Milos wrote: ↑Sun May 30, 2021 4:56 am
Leto wrote: ↑Sun May 30, 2021 2:56 am
Uri Blass wrote: ↑Sun May 30, 2021 12:45 am
Leto wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 4:19 pm
In the July ratings list I will be around 2350 at ICCF. Any top correspondence player would have an easy time against any unassisted engine with regular correspondence time controls (10 moves in 40 days). The problem with unassisted engines is flawed pruning methods, sometimes they prune out the key moves or don't see the danger until it's too late. I've seen it so many times in my correspondence games.
I wonder how many positions from your corresepondence games you can give when latest stockfish does a losing mistakes at 1 hour per move.
I will be surprised if you find many positions.
Couldn't we just look at the games Stockfish loses on TCEC. I know TCEC is played at a faster time control but the hardware is quite formidable, certainly better than mine.
You will never be able to drive SF to a position even remotely similar (disadvantages) as in TCEC. If you really believe so, you are highly delusional.
Moreover, why would you limit SF to 1h per move on some mediocre hardware. You yourself mentioned 10 moves in 40 days (usually is 50, but lets not get into details). That is 1000 times longer TC than in TCEC. Are you even aware what three orders of magnitude of extra thinking time actually mean??? That's 10 doublings in time. Even if one doubling is only 20 Elo due to diminishing returns, that's still 200 Elo extra. Do you have any idea how large difference in strength is that on such a high level of play?
I agree for TCEC positions as i underlined above ( positions are made for possible wins ).
About time control, although i know some players use their machine for a long time in a good hardware, many others don't and play also several games in the same time ( sometimes too much hence losses by what we could call "CC zeitnot"
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You will never beleive me but, for what i remember, i did not use often more than say 10h machine for decide a move and if i use an automatical tool, it is just for control and take about 3 h max ( i am perhaps very special in ICCF world I Guess ? )
In this conditions, i think the engine will beat easely all CC players as me in a match because he will have hundreds of Elo more ( one housand if you consider i use now a normal laptop with an AMD 4600H ).....
I don't know because nobody tried it seem ?
I could play a game but, as i said, a new tournament will start and i could not give many time, perhaps ridiculous time per move ( one hour max ??? )
If many people here would be curious if i would be ridiculous, i can try a game if you want because i don't care to lose ?