Javier Ros wrote: ↑Mon Jun 14, 2021 6:45 pm
Stockfish's progress is impressive, especially after nnue.
However, the fluctuations in the evaluation are still there.
For example at initial position with one thread, discarding the first two minutes, we have with version Stockfish_13_win_x64_bmi2 with 1 Gb RAM in a i7 7700HQ after 30 minutes variations from +0.14 to +0.42 and alternating best moves between d4, c4 and e4, final best move e4 +0.21 ply 44/54-
and version Stockfish_13_win_x64_avx2 with 1 Gb RAM in a Ryzen 7 2700x after 30 minutes variations from +0.14 to +0.34 and alternating best moves between e4, d4 and c4, final best move c4 +0.26 ply 43/59
I wonder what is the origin of these unpleasant fluctuations and if there is a solution.
On the other hand, I don't understand the discrepancy between the results of the bmi2 and avx versions.
i7 7700HQ
FEN: rnbqkbnr/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/RNBQKBNR w KQkq - 0 1
Stockfish_13_win_x64_bmi2:
NNUE evaluation using nn-62ef826d1a6d.nnue enabled
33/42 02:01 112.723.623 927.033 +0,23 1.d2-d4 Ng8-f6 2.c2-c4 e7-e6 3.Ng1-f3 d7-d5 4.Nb1-c3 Bf8-e7 5.g2-g3 O-O 6.Bf1-g2 d5xc4 7.Qd1-a4 c7-c6 8.Qa4xc4 b7-b5 9.Qc4-b3 a7-a5 10.O-O Bc8-b7 11.Bc1-g5 Nb8-d7 12.Nf3-e5 a5-a4 13.Qb3-c2 Nd7xe5 14.d4xe5 Nf6-d7 15.Bg5xe7 Qd8xe7 16.f2-f4 Qe7-c5+ 17.Rf1-f2 b5-b4
34/46+ 02:40 148.577.172 925.662 +0,31 1.c2-c4
34/46- 02:58 164.495.839 921.122 +0,14 1.c2-c4 e7-e5
34/46+ 04:09 228.962.917 919.356 +0,26 1.e2-e4
34/46 04:30 248.303.538 919.019 +0,25 1.e2-e4 e7-e6 2.d2-d4 d7-d5 3.Nb1-c3 Ng8-f6 4.e4-e5 Nf6-d7 5.Nc3-e2 c7-c5 6.c2-c3 Qd8-b6 7.Ng1-f3 Nb8-c6 8.g2-g3 c5xd4 9.c3xd4 Bf8-b4+ 10.Bc1-d2 a7-a5 11.Bf1-h3 Bb4xd2+ 12.Qd1xd2 Qb6-b4 13.Qd2xb4 a5xb4 14.Ke1-d2 Nd7-b6 15.b2-b3 Ke8-e7 16.Rh1-c1 Bc8-d7 17.Ne2-f4
35/43+ 04:48 264.801.996 918.080 +0,34 1.e2-e4
35/43+ 04:52 268.629.346 918.193 +0,42 1.e2-e4
35/43- 05:03 278.267.739 916.632 +0,17 1.e2-e4 e7-e6
