. Rf2 {+0.16/19 2.2s}
g5 {-0.39/20 3.7s} 15. Nd3 {+0.18/18 1.7s} Nd7 {-0.27/17 1.3s}
16. Nc3 {+0.26/17 1.1s} O-O {-0.29/20 7.6s} 17. Rd1 {+0.26/21 7.9s}
Be6 {-0.27/21 4.5s} 18. Rfd2 {+0.45/21 1.7s} b5 {-0.55/20 1.1s}
19. b3 {+0.33/19 2.2s} Rad8 {-0.20/17 1.2s} 20. a3 {+0.75/19 4.1s}
Kg7 {-0.34/21 5.8s} 21. Nf2 {+1.09/19 1.2s} Nb6 {-0.84/20 2.8s}
22. Nh1 {+0.90/19 1.6s} Rd7 {-0.45/18 1.1s} 23. g4 {+0.83/20 1.4s}
Rfd8 {-0.62/21 4.0s} 24. Ng3 {+1.06/18 1.1s} Kg6 {-0.69/18 0.80s}
25. h4 {+1.29/18 1.3s} h6 {-0.74/22 1.8s} 26. Nf5 {+1.04/22 3.0s}
Bf8 {-0.90/21 2.7s} 27. h5+ {+1.01/22 1.6s} Kh7 {-0.81/21 1.2s}
28. Bf2 {+1.12/20 1.1s} Bg7 {-0.87/22 2.5s} 29. Nxg7 {+0.87/22 2.9s}
Kxg7 {-0.66/20 1.9s} 30. Rd3 {+0.85/24 4.2s} f6 {-0.75/22 2.2s}
31. R3d2 {+0.78/20 1.1s} Kf7 {-0.77/23 5.9s} 32. Ne2 {+0.86/22 2.7s}
Nc8 {-0.78/25 5.0s} 33. Ng3 {+0.97/21 2.9s} Rc7 {-0.92/23 4.1s}
34. Nf1 {+1.22/20 1.9s} c4 {-0.83/23 1.6s} 35. b4 {+1.15/18 0.69s}
Rcd7 {-0.53/23 1.3s} 36. Ne3 {+1.00/22 1.00s} Ne7 {-1.07/24 1.9s}
37. Nf5 {+1.15/21 1.2s} Bxf5 {-0.66/20 0.60s} 38. gxf5 {+1.12/23 1.2s}
d5 {-0.94/23 2.8s} 39. Bc5 {+1.17/22 2.6s} c3 {-0.98/22 1.0s}
40. Rd3 {+1.79/22 0.64s} Nc6 {-0.89/23 1.0s} 41. Rxd5 {+1.79/22 0.89s}
Rxd5 {-1.76/21 1.3s} 42. exd5 {+1.71/23 1.3s} Ne5 {-1.45/21 0.61s}
43. Kf2 {+2.18/19 0.72s} Nc4 {-1.61/20 0.51s} 44. d6 {+2.59/20 0.94s}
Rd7 {-2.88/24 4.5s} 45. Rd3 {+2.79/20 0.81s} Rd8 {-2.91/20 0.50s}
46. Rxc3 {+2.85/21 0.86s} Ke8 {-2.95/22 0.78s} 47. Rd3 {+3.87/20 0.89s}
Kd7 {-3.20/20 0.80s} 48. Bd4 {+3.68/23 1.5s} Re8 {-3.06/19 0.24s}
49. Bxf6 {+3.65/23 0.78s} Rf8 {-3.46/22 0.78s} 50. Bg7 {+4.13/22 0.88s}
Rxf5 {-3.99/21 1.0s} 51. Kg3 {+4.63/23 1.2s} Rf7 {-3.97/21 0.72s}
52. Bxh6 {+4.64/21 1.3s} Rh7 {-3.57/18 0.49s} 53. Bxg5 {+4.98/21 0.82s}
Rxh5 {-3.82/20 1.0s} 54. Be7 {+4.99/21 1.4s} Rh1 {-4.69/21 3.8s}
