Where is Father famous anti computer chess player

[Father]

Thank you Larry. A very good place. I played as a guest versus a computer in level “25” … what a very good engine !! This engine is an “ anti anti chess computer chess player”…
Thanks.
Pablo

computer level 25 is just normal Komodo (pre-dragon, maybe close to version 14) running at full strength but only on one core, perhaps with a higher than normal Contempt setting. You are right that we have made special effort to program it to play well against humans and to avoid totally blocked drawn positions (unless we are otherwise losing). I give you credit for being a motivating factor in doing this.

Thanks Larry.

For me it is an immense happiness, knowing that the results of my battle and my passion of playing chess against the machines produce some result in the transformation and in the profile of the design of the logic of artificial intelligence. From the corner where I am located, I will continue fighting against the machine in the game of man against machine, which is no different, to a game of chess between the human user against the human programmer of software and machines; If God grants me the gifts of life, health, and time and If the Divine Providence gives me the authorization to continue fighting, I will continue looking for the door and the narrow path to enter the heart of the computer's CPU.
As a human being, I am aware of my own existence; is the computer aware of its existence? I hope the answer is that the machine does not know that it exists in itself and this then, will be my advantage as a human.
Then, I will try to leave the fear and pressure generated by the colossal power of the game of the tactical monster, fear that should be left out of the ring; My secret will be that I as a human study and interpret the personality and the characteristics of the algorithm of the machine, and silently enter its deepest essence and defeat or neutralize it.
The human once crosses the horizon line begins a new life; I wonder: Does the machine have limited its horizon? Does artificial intelligence go every time it progresses putting deeper and deeper the line of its horizon and blind spot?
Thanks Larry again,
Sincerely,
Pablo

[fechavarria52]

I find this entire conversation fascinating, I am perhaps one of the lowest-ranked players in this forum; however, this discussion of a human-designed AI algorithm against a strong player, where the human without being ranked as a globally recognized grandmaster yet is able to defeat the system at what I understand is its highest level is absolutely fascinating. Even more so, when I ponder from my low viewing point that the underlying personalities of the designer and the chess player must truly be a part of how each decides to either design or play the game, much more so than at my level where it is still much more a question of chance or of poorly constructed chess strategy. I hope this conversation continues as it is a chance for people like me to see a little into the minds of these giants. - El Gato

[lkaufman]

I find this entire conversation fascinating, I am perhaps one of the lowest-ranked players in this forum; however, this discussion of a human-designed AI algorithm against a strong player, where the human without being ranked as a globally recognized grandmaster yet is able to defeat the system at what I understand is its highest level is absolutely fascinating. Even more so, when I ponder from my low viewing point that the underlying personalities of the designer and the chess player must truly be a part of how each decides to either design or play the game, much more so than at my level where it is still much more a question of chance or of poorly constructed chess strategy. I hope this conversation continues as it is a chance for people like me to see a little into the minds of these giants. - El Gato

To clarify, as far as I know "father" has never won a single game against a computer except for wins on time due to insufficient allowance in settings for lag. The makers of the programs set their defaults for games played on a single computer, but much larger overhead settings are needed for online play due to "lag", and perhaps whoever set up the bots online didn't set these numbers high enough. What "father" has done is to demonstrate that Stockfish (and perhaps certain other engines) were not programmed to avoid blocking up the position in favorable positions to the point where a draw became unavoidable. This is certainly a flaw in the engine and "father" deserves credit for pointing it out. Probably it happened so rarely in engine vs. engine testing that fixing it never helped in such testing. Similarly Stockfish is very weak at giving substantial handicaps like knight odds, simply because when playing itself it will always lose from such positions and so never learns to resist sensibly. There is still a benefit to testing engines against humans (whether with huge time handicaps or material ones) as this reveals flaws not normally seen in engine vs. engine testing.