35/46+ 05:36 305.839.963 909.550 +0,36 1.e2-e4
35/46 05:40 309.541.736 909.820 +0,37 1.e2-e4 e7-e6 2.d2-d4 d7-d5 3.Nb1-c3 Ng8-f6 4.Bc1-g5 Bf8-e7 5.e4-e5 Nf6-d7 6.Bg5xe7 Qd8xe7 7.Qd1-d2 O-O 8.f2-f4 c7-c5 9.Ng1-f3 Nb8-c6 10.O-O-O a7-a6 11.g2-g4 b7-b5 12.h2-h4 f7-f6 13.e5xf6 Nd7xf6 14.d4xc5 Qe7xc5 15.Bf1-d3 Nf6xg4 16.Rh1-g1 Ng4-f2 17.Bd3xh7+ Kg8xh7 18.Rd1-f1
36/44- 06:02 329.768.348 910.212 +0,29 1.e2-e4 e7-e6
36/44- 06:30 355.266.460 910.750 +0,21 1.e2-e4 e7-e5
36/44+ 06:41 365.553.131 910.908 +0,29 1.e2-e4
36/44 06:46 370.216.738 910.798 +0,26 1.e2-e4 e7-e5 2.Ng1-f3 Nb8-c6 3.Bf1-b5 a7-a6 4.Bb5-a4 Ng8-f6 5.O-O Nf6xe4 6.d2-d4 b7-b5 7.Ba4-b3 d7-d5 8.d4xe5 Bc8-e6 9.c2-c3 Bf8-c5 10.Qd1-d3 O-O 11.Bc1-e3 Bc5xe3 12.Qd3xe3 Nc6-e7 13.Bb3-c2 Be6-f5 14.Nb1-d2 Ne4xd2 15.Qe3xd2 Bf5xc2 16.Qd2xc2 h7-h6 17.a2-a4 c7-c5 18.a4xb5 a6xb5 19.Ra1xa8
37/48+ 07:07 389.903.701 911.222 +0,34 1.e2-e4
37/48- 07:28 408.460.257 911.711 +0,18 1.e2-e4 e7-e5
37/48+ 07:48 427.277.778 911.950 +0,30 1.e2-e4
37/48 07:58 436.138.449 912.173 +0,32 1.e2-e4 e7-e5 2.Ng1-f3 Nb8-c6 3.Bf1-b5 Ng8-f6 4.O-O Nf6xe4 5.Rf1-e1 Ne4-d6 6.Nf3xe5 Bf8-e7 7.Bb5-f1 Nc6xe5 8.Re1xe5 O-O 9.d2-d4 Be7-f6 10.Re5-e1 Rf8-e8 11.Bc1-f4 Re8xe1 12.Qd1xe1 Nd6-e8 13.c2-c3 a7-a5 14.Nb1-d2 d7-d5 15.Bf1-d3 a5-a4 16.Nd2-f3 a4-a3 17.b2-b4 Ne8-d6 18.Qe1-e2 Bc8-f5 19.Bd3xf5 Nd6xf5 20.Qe2-b5 b7-b6
38/44- 09:17 507.342.185 910.604 +0,24 1.e2-e4 e7-e5
38/45+ 09:30 519.454.524 910.142 +0,32 1.e2-e4
38/45 09:33 521.726.724 910.236 +0,26 1.e2-e4 e7-e5 2.Ng1-f3 Nb8-c6 3.Bf1-b5 Ng8-f6 4.O-O Nf6xe4 5.Rf1-e1 Ne4-d6 6.Nf3xe5 Bf8-e7 7.Bb5-f1 Nc6xe5 8.Re1xe5 O-O 9.d2-d4 Be7-f6 10.Re5-e1 Rf8-e8 11.Bc1-f4 Re8xe1 12.Qd1xe1 Nd6-e8 13.Bf1-d3 Bf6xd4 14.Bd3xh7+ Kg8xh7 15.Qe1-e4+ Kh7-g8 16.Qe4xd4 d7-d5 17.Nb1-d2 c7-c6 18.c2-c4 Ne8-f6 19.h2-h3 Bc8-f5 20.g2-g4
39/48- 10:57 597.679.603 908.516 +0,18 1.e2-e4 c7-c5
39/48+ 11:17 614.270.423 907.292 +0,26 1.e2-e4
