Commercial Release of Ethereal 13.00 (NNUE) for AVX2 Systems

[AlexChess]

Ethereal is stronger then stockfish 13/14 without NNUE.

All the top engines today must have NNUE and tablebases, or they are out of games

[CMCanavessi]

Hi CMCanavessi,

have you solved all the crashes experienced using Ethereal 13.00?

Regards, AlexChess

Nope. Andrew says there's a problem with Ethereal itself, so I'm waiting for a fixed release.

[AndrewGrant]

Hi CMCanavessi,

have you solved all the crashes experienced using Ethereal 13.00?

Regards, AlexChess

Nope. Andrew says there's a problem with Ethereal itself, so I'm waiting for a fixed release.

? We resolved your pondering issue if I recall. https://github.com/AndyGrant/Ethereal/c ... 41943eedc3 and then I sent you updated binaries and you confirmed them to be working? Did I miss a posting from you? If so do you have any more UCI logs from these pondering games? They seem to be the only source of issues ever.

If that did not fix it, I will try again. I just need to know, as I never see the problem myself.

1. Alexchess is trolling
2. Mcclane is trolling him back I think, or maybe not?

[CMCanavessi]

Hi CMCanavessi,

have you solved all the crashes experienced using Ethereal 13.00?

Regards, AlexChess

Nope. Andrew says there's a problem with Ethereal itself, so I'm waiting for a fixed release.

? We resolved your pondering issue if I recall. https://github.com/AndyGrant/Ethereal/c ... 41943eedc3 and then I sent you updated binaries and you confirmed them to be working? Did I miss a posting from you? If so do you have any more UCI logs from these pondering games? They seem to be the only source of issues ever.

1. Alexchess is trolling
2. Mcclane is trolling him back I think, or maybe not?

Wait, I'm getting confused with Minic, but I'm sure Ethereal is still having problems (maybe due to gui). Let me re-check that, will come back to you later (with logs).

[AndrewGrant]

Hi CMCanavessi,

have you solved all the crashes experienced using Ethereal 13.00?

Regards, AlexChess

Nope. Andrew says there's a problem with Ethereal itself, so I'm waiting for a fixed release.

? We resolved your pondering issue if I recall. https://github.com/AndyGrant/Ethereal/c ... 41943eedc3 and then I sent you updated binaries and you confirmed them to be working? Did I miss a posting from you? If so do you have any more UCI logs from these pondering games? They seem to be the only source of issues ever.

1. Alexchess is trolling
2. Mcclane is trolling him back I think, or maybe not?

Wait, I'm getting confused with Minic, but I'm sure Ethereal is still having problems (maybe due to gui). Let me re-check that, will come back to you later (with logs).

Its possible my solution was not exact enough to address all potential cases. So if you say it has problems with the current versions, then it has problems, no hand-waving about it. Ill tinker with it and think about it while I await your reply.

[CMCanavessi]

Its possible my solution was not exact enough to address all potential cases. So if you say it has problems with the current versions, then it has problems, no hand-waving about it. Ill tinker with it and think about it while I await your reply.

It's live now on my twitch channel if you wanna look. So far so good. I suspect the GUI is having problems with FRC (specially with castling). I just reported several bugs about it.

[Graham Banks]

Has anybody had success using Ethereal 13.00 in the Shredder GUI?

[supersharp77]

Has anybody had success using Ethereal 13.00 in the Shredder GUI?

Time issues In Fritz Gui (Like almost all the other Versions) What problems is it having in the Shredder GUI? I don't recall time losses in Banksia or Chess OK.....Thx AR

[AndrewGrant]

Has anybody had success using Ethereal 13.00 in the Shredder GUI?

Time issues In Fritz Gui (Like almost all the other Versions) What problems is it having in the Shredder GUI? I don't recall time losses in Banksia or Chess OK.....Thx AR

Increase Move Overhead if the GUI is laggy, so that one is solved already.

[Graham Banks]

Has anybody had success using Ethereal 13.00 in the Shredder GUI?

Time issues In Fritz Gui (Like almost all the other Versions) What problems is it having in the Shredder GUI? I don't recall time losses in Banksia or Chess OK.....Thx AR

No problems in ChessGUI, but is losing all of its games under Shredder.
Examples below. It's lost 10 games straight.