[Father]

I find this entire conversation fascinating, I am perhaps one of the lowest-ranked players in this forum; however, this discussion of a human-designed AI algorithm against a strong player, where the human without being ranked as a globally recognized grandmaster yet is able to defeat the system at what I understand is its highest level is absolutely fascinating. Even more so, when I ponder from my low viewing point that the underlying personalities of the designer and the chess player must truly be a part of how each decides to either design or play the game, much more so than at my level where it is still much more a question of chance or of poorly constructed chess strategy. I hope this conversation continues as it is a chance for people like me to see a little into the minds of these giants. - El Gato

... Thank you for the good encouragement that you give to all the players who practice chess for fun or passion

The games of chess against the machines that I have won can be counted by the thousands, most of these victories have been "on time" in which sometimes the algorithms went crazy and in many others they simply lead to the exhaustion of the computer due to the falling of the flag.

It is a chess rule that time marks the line between victory and defeat and that when that time runs out for your opponent, you win the game. I provide you with this easy and simple draw in chess that a moment ago I tipped the computer on my desk in ranked mode where you cannot view the computer's evaluation nor can you reverse movements.

With the advent of AI I believed that the end of the possibility of neutralizing the power of computers had come; However, experience is showing me that we humans still have the way to stop the power of tactical monsters from playing chess: "The machines."

Never forget that scientific advances today have allowed you, from a cell phone to a sophisticated computer, to offer you to be the machine your opponent, at the master level, or at a level that you adapt, no matter what your level of play is low, high, intermediate, expert, teacher or of the highest power.

Sincerely,

Pablo
Father and Grand-Father playchess engines room (A human being)

[pgn][Event "Blitz 3min"]
[Site "?"]
[Date "2021.08.01"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Rated game"]
[Black "Restrepo, Pablo"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[ECO "A90"]
[WhiteElo "2555"]
[BlackElo "1620"]
[PlyCount "162"]
[TimeControl "180"]

1. Nf3 {0} d5 {2} 2. d4 {0} e6 {1} 3. g3 {0} f5 {1} 4. c4 {0} Nf6 {1} 5. Bg2 {0
} c6 {1} 6. Bf4 {0} Bd6 {1} 7. Nbd2 {3} O-O {1} 8. O-O {2} Re8 {1} 9. a3 {1}
Qe7 {1} 10. Bxd6 {1} Qxd6 {1} 11. Rc1 {4} Nbd7 {1} 12. Qa4 {4} a6 {1} 13. Rfe1
{3} g6 {1} 14. e3 {1} Nf8 {1} 15. c5 {3} Qc7 {2} 16. Ne5 {1} N8d7 {2} 17. Ndf3
{1} Nxe5 {2} 18. Nxe5 {1} Nd7 {1} 19. Nd3 {1} Nf6 {2} 20. Red1 {2} Bd7 {0} 21.
Bf3 {1} Reb8 {1} 22. Be2 {3} Kg7 {0} 23. h4 {3} Ra7 {0} 24. Ne5 {1} h5 {1} 25.
Re1 {1} Be8 {1} 26. Red1 {1} Nd7 {1} 27. Nf3 {3} Nf6 {1} 28. b4 {3} Rba8 {0}
29. Qa5 {1} Qxa5 {3} 30. bxa5 {1} Rc8 {1} 31. Rd3 {1} Rc7 {0} 32. Rb3 {2} Bd7 {
1} 33. Re1 {3} Bc8 {0} 34. Rb2 {1} Kg8 {1} 35. Ne5 {0} Kg7 {1} 36. Kh2 {1} Nd7
{1} 37. Nxd7 {1} Bxd7 {1} 38. Rf1 {3} Bc8 {0} 39. Kg1 {1} Re7 {1} 40. f4 {1}
Rf7 {1} 41. Kh1 {2} Rc7 {0} 42. Rb3 {1} Kf6 {0} 43. Rfb1 {3} Ke7 {0} 44. a4 {1}
Kd7 {1} 45. Kg2 {2} Kd8 {0} 46. Kf3 {1} Kd7 {0} 47. Rb4 {2} Kd8 {1} 48. Bf1 {1}
Rh7 {1} 49. Ke2 {1} Rc7 {1} 50. Kd3 {1} Ke8 {0} 51. R4b2 {3} Kd8 {0} 52. Kc3 {2
} Ke8 {0} 53. Be2 {1} Kd8 {1} 54. Kd3 {1} Ke8 {1} 55. Rb6 {1} Rh7 {1} 56. Rd1 {
1} Kd8 {1} 57. Re1 {1} Ke7 {1} 58. Bf3 {2} Kd7 {1} 59. Reb1 {2} Kc7 {0} 60.
R6b3 {2} Kd7 {0} 61. Bd1 {1} Kc7 {0} 62. Ke2 {0} Kd7 {1} 63. Rb6 {2} Kc7 {0}
64. Kf3 {1} Bd7 {1} 65. Kf2 {0} Bc8 {0} 66. Bf3 {1} Bd7 {0} 67. Bg2 {2} Bc8 {0}
68. Bf1 {1} Re7 {1} 69. Bg2 {2} Rg7 {0} 70. R6b3 {2} Rh7 {0} 71. Bf1 {1} Bd7 {1
} 72. Kf3 {1} Bc8 {1} 73. Kf2 {2} Rg7 {1} 74. Kf3 {1} Re7 {0} 75. Rc1 {2} Rg7 {
0} 76. Ke2 {0} Rh7 {1} 77. Kf2 {1} Rg7 {0} 78. Ra1 {1} Rh7 {0} 79. Re1 {1} Rg7
{0} 80. Rc1 {0} Rh7 {0} 81. Rcb1 {1} Rg7 {0} 1/2-1/2