39/48 11:39 634.154.420 906.100 +0,31 1.e2-e4 e7-e5 2.Ng1-f3 Nb8-c6 3.Bf1-b5 Ng8-f6 4.O-O Nf6xe4 5.Rf1-e1 Ne4-d6 6.Nf3xe5 Bf8-e7 7.Bb5-f1 Nc6xe5 8.Re1xe5 O-O 9.d2-d4 Be7-f6 10.Re5-e1 Rf8-e8 11.Bc1-f4 Re8xe1 12.Qd1xe1 Nd6-e8 13.c2-c3 a7-a5 14.Nb1-d2 d7-d5 15.Bf1-d3 a5-a4 16.Qe1-e3 Qd8-e7 17.Qe3-g3 Ne8-d6 18.a2-a3 Bc8-d7 19.Bf4xd6 Qe7xd6 20.Qg3xd6 c7xd6
40/47 13:38 739.243.466 903.525 +0,25 1.e2-e4 e7-e5 2.Ng1-f3 Nb8-c6 3.Bf1-b5 Ng8-f6 4.O-O Nf6xe4 5.Rf1-e1 Ne4-d6 6.Nf3xe5 Bf8-e7 7.Bb5-f1 Nc6xe5 8.Re1xe5 O-O 9.d2-d4 Be7-f6 10.Re5-e1 Rf8-e8 11.Bc1-f4 Re8xe1 12.Qd1xe1 Nd6-e8 13.c2-c3 a7-a5 14.a2-a4 d7-d6 15.Nb1-d2 Bc8-e6 16.h2-h3 g7-g6 17.Qe1-e4 c7-c6 18.Qe4-e3 Bf6-e7 19.c3-c4 Ne8-g7 20.Bf1-d3 Ng7-f5 21.Bd3xf5 Be6xf5 22.d4-d5
41/53- 15:28 838.052.070 902.356 +0,17 1.e2-e4 e7-e5
41/53+ 15:58 864.887.871 902.063 +0,25 1.e2-e4
41/53 16:05 870.885.354 902.053 +0,25 1.e2-e4 e7-e5 2.Ng1-f3 Nb8-c6 3.Bf1-b5 Ng8-f6 4.O-O Nf6xe4 5.Rf1-e1 Ne4-d6 6.Nf3xe5 Bf8-e7 7.Bb5-f1 Nc6xe5 8.Re1xe5 O-O 9.d2-d4 Be7-f6 10.Re5-e1 Rf8-e8 11.Bc1-f4 Re8xe1 12.Qd1xe1 Nd6-e8 13.c2-c3 d7-d5 14.a2-a4 Ne8-d6 15.Nb1-d2 a7-a5 16.Bf1-d3 Bc8-f5 17.Qe1-e3 Bf5xd3 18.Qe3xd3 Qd8-d7 19.g2-g3 Ra8-e8 20.Bf4xd6 Qd7xd6 21.Kg1-g2 Qd6-d7 22.Nd2-f3 c7-c6 23.h2-h3
42/51- 18:39 1.009.321.730 901.979 +0,17 1.e2-e4 e7-e5
42/51+ 19:19 1.045.305.608 901.815 +0,25 1.e2-e4
42/51 19:32 1.057.554.324 901.762 +0,21 1.e2-e4 e7-e5 2.Ng1-f3 Nb8-c6 3.Bf1-b5 Ng8-f6 4.O-O Nf6xe4 5.Rf1-e1 Ne4-d6 6.Nf3xe5 Bf8-e7 7.Bb5-f1 Nc6xe5 8.Re1xe5 O-O 9.d2-d4 Be7-f6 10.Re5-e1 Rf8-e8 11.Bc1-f4 Re8xe1 12.Qd1xe1 Nd6-e8 13.c2-c3 d7-d5 14.a2-a4 a7-a5 15.Bf1-d3 g7-g6 16.Nb1-d2 Ne8-g7 17.Nd2-f3 Bc8-f5 18.Bd3xf5 Ng7xf5 19.g2-g3 Qd8-d7 20.Qe1-e2 c7-c6 21.Qe2-d2 Ra8-e8 22.h2-h4 Nf5-g7
43/46- 22:50 1.234.101.899 900.226 +0,13 1.e2-e4 e7-e5
43/55+ 24:21 1.314.457.234 899.644 +0,21 1.e2-e4
