Minic version 3

[xr_a_y]

It gets a bit weirder with Banksia

At some point Minic received a ponderhit when the search has not even started to send things to GUI

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info string Info  2021-07-06 11:11:42-944: Received command : "go ponder wtime 28236 btime 25724 winc 300 binc 300"
[...]   <<<<==== starting the search
info string Info  2021-07-06 11:11:42-944: Received command : "ponderhit"   <<<<<==== at the exact same time (ms resolution)
[...] <<<<===== at this point Minic will thus search BUT as ponderhit is already sent, will use a finite time
info string Info  2021-07-06 11:11:42-944: requested time  1798 (1798)
[...]
info string Info  2021-07-06 11:11:44-602: sending move to GUI g8f6
bestmove g8f6 ponder b1c3
[...]
info string Info  2021-07-06 11:11:44-603: Received command : "position startpos moves e2e4 e7e6 d2d4 d7d5 e4d5 e6d5 g1f3 g8f6 b1c3"
[...]

I'm a bit confused

If I filter the log to get only received command from Banksia and best move sending from Minic

I add separator for a better reading

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info string Info  2021-07-06 11:11:34-711: Received command : "uci"
info string Info  2021-07-06 11:11:34-711: Received command : "setoption name Hash value 64"
info string Info  2021-07-06 11:11:34-733: Received command : "setoption name Threads value 1"
info string Info  2021-07-06 11:11:34-738: Received command : "setoption name Ponder value true"
info string Info  2021-07-06 11:11:34-738: Received command : "isready"
info string Info  2021-07-06 11:11:34-904: Received command : "ucinewgame"
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info string Info  2021-07-06 11:11:37-058: Received command : "position startpos moves e2e4"
info string Info  2021-07-06 11:11:37-058: Received command : "go wtime 28346 btime 30000 winc 300 binc 300"
bestmove e7e6 ponder d2d4
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info string Info  2021-07-06 11:11:38-525: Received command : "position startpos moves e2e4 e7e6 d2d4"
info string Info  2021-07-06 11:11:38-525: Received command : "go ponder wtime 28646 btime 28532 winc 300 binc 300"
info string Info  2021-07-06 11:11:38-599: Received command : "ponderhit"
bestmove d7d5 ponder b1c3
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info string Info  2021-07-06 11:11:39-820: Received command : "position startpos moves e2e4 e7e6 d2d4 d7d5 b1c3"
info string Info  2021-07-06 11:11:39-820: Received command : "go ponder wtime 28872 btime 27615 winc 300 binc 300"
info string Info  2021-07-06 11:11:40-753: Received command : "stop"
bestmove g8f6 ponder e4d5
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info string Info  2021-07-06 11:11:40-754: Received command : "position startpos moves e2e4 e7e6 d2d4 d7d5 e4d5"
info string Info  2021-07-06 11:11:40-754: Received command : "go wtime 27936 btime 27915 winc 300 binc 300"
bestmove e6d5 ponder g1f3
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info string Info  2021-07-06 11:11:42-944: Received command : "position startpos moves e2e4 e7e6 d2d4 d7d5 e4d5 e6d5 g1f3"
info string Info  2021-07-06 11:11:42-944: Received command : "go ponder wtime 28236 btime 25724 winc 300 binc 300"
info string Info  2021-07-06 11:11:42-944: Received command : "ponderhit"                <<<<<<<<<<<<========== ????????
bestmove g8f6 ponder b1c3
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info string Info  2021-07-06 11:11:44-603: Received command : "position startpos moves e2e4 e7e6 d2d4 d7d5 e4d5 e6d5 g1f3 g8f6 b1c3"
info string Info  2021-07-06 11:11:44-603: Received command : "go ponder wtime 28526 btime 24366 winc 300 binc 300"
info string Info  2021-07-06 11:11:44-603: Received command : "stop"                 <<<<<<<<<<<<========== ????????

[xr_a_y]

cutechess can do the exact same thing : send go ponder and just after ponderhit. Seems it is related to very near mate situation

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info string Info  2021-07-06 12:51:44-266: Received command : "go ponder wtime 596 btime 260 winc 100 binc 100"
info string Info  2021-07-06 12:51:44-266: Received command : "ponderhit"

[CMCanavessi]

cutechess can do the exact same thing : send go ponder and just after ponderhit. Seems it is related to very near mate situation

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info string Info  2021-07-06 12:51:44-266: Received command : "go ponder wtime 596 btime 260 winc 100 binc 100"
info string Info  2021-07-06 12:51:44-266: Received command : "ponderhit"

Maybe it's because when it's the opponent's turn, it's an instant move (as it was also pondering), so it's a very fast sequence. I don't know, just thinking what may be the reason.