[/pgn]

[Father]

I find this entire conversation fascinating, I am perhaps one of the lowest-ranked players in this forum; however, this discussion of a human-designed AI algorithm against a strong player, where the human without being ranked as a globally recognized grandmaster yet is able to defeat the system at what I understand is its highest level is absolutely fascinating. Even more so, when I ponder from my low viewing point that the underlying personalities of the designer and the chess player must truly be a part of how each decides to either design or play the game, much more so than at my level where it is still much more a question of chance or of poorly constructed chess strategy. I hope this conversation continues as it is a chance for people like me to see a little into the minds of these giants. - El Gato

Thank you fechavarria52 again: A new good example

[pgn][Event "vs Computer"]
[Site "Chess.com"]
[Date "2021.08.01"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Guest"]
[Black "Maximum"]
[Result "*"]
[TimeControl "-"]

1. d4 Nf6 2. e3 c5 3. f4 e6 4. c3 b6 5. Nf3 Be7 6. Bc4 Bb7 7. O-O O-O 8. Qe2 d5
9. Bd3 Ne4 10. a3 Nd7 11. Re1 a6 12. Nbd2 b5 13. Nb1 c4 14. Bc2 Qc7 15. Kh1 Rfc8
16. Kg1 f6 17. Nfd2 Bc6 18. Nxe4 dxe4 19. Nd2 f5 20. Kh1 Nf6 21. Rg1 h5 22. h4
Bd5 23. g3 a5 24. Rg2 b4 25. Nb1 Ng4 26. Kg1 g6 27. Kh1 Bd6 28. Kg1 Kg7 29. Kh1
Rab8 30. Kg1 Kg8 31. Kh1 Qe7 32. Kg1 Rd8 33. Kh1 Kh7 34. Kg1 Ra8 35. Kh1 Rdc8
36. Kg1 Qc7 37. Kh1 Qc6 38. Kg1 Qb7 39. Kh1 Rab8 40. Kg1 Ra8 41. Kh1 Qe7 42. Kg1
Kg7 43. Kh1 Rab8 44. Kg1 Qd8 45. Kh1 Kh7 46. Kg1 Ra8 47. Kh1 Kg8 48. Kg1 Rc7 49.
Kh1 Rb7 50. Kg1 Kh7 51. Kh1 Kg8 52. Kg1 Kg7 53. Kh1 Rab8 54. Kg1 Qe7 55. Kh1 Rc7
56. Kg1 Rcc8 57. Kh1 Kh6 58. Kg1 Qc7 59. Kh1 Qd8 60. Kg1 Qe7 61. Kh1 Kg7 62. Kg1
Qc7 63. Kh1 Kg8 64. Kg1 Rd8 65. Kh1 Qe7 66. Kg1 Kg7 67. Kh1 Rb6 68. Kg1 Rbb8 69.
Kh1 Qf6 70. Kg1 Qf7 71. Kh1 Qe7 72. Kg1 Rf8 73. Kh1 Rb6 74. Kg1 b3 75. Bd1 a4 *[/pgn]