55. f4 {+5.24/20 1.1s} Rf1 {-5.09/19 0.56s} 56. Kg4 {+5.25/19 0.88s}
Rf2 {-5.12/19 0.56s} 57. Rc3 {+5.65/21 1.3s} Rg2+ {-5.15/21 0.68s}
58. Kf5 {+6.05/23 2.2s} Rf2 {-4.60/19 0.38s} 59. Kg5 {+6.08/20 0.71s}
Ke6 {-5.80/18 0.90s} 60. Kg4 {+6.20/19 1.1s} Rg2+ {-5.57/20 2.6s}
61. Kf3 {+6.33/20 0.67s} Rg1 {-4.39/19 0.54s} 62. f5+ {+6.90/18 0.70s}
Kd7 {-4.46/17 0.38s} 63. f6 {+6.80/19 1.1s} Ke6 {-6.81/20 2.7s}
64. Kf2 {+7.23/21 0.87s} Rg6 {-5.35/15 0.12s} 65. d7 {+7.44/19 0.71s}
Kxd7 {-7.23/18 0.72s} 66. Rf3 {+7.89/21 1.4s} Ne5 {-6.91/17 0.26s}
67. f7 {+8.03/19 0.68s} Nxf7 {-7.66/19 0.99s} 68. Rxf7 {+8.19/20 0.97s}
Ke6 {-7.52/18 1.1s} 69. Rh7 {+8.35/20 1.1s} Kd5 {-8.06/17 0.60s}
70. Rh4 {+8.36/19 0.99s} Ke6 {-8.74/19 3.1s} 71. Bc5 {+9.04/18 0.81s}
Kf7 {-9.32/19 1.4s} 72. Ke2 {+9.55/18 0.77s} Kg8 {-9.97/16 0.93s}
73. Rh5 {+10.44/22 1.8s} Kf7 {-10.07/19 0.60s} 74. Kd3 {+10.74/19 0.72s}
Rf6 {-10.08/20 0.94s} 75. Ke4 {+11.22/19 0.68s} Rg6 {-10.09/18 0.63s}
76. Rh7+ {+11.69/19 0.82s} Kf6 {-11.78/19 1.8s} 77. Be3 {+12.20/18 0.73s}
Rg8 {-11.78/18 0.27s} 78. Rh6+ {+12.81/17 0.81s} Ke7 {-12.94/18 1.7s}
79. Rxa6 {+14.62/20 1.3s} Kd7 {-12.49/17 0.51s} 80. Kd5 {+14.59/19 0.72s}
Kc7 {-15.12/20 1.5s} 81. Kc5 {+16.64/19 0.76s} Re8 {-10.56/17 0.38s}
82. Bd4 {+18.86/19 1.2s} Re2 {-20.31/18 1.6s} 83. c3 {+21.45/18 0.77s}
Re4 {-22.45/18 1.1s} 84. Kxb5 {+22.10/17 0.80s} Rh4 {-15.62/15 0.28s}
85. a4 {+29.19/19 0.94s} Kd7 {-29.87/17 1.2s} 86. a5 {+32.67/18 0.81s}
Rh1 {-38.97/17 1.4s} 87. Rb6 {+154.08/25 2.5s} Rh5+ {-154.00/16 0.70s}
88. Bc5 {+154.09/30 0.60s} Ke8 {-154.10/20 0.34s} 89. a6 {+M23/28 0.78s}
Rh1 {-M22/26 0.43s} 90. a7 {+M21/32 0.81s} Ra1 {-M18/25 0.37s}
91. Ra6 {+M19/33 0.81s} Rxa6 {-M16/31 0.39s}
92. Kxa6 {+M13/37 0.79s, White wins by adjudication: SyzygyTB} 1-0
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