Engine A plays a move and starts pondering
Engine B starts thinking
Engine B plays a move and starts pondering, but engine A answers that move with another move instantly, as it guessed the Engine B's move

[xr_a_y]

cutechess can do the exact same thing : send go ponder and just after ponderhit. Seems it is related to very near mate situation

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info string Info  2021-07-06 12:51:44-266: Received command : "go ponder wtime 596 btime 260 winc 100 binc 100"
info string Info  2021-07-06 12:51:44-266: Received command : "ponderhit"

Maybe it's because when it's the opponent's turn, it's an instant move (as it was also pondering), so it's a very fast sequence. I don't know, just thinking what may be the reason.

Engine A plays a move and starts pondering
Engine B starts thinking
Engine B plays a move and starts pondering, but engine A answers that move with another move instantly, as it guessed the Engine B's move

yes indeed : forum3/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=77650

[xr_a_y]

I'm glad to release today Minic 3.09 with some bug fixes and a new embedded net named "nidicolous nighthawk".

https://github.com/tryingsomestuff/Mini ... s/tag/3.09

This net plays quite good FRC chess and is a little stronger than negligible nystagmus at standard chess.

As always, binaries are here : https://github.com/tryingsomestuff/Mini ... ter/Minic3 (and nets there https://github.com/tryingsomestuff/NNUE-Nets if needed).

Have fun.

[CMCanavessi]

Great! As soon as Banksia fixes the chess 960 support I will put it in my tournament

[Rebel]

I'm glad to release today Minic 3.09 with some bug fixes and a new embedded net named "nidicolous nighthawk".

https://github.com/tryingsomestuff/Mini ... s/tag/3.09

This net plays quite good FRC chess and is a little stronger than negligible nystagmus at standard chess.

As always, binaries are here : https://github.com/tryingsomestuff/Mini ... ter/Minic3 (and nets there https://github.com/tryingsomestuff/NNUE-Nets if needed).

Have fun.

Running 3.09 for the GRL.

1800 games.

http://rebel13.nl/a/grl.htm

Minic made a good start....

[CMCanavessi]

I'm glad to release today Minic 3.09 with some bug fixes and a new embedded net named "nidicolous nighthawk".

https://github.com/tryingsomestuff/Mini ... s/tag/3.09

This net plays quite good FRC chess and is a little stronger than negligible nystagmus at standard chess.

As always, binaries are here : https://github.com/tryingsomestuff/Mini ... ter/Minic3 (and nets there https://github.com/tryingsomestuff/NNUE-Nets if needed).

Have fun.

You might want to check, just in case: http://talkchess.com/forum3/viewtopic.p ... 22#p901322

[Rebel]

Minic 3.09 -22

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Gambit Rating List
Running      : Gauntlet Minic 3.09
Time Control : Time control 40/120
Games        : 1800

Results from file gauntlet-minic-309.pgn:

No. Name             Win Draw Loss Unf.  Score Games       %
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  1 Minic 3.09      +431 =634 -735   *0  748.0  1800   41.6%
  2 Marvin 5.1       +97  =75  -28   *0  134.5   200   67.2%
  3 Stash 31.0       +90  =68  -42   *0  124.0   200   62.0%
  4 Halogen 10       +85  =74  -41   *0  122.0   200   61.0%
  5 Seer 2.0.1       +87  =69  -44   *0  121.5   200   60.8%
  6 Wasp 4.50        +84  =75  -41   *0  121.5   200   60.8%
  7 Combusken 1.4.0  +78  =73  -49   *0  114.5   200   57.2%
  8 Weiss 1.3        +84  =59  -57   *0  113.5   200   56.8%
  9 Clover 2.3.1     +76  =65  -59   *0  108.5   200   54.2%
 10 Orion 0.8        +54  =76  -70   *0   92.0   200   46.0%

Total Games:    1800
White Wins:      580 (32.2%)
Black Wins:      586 (32.6%)
Draws:           634 (35.2%)
Unfinished:        0 (0.0%)

Estimated elo gain for Minic_3.09
Elo pool : 3125
Minic 3.08 : 3093.0
Minic_3.09 : 3070.6
Difference : -22.4

Minic 3.04 is still the best version, I will replay this 1800 game match with the standard evaluation as Minic 3.04x

http://rebel13.nl/a/grl.htm

[xr_a_y]

Minic 3.09 -22

Minic 3.04 is still the best version, I will replay this 1800 game match with the standard evaluation as Minic 3.04x

http://rebel13.nl/a/grl.htm

Thanks for the test. I'm not sure to understand your last sentence. Minic 3.04 was tested HCE or with a net ?