Here I here I decided to go to rest; I don't know what the end result of the game against Komodo would be. Here I put the padlock to the computer, the stirrup and the chair. ... just a moment ago today July 8, 2021

Elo computer 3.200
My elo: No idea. There is not important for me.
Best regards.
Pablo
Father and Grand-Father playchess engines room user.

[Father]

I find this entire conversation fascinating, I am perhaps one of the lowest-ranked players in this forum; however, this discussion of a human-designed AI algorithm against a strong player, where the human without being ranked as a globally recognized grandmaster yet is able to defeat the system at what I understand is its highest level is absolutely fascinating. Even more so, when I ponder from my low viewing point that the underlying personalities of the designer and the chess player must truly be a part of how each decides to either design or play the game, much more so than at my level where it is still much more a question of chance or of poorly constructed chess strategy. I hope this conversation continues as it is a chance for people like me to see a little into the minds of these giants. - El Gato

Corrijo la fecha: Agosto 1 de 2021.

Thank you fechavarria52 again: A new good example

[pgn][Event "vs Computer"]
[Site "Chess.com"]
[Date "2021.08.01"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Guest"]
[Black "Maximum"]
[Result "*"]
[TimeControl "-"]

1. d4 Nf6 2. e3 c5 3. f4 e6 4. c3 b6 5. Nf3 Be7 6. Bc4 Bb7 7. O-O O-O 8. Qe2 d5
9. Bd3 Ne4 10. a3 Nd7 11. Re1 a6 12. Nbd2 b5 13. Nb1 c4 14. Bc2 Qc7 15. Kh1 Rfc8
16. Kg1 f6 17. Nfd2 Bc6 18. Nxe4 dxe4 19. Nd2 f5 20. Kh1 Nf6 21. Rg1 h5 22. h4
Bd5 23. g3 a5 24. Rg2 b4 25. Nb1 Ng4 26. Kg1 g6 27. Kh1 Bd6 28. Kg1 Kg7 29. Kh1
Rab8 30. Kg1 Kg8 31. Kh1 Qe7 32. Kg1 Rd8 33. Kh1 Kh7 34. Kg1 Ra8 35. Kh1 Rdc8
36. Kg1 Qc7 37. Kh1 Qc6 38. Kg1 Qb7 39. Kh1 Rab8 40. Kg1 Ra8 41. Kh1 Qe7 42. Kg1
Kg7 43. Kh1 Rab8 44. Kg1 Qd8 45. Kh1 Kh7 46. Kg1 Ra8 47. Kh1 Kg8 48. Kg1 Rc7 49.
Kh1 Rb7 50. Kg1 Kh7 51. Kh1 Kg8 52. Kg1 Kg7 53. Kh1 Rab8 54. Kg1 Qe7 55. Kh1 Rc7
56. Kg1 Rcc8 57. Kh1 Kh6 58. Kg1 Qc7 59. Kh1 Qd8 60. Kg1 Qe7 61. Kh1 Kg7 62. Kg1
Qc7 63. Kh1 Kg8 64. Kg1 Rd8 65. Kh1 Qe7 66. Kg1 Kg7 67. Kh1 Rb6 68. Kg1 Rbb8 69.
Kh1 Qf6 70. Kg1 Qf7 71. Kh1 Qe7 72. Kg1 Rf8 73. Kh1 Rb6 74. Kg1 b3 75. Bd1 a4 *[/pgn]

Here I here I decided to go to rest; I don't know what the end result of the game against Komodo would be. Here I put the padlock to the computer, the stirrup and the chair. ... just a moment ago today July 8, 2021

Elo computer 3.200
My elo: No idea. There is not important for me.
Best regards.
Pablo
Father and Grand-Father playchess engines room user.