[pgn][Event "40 Moves in 16 min"]
[Site "Revenge Gauntlet, GRAHAM-Z87"]
[Date "2021.07.25"]
[Round "1.3"]
[White "Revenge 1.0 64-bit"]
[Black "Ethereal 13.00 64-bit"]
[ECO "E04"]
[Result "1-0"]

1. d4 {book 0s} d5 {book 0s} 2. Nf3 {book 0s} e6 {book 0s}
3. g3 {book 0s} Nf6 {book 0s} 4. c4 {book 0s} dxc4 {book
0s} 5. Bg2 {book 0s} Bb4+ {book 0s} 6. Bd2 {book 0s} a5
{book 0s} 7. Qc2 {book 0s} Bxd2+ {book 0s} 8. Qxd2 {book
0s} c6 {book 0s} 9. a4 {book 0s} Ne4 {-0.20/23 55s} 10. Qf4
{+0.57/31 34s} Qb6 {-0.20/20 17s (Nd6)} 11. Ne5 {+0.29/27
26s (Qc1)} Nd6 {-0.20/21 23s (Qb4+)} 12. O-O {+0.89/32 29s
(Qc1)} Qb4 {-0.20/23 41s (f6)} 13. Na3 {+1.08/32 40s (Qc1)}
O-O {-0.20/23 26s (f6)} 14. Rfc1 {+1.49/29 32s (g4)} f6
{+0.20/22 1:01m} 15. Nexc4 {+1.22/29 23s} Nxc4 {+0.20/24
17s (Rd8)} 16. Nxc4 {+1.90/30 27s (Rxc4)} e5 {+0.20/28 46s}
17. dxe5 {+1.95/35 1:12m} Be6 {+0.20/28 44s} 18. Nd6
{+1.95/36 28s} Qxf4 {+0.20/31 18s (Qb6)} 19. gxf4 {+3.26/32
24s} fxe5 {+0.20/33 20s} 20. fxe5 {+3.31/32 48s} g6
{+0.20/32 18s (Ra7)} 21. Nxb7 {+5.09/28 26s} Ra7 {+0.20/33
19s} 22. Nc5 {+5.11/30 47s} Bf5 {+0.20/32 18s (Bg4)}
23. Ra3 {+5.47/27 24s (Nb3)} Nd7 {+0.48/28 3:09m} 24. Re3
{+5.52/27 21s (Bxc6)} Nxc5 {+0.40/27 23s (Rb8)} 25. Rxc5
{+5.69/30 30s} Rc8 {+0.20/30 1:11m (Kg7)} 26. b3 {+6.19/28
25s (Bxc6)} Kg7 {+0.20/31 9s (Be6)} 27. Bh3 {+6.42/31 1:27m
(e6)} Bxh3 {+0.20/34 11s} 28. Rxh3 {+6.27/28 18s} Ra6
{+0.20/34 25s (Rf8)} 29. Kg2 {+6.47/29 19s (e6)} Rca8
{+0.20/35 8s (Rb8)} 30. Rd3 {+6.99/27 21s (Rhc3)} R8a7
{+0.20/32 11s (Rb8)} 31. f4 {+7.54/31 58s (e6)} Rf7
{+0.20/32 9s (Rb7)} 32. e3 {+7.68/31 53s (Kh1)} Re7
{+0.20/29 10s (Rb7)} 33. Kf3 {+7.82/31 44s (f5)} Rb7
{+0.20/33 53s (Kf7)} 34. h4 {+7.89/29 14s (Rdc3)} Kf8
{+0.20/32 7s (Kf7)} 35. Rdc3 {+8.14/27 13s (e6)} Rbb6
{+0.20/36 9s} 36. Kg4 {+8.28/27 9s (Rd3)} Kf7 {+0.20/31 7s
(Rb7)} 37. Kg5 {+8.57/25 7s (f5)} Kg7 {+3.48/27 19s (Ra7)}
38. h5 {+8.87/28 19s (Rd3)} h6+ {+5.81/27 23s (Kf7)}
39. Kg4 {+9.40/25 10s} Rb4 {+6.31/28 25s (gxh5+)} 40. Rxc6
{+11.02/28 11s (hxg6)} 1-0[/pgn]

[pgn][Event "40 Moves in 16 min"]
[Site "Revenge Gauntlet, GRAHAM-Z87"]
[Date "2021.07.25"]
[Round "2.3"]
[White "Ethereal 13.00 64-bit"]
[Black "Revenge 1.0 64-bit"]
[ECO "B15"]
[Result "0-1"]

