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Knight Sac by Thinker 5.1c Passive - Does Your Engine Play It?

Post by BrendanJNorman » Thu Oct 08, 2020 12:48 pm

So I was running a tournament between a bunch of stylish engines and witnessed a typically brutal attacking game by an old (but famous) version of Thinker...

13.Nxf7!? is a very interesting move not because it is so brilliant, but because this type of position comes up SOO often in Thinker's games.

Really a shame that work ended on this engine. Anyway, do your engines play it?



32.Bd7+ is a nice touch too. :)

Here's the FEN


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Re: Knight Sac by Thinker 5.1c Passive - Does Your Engine Play It?

Post by jmartus » Thu Oct 08, 2020 2:15 pm

Hey what happened to your site? I liked going on there looking for updates on settings you found or trying other engines out

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Re: Knight Sac by Thinker 5.1c Passive - Does Your Engine Play It?

Post by mvanthoor » Thu Oct 08, 2020 2:20 pm

Knight sacrifice, pawn sacrifice and another pawn sacrifice to open lines, and then a bishop sac on d7 to be able to then play bf8 with check-tempo...

And this is the passive version? I'd like to see the aggressive one then :)

I'll have to see if Thinker has a level setting. I like this engine already. It plays risky chess, like I do :)
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Re: Knight Sac by Thinker 5.1c Passive - Does Your Engine Play It?

Post by jmartus » Thu Oct 08, 2020 3:05 pm

No it doesn't have any settings doesn't even show pv lines

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Re: Knight Sac by Thinker 5.1c Passive - Does Your Engine Play It?

Post by mhouppin » Thu Oct 08, 2020 3:22 pm

BrendanJNorman wrote:
Thu Oct 08, 2020 12:48 pm
So I was running a tournament between a bunch of stylish engines and witnessed a typically brutal attacking game by an old (but famous) version of Thinker...

13.Nxf7!? is a very interesting move not because it is so brilliant, but because this type of position comes up SOO often in Thinker's games.

Really a shame that work ended on this engine. Anyway, do your engines play it?



32.Bd7+ is a nice touch too. :)

Here's the FEN

I made Stash analyse the position for one minute, and it plays a very similar sacrifice: Ne6 !

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FEN: r1bqr1k1/1p1n1pb1/p2p1npp/2pP2N1/4PP2/2N5/PP2B1PP/R1BQ1RK1 w - - 0 13

Stash v21.1:
21/42	00:51	 127 511k	2 476k	-0,92	1.Ne6 fxe6 2.dxe6 Rxe6 3.f5 Re8 4.Bc4+ Kh8 5.Bf7 Nxe4 6.fxg6 Nxc3 7.bxc3 Re4 8.Bd5 Re5 9.Bf4 Rf5 10.g4 Bd4+ 11.cxd4

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Re: Knight Sac by Thinker 5.1c Passive - Does Your Engine Play It?

Post by BrendanJNorman » Fri Oct 09, 2020 4:50 pm

jmartus wrote:
Thu Oct 08, 2020 2:15 pm
Hey what happened to your site? I liked going on there looking for updates on settings you found or trying other engines out
I have something in the works, stay tuned. :)

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Re: Knight Sac by Thinker 5.1c Passive - Does Your Engine Play It?

Post by BrendanJNorman » Fri Oct 09, 2020 4:52 pm

mvanthoor wrote:
Thu Oct 08, 2020 2:20 pm
Knight sacrifice, pawn sacrifice and another pawn sacrifice to open lines, and then a bishop sac on d7 to be able to then play bf8 with check-tempo...

And this is the passive version? I'd like to see the aggressive one then :)

I'll have to see if Thinker has a level setting. I like this engine already. It plays risky chess, like I do :)
Great attacking game, right?

Thinker has no "level setting" per sey, but if you want to play against it, use the Active version.

Thinker Active was designed for human play and will deliberately play sub-optimal, but tricky moves and try to swindle you. Quite a fun and creative opponent.

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Re: Knight Sac by Thinker 5.1c Passive - Does Your Engine Play It?

Post by BrendanJNorman » Fri Oct 09, 2020 5:05 pm

mhouppin wrote:
Thu Oct 08, 2020 3:22 pm
BrendanJNorman wrote:
Thu Oct 08, 2020 12:48 pm
So I was running a tournament between a bunch of stylish engines and witnessed a typically brutal attacking game by an old (but famous) version of Thinker...

13.Nxf7!? is a very interesting move not because it is so brilliant, but because this type of position comes up SOO often in Thinker's games.

Really a shame that work ended on this engine. Anyway, do your engines play it?



32.Bd7+ is a nice touch too. :)

Here's the FEN

I made Stash analyse the position for one minute, and it plays a very similar sacrifice: Ne6 !

Code: Select all

FEN: r1bqr1k1/1p1n1pb1/p2p1npp/2pP2N1/4PP2/2N5/PP2B1PP/R1BQ1RK1 w - - 0 13

Stash v21.1:
21/42	00:51	 127 511k	2 476k	-0,92	1.Ne6 fxe6 2.dxe6 Rxe6 3.f5 Re8 4.Bc4+ Kh8 5.Bf7 Nxe4 6.fxg6 Nxc3 7.bxc3 Re4 8.Bd5 Re5 9.Bf4 Rf5 10.g4 Bd4+ 11.cxd4
Ne6 is a very interesting move!

You made me curious about Stash and so I downloaded it and had a bit of a play.

Nice unique playing style. Thanks, I love it.

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Re: Knight Sac by Thinker 5.1c Passive - Does Your Engine Play It?

Post by mclane » Fri Oct 09, 2020 5:16 pm

Sacrificing engines are cool.
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Re: Knight Sac by Thinker 5.1c Passive - Does Your Engine Play It?

Post by Werewolf » Fri Oct 09, 2020 8:08 pm

wasn't there some kind of Thinker scandal?

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