[Chessqueen]

I find this entire conversation fascinating, I am perhaps one of the lowest-ranked players in this forum; however, this discussion of a human-designed AI algorithm against a strong player, where the human without being ranked as a globally recognized grandmaster yet is able to defeat the system at what I understand is its highest level is absolutely fascinating. Even more so, when I ponder from my low viewing point that the underlying personalities of the designer and the chess player must truly be a part of how each decides to either design or play the game, much more so than at my level where it is still much more a question of chance or of poorly constructed chess strategy. I hope this conversation continues as it is a chance for people like me to see a little into the minds of these giants. - El Gato

Corrijo la fecha: Agosto 1 de 2021.

Thank you fechavarria52 again: A new good example

[pgn][Event "vs Computer"]
[Site "Chess.com"]
[Date "2021.08.01"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Guest"]
[Black "Maximum"]
[Result "*"]
[TimeControl "-"]

1. d4 Nf6 2. e3 c5 3. f4 e6 4. c3 b6 5. Nf3 Be7 6. Bc4 Bb7 7. O-O O-O 8. Qe2 d5
9. Bd3 Ne4 10. a3 Nd7 11. Re1 a6 12. Nbd2 b5 13. Nb1 c4 14. Bc2 Qc7 15. Kh1 Rfc8
16. Kg1 f6 17. Nfd2 Bc6 18. Nxe4 dxe4 19. Nd2 f5 20. Kh1 Nf6 21. Rg1 h5 22. h4
Bd5 23. g3 a5 24. Rg2 b4 25. Nb1 Ng4 26. Kg1 g6 27. Kh1 Bd6 28. Kg1 Kg7 29. Kh1
Rab8 30. Kg1 Kg8 31. Kh1 Qe7 32. Kg1 Rd8 33. Kh1 Kh7 34. Kg1 Ra8 35. Kh1 Rdc8
36. Kg1 Qc7 37. Kh1 Qc6 38. Kg1 Qb7 39. Kh1 Rab8 40. Kg1 Ra8 41. Kh1 Qe7 42. Kg1
Kg7 43. Kh1 Rab8 44. Kg1 Qd8 45. Kh1 Kh7 46. Kg1 Ra8 47. Kh1 Kg8 48. Kg1 Rc7 49.
Kh1 Rb7 50. Kg1 Kh7 51. Kh1 Kg8 52. Kg1 Kg7 53. Kh1 Rab8 54. Kg1 Qe7 55. Kh1 Rc7
56. Kg1 Rcc8 57. Kh1 Kh6 58. Kg1 Qc7 59. Kh1 Qd8 60. Kg1 Qe7 61. Kh1 Kg7 62. Kg1
Qc7 63. Kh1 Kg8 64. Kg1 Rd8 65. Kh1 Qe7 66. Kg1 Kg7 67. Kh1 Rb6 68. Kg1 Rbb8 69.
Kh1 Qf6 70. Kg1 Qf7 71. Kh1 Qe7 72. Kg1 Rf8 73. Kh1 Rb6 74. Kg1 b3 75. Bd1 a4 *[/pgn]

Here I here I decided to go to rest; I don't know what the end result of the game against Komodo would be. Here I put the padlock to the computer, the stirrup and the chair. ... just a moment ago today July 8, 2021

Elo computer 3.200
My elo: No idea. There is not important for me.
Best regards.
Pablo
Father and Grand-Father playchess engines room user.

What version of Komodo are you playing against, and does Komodo has a setting that can break a pawn chain formation from being created early duruing the opening against humans.

[Father]

I find this entire conversation fascinating, I am perhaps one of the lowest-ranked players in this forum; however, this discussion of a human-designed AI algorithm against a strong player, where the human without being ranked as a globally recognized grandmaster yet is able to defeat the system at what I understand is its highest level is absolutely fascinating. Even more so, when I ponder from my low viewing point that the underlying personalities of the designer and the chess player must truly be a part of how each decides to either design or play the game, much more so than at my level where it is still much more a question of chance or of poorly constructed chess strategy. I hope this conversation continues as it is a chance for people like me to see a little into the minds of these giants. - El Gato

Corrijo la fecha: Agosto 1 de 2021.