43/55 24:56 1.346.285.181 899.530 +0,21 1.e2-e4 e7-e5 2.Ng1-f3 Nb8-c6 3.Bf1-b5 Ng8-f6 4.O-O Nf6xe4 5.Rf1-e1 Ne4-d6 6.Nf3xe5 Bf8-e7 7.Bb5-f1 Nc6xe5 8.Re1xe5 O-O 9.d2-d4 Be7-f6 10.Re5-e1 Rf8-e8 11.Bc1-f4 Re8xe1 12.Qd1xe1 Nd6-e8 13.c2-c3 d7-d5 14.Bf1-d3 g7-g6 15.Nb1-d2 Ne8-g7 16.Nd2-f3 c7-c6 17.Bf4-h6 a7-a5 18.Qe1-e3 Bc8-g4 19.Nf3-e5 Ng7-f5 20.Bd3xf5 Bg4xf5 21.Ra1-e1 a5-a4 22.h2-h3
44/54- 31:57 1.722.138.757 897.971 +0,12 1.e2-e4 e7-e5
Ryzen 7 2700x
FEN: rnbqkbnr/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/RNBQKBNR w KQkq - 0 1
Stockfish_13_win_x64_avx2:
NNUE evaluation using nn-62ef826d1a6d.nnue enabled
36/50- 02:22 145.261.236 1.017.891 +0,28 1.e2-e4 e7-e5
36/50 02:47 170.761.372 1.017.605 +0,25 1.e2-e4 e7-e5 2.Ng1-f3 Nb8-c6 3.Bf1-b5 Ng8-f6 4.O-O Nf6xe4 5.Rf1-e1 Ne4-d6 6.Nf3xe5 Bf8-e7 7.Bb5-f1 Nc6xe5 8.Re1xe5 O-O 9.d2-d4 Be7-f6 10.Re5-e1 Rf8-e8 11.c2-c3 Re8xe1 12.Qd1xe1 Nd6-e8 13.Bc1-f4 d7-d5 14.Bf1-d3 g7-g6 15.Nb1-d2 Ne8-g7 16.Nd2-f3 Bc8-f5 17.Bd3xf5 Ng7xf5 18.h2-h3 c7-c6 19.Qe1-d2 Nf5-d6 20.Ra1-e1 Nd6-e4 21.Qd2-e3 Qd8-d7 22.Nf3-e5
37/47- 03:17 200.367.178 1.015.823 +0,17 1.e2-e4 e7-e5
37/49 03:41 224.491.256 1.015.420 +0,17 1.e2-e4 e7-e5 2.Ng1-f3 Nb8-c6 3.Bf1-b5 Ng8-f6 4.O-O Nf6xe4 5.Rf1-e1 Ne4-d6 6.Nf3xe5 Bf8-e7 7.Bb5-f1 Nc6xe5 8.Re1xe5 O-O 9.d2-d4 Be7-f6 10.Re5-e1 Rf8-e8 11.c2-c3 Re8xe1 12.Qd1xe1 Nd6-e8 13.a2-a4 a7-a5 14.Bc1-f4 d7-d5 15.Qe1-e3 Bc8-f5 16.Nb1-d2 h7-h6 17.Nd2-f3 c7-c6 18.Ra1-e1 Ne8-c7 19.Bf4-e5 Nc7-e6 20.Be5xf6 Qd8xf6
38/51 04:17 261.164.439 1.014.439 +0,17 1.e2-e4 e7-e5 2.Ng1-f3 Nb8-c6 3.Bf1-b5 Ng8-f6 4.O-O Nf6xe4 5.Rf1-e1 Ne4-d6 6.Nf3xe5 Bf8-e7 7.Bb5-f1 Nc6xe5 8.Re1xe5 O-O 9.d2-d4 Be7-f6 10.Re5-e1 Rf8-e8 11.c2-c3 Re8xe1 12.Qd1xe1 Nd6-e8 13.a2-a4 a7-a5 14.Bc1-f4 d7-d5 15.Bf1-d3 g7-g6 16.Qe1-e2 Ne8-d6 17.Nb1-d2 c7-c6 18.Ra1-e1 Bc8-f5 19.g2-g3 Bf5xd3 20.Qe2xd3 Bf6-g5 21.Bf4xd6 Bg5xd2 22.Qd3xd2 Qd8xd6
39/49+ 06:18 382.983.236 1.011.764 +0,25 1.d2-d4
39/50+ 06:24 388.872.084 1.012.155 +0,34 1.d2-d4
