39 games is not enough to draw conclusions. 300 games would be way better.
Commercial Release of Ethereal 13.00 (NNUE) for AVX2 Systems
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Re: Commercial Release of Ethereal 13.00 (NNUE) for AVX2 Systems
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Re: Commercial Release of Ethereal 13.00 (NNUE) for AVX2 Systems
Yes I know, still updating results (Ethereal 13.00 github crashes very often on my hardware) but they are already consistents with all main rating lists. Commercial 70 Elo over Igel 3.0.5 NNUE, standard github something weaker than it, and 200-300 ELO weaker than top list engines.
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Re: Commercial Release of Ethereal 13.00 (NNUE) for AVX2 Systems
Can someone conduct a test of Ethereal 13 NNUE against SF Classical. The last Classical version before NNUE was added into code.
Set Classical contempt at zero.
Some suggest they're probably even in strength if not close.
https://abrok.eu/stockfish/?page=14
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Set Classical contempt at zero.
Some suggest they're probably even in strength if not close.
https://abrok.eu/stockfish/?page=14
Bench: 4746616
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I'm interested also on a test Ethereal 13.00 NNUE commercial vs Ethereal 13.00 standard (github) , it hasn't still conducted by the main rating lists...Nordlandia wrote: ↑Thu Jun 24, 2021 6:28 pm Can someone conduct a test of Ethereal 13 NNUE against SF Classical. The last Classical version before NNUE was added into code.
Set Classical contempt at zero.
Some suggest they're probably even in strength if not close.
https://abrok.eu/stockfish/?page=14
Bench: 4746616
http://www.cegt.net/40_40%20Rating%20Li ... liste.html
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Re: Commercial Release of Ethereal 13.00 (NNUE) for AVX2 Systems
What is the best chess engines ranking method?
TCEC https://tcec-chess.com/ (that is considered the most reliable source) runs engines at a monstrous speed (up-to 30x as Silicon M1) but the results are consistent with my very limited hardware and also, like me, they do not play thousands of games with the same engine but they test a very wide variety of engines also private and derivatives
Regards, AlexChess
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TCEC https://tcec-chess.com/ (that is considered the most reliable source) runs engines at a monstrous speed (up-to 30x as Silicon M1) but the results are consistent with my very limited hardware and also, like me, they do not play thousands of games with the same engine but they test a very wide variety of engines also private and derivatives
Regards, AlexChess
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As it should be.AlexChess wrote: ↑Sun Jun 27, 2021 12:34 pm https://tcec-chess.com/[/b] (that is considered the most reliable source) runs engines at a monstrous speed (up-to 30x as Silicon M1) but the results are consistent with my very limited hardware....
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Ethereal 13.00 NNUE is weaker than Slowchess 2.6, which is weaker than Stockfish 10.Nordlandia wrote: ↑Thu Jun 24, 2021 6:28 pm Can someone conduct a test of Ethereal 13 NNUE against SF Classical. The last Classical version before NNUE was added into code.
Set Classical contempt at zero.
Some suggest they're probably even in strength if not close.
https://abrok.eu/stockfish/?page=14
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ie: Buyer Beware (?)Madeleine Birchfield wrote: ↑Sun Jun 27, 2021 5:25 pmEthereal 13.00 NNUE is weaker than Slowchess 2.6, which is weaker than Stockfish 10.Nordlandia wrote: ↑Thu Jun 24, 2021 6:28 pm Can someone conduct a test of Ethereal 13 NNUE against SF Classical. The last Classical version before NNUE was added into code.
Set Classical contempt at zero.
Some suggest they're probably even in strength if not close.
https://abrok.eu/stockfish/?page=14
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Elo is NOT everything, if that was the case people could just download Stockfisk 13Cornfed wrote: ↑Sun Jun 27, 2021 6:51 pmie: Buyer Beware (?)Madeleine Birchfield wrote: ↑Sun Jun 27, 2021 5:25 pmEthereal 13.00 NNUE is weaker than Slowchess 2.6, which is weaker than Stockfish 10.Nordlandia wrote: ↑Thu Jun 24, 2021 6:28 pm Can someone conduct a test of Ethereal 13 NNUE against SF Classical. The last Classical version before NNUE was added into code.
Set Classical contempt at zero.
Some suggest they're probably even in strength if not close.
https://abrok.eu/stockfish/?page=14
Bench: 4746616
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Re: Commercial Release of Ethereal 13.00 (NNUE) for AVX2 Systems
According to JCER, Ethereal 13:00 (no NNUE) is a little better than SlowChess 2.6. Could someone test 13:00 NNUE against 13:00 no NNUE and 12.75 NNUE? (suggestion: Mikeb's nn-c4c3... is already very solid https://tests.stockfishchess.org/api/nn ... 60d95.nnue , and I bet that 12.75 + official SF https://tests.stockfishchess.org/api/nn ... a22c3.nnue is stronger than 13:00 commercial...Chessqueen wrote: ↑Sun Jun 27, 2021 7:20 pmElo is NOT everything, if that was the case people could just download Stockfisk 13Cornfed wrote: ↑Sun Jun 27, 2021 6:51 pmie: Buyer Beware (?)Madeleine Birchfield wrote: ↑Sun Jun 27, 2021 5:25 pmEthereal 13.00 NNUE is weaker than Slowchess 2.6, which is weaker than Stockfish 10.Nordlandia wrote: ↑Thu Jun 24, 2021 6:28 pm Can someone conduct a test of Ethereal 13 NNUE against SF Classical. The last Classical version before NNUE was added into code.
Set Classical contempt at zero.
Some suggest they're probably even in strength if not close.
https://abrok.eu/stockfish/?page=14
Bench: 4746616
(my match with it against 13:00 standard will follow )
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