Thank you fechavarria52 again: A new good example

[pgn][Event "vs Computer"]
[Site "Chess.com"]
[Date "2021.08.01"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Guest"]
[Black "Maximum"]
[Result "*"]
[TimeControl "-"]

1. d4 Nf6 2. e3 c5 3. f4 e6 4. c3 b6 5. Nf3 Be7 6. Bc4 Bb7 7. O-O O-O 8. Qe2 d5
9. Bd3 Ne4 10. a3 Nd7 11. Re1 a6 12. Nbd2 b5 13. Nb1 c4 14. Bc2 Qc7 15. Kh1 Rfc8
16. Kg1 f6 17. Nfd2 Bc6 18. Nxe4 dxe4 19. Nd2 f5 20. Kh1 Nf6 21. Rg1 h5 22. h4
Bd5 23. g3 a5 24. Rg2 b4 25. Nb1 Ng4 26. Kg1 g6 27. Kh1 Bd6 28. Kg1 Kg7 29. Kh1
Rab8 30. Kg1 Kg8 31. Kh1 Qe7 32. Kg1 Rd8 33. Kh1 Kh7 34. Kg1 Ra8 35. Kh1 Rdc8
36. Kg1 Qc7 37. Kh1 Qc6 38. Kg1 Qb7 39. Kh1 Rab8 40. Kg1 Ra8 41. Kh1 Qe7 42. Kg1
Kg7 43. Kh1 Rab8 44. Kg1 Qd8 45. Kh1 Kh7 46. Kg1 Ra8 47. Kh1 Kg8 48. Kg1 Rc7 49.
Kh1 Rb7 50. Kg1 Kh7 51. Kh1 Kg8 52. Kg1 Kg7 53. Kh1 Rab8 54. Kg1 Qe7 55. Kh1 Rc7
56. Kg1 Rcc8 57. Kh1 Kh6 58. Kg1 Qc7 59. Kh1 Qd8 60. Kg1 Qe7 61. Kh1 Kg7 62. Kg1
Qc7 63. Kh1 Kg8 64. Kg1 Rd8 65. Kh1 Qe7 66. Kg1 Kg7 67. Kh1 Rb6 68. Kg1 Rbb8 69.
Kh1 Qf6 70. Kg1 Qf7 71. Kh1 Qe7 72. Kg1 Rf8 73. Kh1 Rb6 74. Kg1 b3 75. Bd1 a4 *[/pgn]

Here I here I decided to go to rest; I don't know what the end result of the game against Komodo would be. Here I put the padlock to the computer, the stirrup and the chair. ... just a moment ago today July 8, 2021

Elo computer 3.200
My elo: No idea. There is not important for me.
Best regards.
Pablo
Father and Grand-Father playchess engines room user.

What version of Komodo are you playing against, and does Komodo has a setting that can break a pawn chain formation from being created early duruing the opening against humans.

Chessqueen. This is what I Know across Larry post information.
:
“ computer level 25 is just normal Komodo (pre-dragon, maybe close to version 14) running at full strength but only on one core, perhaps with a higher than normal Contempt setting. You are right that we have made special effort to program it to play well against humans and to avoid totally blocked drawn positions (unless we are otherwise losing). I give you credit for being a motivating factor in doing this.”

[Chessqueen]

I find this entire conversation fascinating, I am perhaps one of the lowest-ranked players in this forum; however, this discussion of a human-designed AI algorithm against a strong player, where the human without being ranked as a globally recognized grandmaster yet is able to defeat the system at what I understand is its highest level is absolutely fascinating. Even more so, when I ponder from my low viewing point that the underlying personalities of the designer and the chess player must truly be a part of how each decides to either design or play the game, much more so than at my level where it is still much more a question of chance or of poorly constructed chess strategy. I hope this conversation continues as it is a chance for people like me to see a little into the minds of these giants. - El Gato

Corrijo la fecha: Agosto 1 de 2021.