1. e4 {book 0s} c6 {book 0s} 2. Nc3 {book 0s} d5 {book 0s}
3. d4 {book 0s} dxe4 {book 0s} 4. Nxe4 {book 0s} Nf6 {book
0s} 5. Nxf6+ {book 0s} exf6 {book 0s} 6. c3 {book 0s} Bd6
{book 0s} 7. Bd3 {book 0s} O-O {book 0s} 8. Qc2 {book 0s}
h6 {book 0s} 9. Kf1 {-0.20/19 55s} c5 {-0.89/29 36s (Re8)}
10. dxc5 {+0.20/30 24s} Bxc5 {-0.88/30 52s (Bc7)} 11. Bf4
{+0.20/25 1:40m} Qb6 {-0.74/28 1:42m (Kh8)} 12. Rd1
{+0.20/28 18s (Nf3)} a5 {-1.08/27 23s (f5)} 13. b4
{+0.10/23 3:20m (Nf3)} axb4 {-4.00/28 47s (Be7)} 14. cxb4
{-0.20/25 14s} Qxb4 {-4.15/28 59s (Bxb4)} 15. Ne2 {-0.20/25
18s (Bxb8)} Nc6 {-4.45/29 30s (Bg4)} 16. Rb1 {-0.20/26 14s
(Bc4)} Qa3 {-4.30/26 20s} 17. Rb3 {-0.20/29 12s (Kg1)} Qxa2
{-6.04/27 28s} 18. Rb2 {-2.64/28 1:54m (Qxa2)} Qa1+
{-6.59/27 1:11m (Qa7)} 19. Rb1 {-1.76/30 2:00m} Qa7
{-6.31/30 17s (Qa3)} 20. Be4 {-3.76/26 41s (h3)} Re8
{-6.90/27 25s (Bxf2)} 21. Bf3 {-4.95/26 33s (Ng3)} Bxf2
{-7.08/27 36s} 22. h3 {-5.43/27 22s (h4)} Be3 {-7.20/27
17s} 23. Rd1 {-6.04/29 20s} Be6 {-7.61/27 16s (Bxf4)} 0-1[/pgn]

[pgn][Event "40 Moves in 16 min"]
[Site "Revenge Gauntlet, GRAHAM-Z87"]
[Date "2021.07.26"]
[Round "3.3"]
[White "Revenge 1.0 64-bit"]
[Black "Ethereal 13.00 64-bit"]
[ECO "A33"]
[Result "1-0"]

1. c4 {book 0s} c5 {book 0s} 2. Nf3 {book 0s} Nc6 {book 0s}
3. d4 {book 0s} cxd4 {book 0s} 4. Nxd4 {book 0s} Nf6 {book
0s} 5. Nc3 {book 0s} e6 {book 0s} 6. a3 {book 0s} Bc5 {book
0s} 7. Nb3 {book 0s} Bb6 {book 0s} 8. e4 {book 0s} O-O
{book 0s} 9. Be2 {+0.06/26 36s} a5 {+0.20/22 26s (d6)}
10. c5 {+0.43/28 44s} a4 {+0.20/26 38s (Bc7)} 11. cxb6
{+0.60/29 23s} axb3 {+0.20/28 22s} 12. Bf4 {+0.60/31 27s
(Qxb3)} e5 {+0.20/28 22s (Qxb6)} 13. Be3 {+1.14/29 50s} Ne8
{+0.20/29 34s (d6)} 14. Qxb3 {+2.94/29 22s (Bb5)} Nd4
{+0.20/32 28s (d6)} 15. Bxd4 {+3.48/34 28s} exd4 {+0.20/34
1:00m} 16. Nd5 {+3.56/33 1:24m} Nf6 {+0.20/33 17s} 17. O-O
{+3.56/34 25s (Nc7)} Nxd5 {+0.20/30 25s} 18. exd5 {+3.56/33
33s} Qf6 {+0.20/32 28s (Re8)} 19. Rfc1 {+4.29/28 29s (Bd3)}
Qd6 {+0.20/31 25s (Re8)} 20. Rc7 {+5.39/30 55s (Bd3)} g6
{+0.20/32 26s (Qe5)} 21. Rd1 {+6.36/29 1:04m (Bd3)} Kg7
{+0.20/28 1:28m (Qe5)} 22. Rxd4 {+6.73/29 23s (g3)} Qf6
{+3.56/29 1:41m (Re8)} 23. Qb4 {+6.96/26 21s (Rdc4)} d6
{+3.70/31 1:07m} 24. h3 {+7.12/28 36s (Rf4)} h5 {+3.62/27
1:01m} 25. a4 {+7.45/27 25s (Rf4)} Qe5 {+3.29/27 1:15m
(Rb8)} 26. Re4 {+7.71/24 18s} Qxd5 {+4.44/27 21s (Qg5)}
27. Bf3 {+7.81/27 24s} Be6 {+4.94/27 23s (Qg5)} 28. Re3
{+8.22/28 16s} Qa2 {+5.24/29 37s} 29. b3 {+8.09/28 17s
(Ra3)} Qa1+ {+5.83/25 31s (Bxb3)} 30. Re1 {+9.87/27 28s
(Kh2)} 1-0[/pgn]