Thank you fechavarria52 again: A new good example

[pgn][Event "vs Computer"]
[Site "Chess.com"]
[Date "2021.08.01"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Guest"]
[Black "Maximum"]
[Result "*"]
[TimeControl "-"]

1. d4 Nf6 2. e3 c5 3. f4 e6 4. c3 b6 5. Nf3 Be7 6. Bc4 Bb7 7. O-O O-O 8. Qe2 d5
9. Bd3 Ne4 10. a3 Nd7 11. Re1 a6 12. Nbd2 b5 13. Nb1 c4 14. Bc2 Qc7 15. Kh1 Rfc8
16. Kg1 f6 17. Nfd2 Bc6 18. Nxe4 dxe4 19. Nd2 f5 20. Kh1 Nf6 21. Rg1 h5 22. h4
Bd5 23. g3 a5 24. Rg2 b4 25. Nb1 Ng4 26. Kg1 g6 27. Kh1 Bd6 28. Kg1 Kg7 29. Kh1
Rab8 30. Kg1 Kg8 31. Kh1 Qe7 32. Kg1 Rd8 33. Kh1 Kh7 34. Kg1 Ra8 35. Kh1 Rdc8
36. Kg1 Qc7 37. Kh1 Qc6 38. Kg1 Qb7 39. Kh1 Rab8 40. Kg1 Ra8 41. Kh1 Qe7 42. Kg1
Kg7 43. Kh1 Rab8 44. Kg1 Qd8 45. Kh1 Kh7 46. Kg1 Ra8 47. Kh1 Kg8 48. Kg1 Rc7 49.
Kh1 Rb7 50. Kg1 Kh7 51. Kh1 Kg8 52. Kg1 Kg7 53. Kh1 Rab8 54. Kg1 Qe7 55. Kh1 Rc7
56. Kg1 Rcc8 57. Kh1 Kh6 58. Kg1 Qc7 59. Kh1 Qd8 60. Kg1 Qe7 61. Kh1 Kg7 62. Kg1
Qc7 63. Kh1 Kg8 64. Kg1 Rd8 65. Kh1 Qe7 66. Kg1 Kg7 67. Kh1 Rb6 68. Kg1 Rbb8 69.
Kh1 Qf6 70. Kg1 Qf7 71. Kh1 Qe7 72. Kg1 Rf8 73. Kh1 Rb6 74. Kg1 b3 75. Bd1 a4 *[/pgn]

Here I here I decided to go to rest; I don't know what the end result of the game against Komodo would be. Here I put the padlock to the computer, the stirrup and the chair. ... just a moment ago today July 8, 2021

Elo computer 3.200
My elo: No idea. There is not important for me.
Best regards.
Pablo
Father and Grand-Father playchess engines room user.

What version of Komodo are you playing against, and does Komodo has a setting that can break a pawn chain formation from being created early duruing the opening against humans.

Chessqueen. This is what I Know across Larry post information.
:
“ computer level 25 is just normal Komodo (pre-dragon, maybe close to version 14) running at full strength but only on one core, perhaps with a higher than normal Contempt setting. You are right that we have made special effort to program it to play well against humans and to avoid totally blocked drawn positions (unless we are otherwise losing). I give you credit for being a motivating factor in doing this.”

So I was thinking why don't we use that when human are playing to block the position with pawns chain to get a draw the engine automatically win the game.

[Father]

I find this entire conversation fascinating, I am perhaps one of the lowest-ranked players in this forum; however, this discussion of a human-designed AI algorithm against a strong player, where the human without being ranked as a globally recognized grandmaster yet is able to defeat the system at what I understand is its highest level is absolutely fascinating. Even more so, when I ponder from my low viewing point that the underlying personalities of the designer and the chess player must truly be a part of how each decides to either design or play the game, much more so than at my level where it is still much more a question of chance or of poorly constructed chess strategy. I hope this conversation continues as it is a chance for people like me to see a little into the minds of these giants. - El Gato

Corrijo la fecha: Agosto 1 de 2021.

Thank you fechavarria52 again: A new good example

[pgn][Event "vs Computer"]
[Site "Chess.com"]
[Date "2021.08.01"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Guest"]
[Black "Maximum"]
[Result "*"]
[TimeControl "-"]

1. d4 Nf6 2. e3 c5 3. f4 e6 4. c3 b6 5. Nf3 Be7 6. Bc4 Bb7 7. O-O O-O 8. Qe2 d5
9. Bd3 Ne4 10. a3 Nd7 11. Re1 a6 12. Nbd2 b5 13. Nb1 c4 14. Bc2 Qc7 15. Kh1 Rfc8
16. Kg1 f6 17. Nfd2 Bc6 18. Nxe4 dxe4 19. Nd2 f5 20. Kh1 Nf6 21. Rg1 h5 22. h4
Bd5 23. g3 a5 24. Rg2 b4 25. Nb1 Ng4 26. Kg1 g6 27. Kh1 Bd6 28. Kg1 Kg7 29. Kh1
Rab8 30. Kg1 Kg8 31. Kh1 Qe7 32. Kg1 Rd8 33. Kh1 Kh7 34. Kg1 Ra8 35. Kh1 Rdc8
36. Kg1 Qc7 37. Kh1 Qc6 38. Kg1 Qb7 39. Kh1 Rab8 40. Kg1 Ra8 41. Kh1 Qe7 42. Kg1
Kg7 43. Kh1 Rab8 44. Kg1 Qd8 45. Kh1 Kh7 46. Kg1 Ra8 47. Kh1 Kg8 48. Kg1 Rc7 49.
Kh1 Rb7 50. Kg1 Kh7 51. Kh1 Kg8 52. Kg1 Kg7 53. Kh1 Rab8 54. Kg1 Qe7 55. Kh1 Rc7
56. Kg1 Rcc8 57. Kh1 Kh6 58. Kg1 Qc7 59. Kh1 Qd8 60. Kg1 Qe7 61. Kh1 Kg7 62. Kg1
Qc7 63. Kh1 Kg8 64. Kg1 Rd8 65. Kh1 Qe7 66. Kg1 Kg7 67. Kh1 Rb6 68. Kg1 Rbb8 69.
Kh1 Qf6 70. Kg1 Qf7 71. Kh1 Qe7 72. Kg1 Rf8 73. Kh1 Rb6 74. Kg1 b3 75. Bd1 a4 *[/pgn]

Here I here I decided to go to rest; I don't know what the end result of the game against Komodo would be. Here I put the padlock to the computer, the stirrup and the chair. ... just a moment ago today July 8, 2021

Elo computer 3.200
My elo: No idea. There is not important for me.
Best regards.
Pablo
Father and Grand-Father playchess engines room user.

What version of Komodo are you playing against, and does Komodo has a setting that can break a pawn chain formation from being created early duruing the opening against humans.

Chessqueen. This is what I Know across Larry post information.
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“ computer level 25 is just normal Komodo (pre-dragon, maybe close to version 14) running at full strength but only on one core, perhaps with a higher than normal Contempt setting. You are right that we have made special effort to program it to play well against humans and to avoid totally blocked drawn positions (unless we are otherwise losing). I give you credit for being a motivating factor in doing this.”

So I was thinking why don't we use that when human are playing to block the position with pawns chain to get a draw the engine automatically win the game.

Chessqueen. Undoubtedly "the deniers" and all those who silence the evidence will want to change the rules of chess rather than accept that untitled chess players, dispute and occupy in some cases, the best positions of the banguard in the battle man against machine. It is enough to give the example of some club rules that he understands as foul play, the fact that humans win elo through the victories against the best computers. In this way the elites are protected and the computers are protected, silencing the anti-machine players. Precisely for this reason, the expression "anti-chess" was born in the sense of its meaning similar to that of "anti soccer," which is a completely valid and legitimate strategy.