39/51 07:13 438.409.469 1.011.329 +0,15 1.e2-e4 e7-e5 2.Ng1-f3 Nb8-c6 3.Bf1-b5 Ng8-f6 4.O-O Nf6xe4 5.Rf1-e1 Ne4-d6 6.Nf3xe5 Bf8-e7 7.Bb5-f1 Nc6xe5 8.Re1xe5 O-O 9.d2-d4 Be7-f6 10.Re5-e1 Rf8-e8 11.c2-c3 Re8xe1 12.Qd1xe1 Nd6-e8 13.Bc1-f4 d7-d5 14.Bf1-d3 g7-g6 15.h2-h3 Ne8-g7 16.Nb1-d2 Bc8-f5 17.Bd3xf5 Ng7xf5 18.Nd2-f3 c7-c6 19.g2-g3 Qd8-d7 20.Kg1-g2 Ra8-e8 21.Qe1-d2 Nf5-d6 22.Ra1-e1 Re8xe1 23.Qd2xe1 Bf6-g7
40/54+ 07:37 463.026.188 1.011.042 +0,23 1.e2-e4
40/54 08:49 535.027.657 1.009.886 +0,21 1.e2-e4 e7-e5 2.Ng1-f3 Nb8-c6 3.Bf1-b5 Ng8-f6 4.O-O Nf6xe4 5.Rf1-e1 Ne4-d6 6.Nf3xe5 Bf8-e7 7.Bb5-f1 Nc6xe5 8.Re1xe5 O-O 9.d2-d4 Be7-f6 10.Re5-e1 Rf8-e8 11.c2-c3 Re8xe1 12.Qd1xe1 Nd6-e8 13.Bc1-f4 d7-d5 14.Nb1-d2 Bc8-f5 15.Qe1-e3 c7-c6 16.Ra1-e1 h7-h6 17.Qe3-g3 Bf6-g5 18.Bf4xg5 h6xg5 19.Bf1-e2 Bf5-g6 20.f2-f4 g5xf4 21.Qg3xf4 f7-f6
41/54+ 17:48 1.078.531.366 1.009.298 +0,29 1.c2-c4
41/54 19:09 1.160.542.452 1.009.212 +0,14 1.c2-c4 Ng8-f6 2.Ng1-f3 e7-e6 3.g2-g3 d7-d5 4.Bf1-g2 d5xc4 5.Qd1-a4+ Bc8-d7 6.Qa4xc4 c7-c5 7.d2-d4 Nb8-c6 8.O-O c5xd4 9.Nf3xd4 Ra8-c8 10.Nb1-c3 Nc6xd4 11.Qc4xd4 Bf8-c5 12.Qd4-f4 Bd7-c6 13.Bg2xc6+ Rc8xc6 14.Rf1-d1 Qd8-c8 15.b2-b4 Bc5-b6 16.Nc3-a4 Bb6-c7 17.Qf4-e3 O-O 18.Bc1-b2 Nf6-g4 19.Qe3-b3 Bc7-e5 20.Ra1-c1 b7-b6 21.Rc1xc6 Qc8xc6 22.Bb2xe5 Ng4xe5 23.b4-b5
42/51+ 20:30 1.242.678.825 1.009.545 +0,23 1.c2-c4
42/51+ 20:47 1.259.308.192 1.009.454 +0,31 1.c2-c4
42/51 21:46 1.318.280.276 1.009.331 +0,13 1.c2-c4 Ng8-f6 2.Ng1-f3 e7-e6 3.d2-d4 d7-d5 4.Nb1-c3 d5xc4 5.e2-e4 Bf8-b4 6.Bc1-g5 c7-c5 7.Bf1xc4 c5xd4 8.Nf3xd4 Bb4xc3+ 9.b2xc3 Qd8-a5 10.Nd4-b5 Nf6xe4 11.Qd1-d4 O-O 12.Qd4xe4 a7-a6 13.Bc4-d3 f7-f5 14.Qe4-b4 a6xb5 15.Qb4xa5 Ra8xa5 16.Bg5-e7 Rf8-e8 17.Be7-b4 Ra5-a8 18.Bd3xb5 Bc8-d7 19.Bb5-c4 Bd7-c6 20.O-O Kg8-f7 21.Bc4-b3 Ra8-a6 22.Rf1-d1 Nb8-d7 23.a2-a4
43/59+ 24:31 1.486.668.887 1.010.557 +0,22 1.c2-c4
43/59+ 28:17 1.715.530.258 1.010.397 +0,30 1.c2-c4
43/59 29:13 1.771.801.468 1.010.411 +0,26 1.c2-c4 Ng8-f6 2.Ng1-f3 e7-e6 3.g2-g3 d7-d5 4.Bf1-g2 d5xc4 5.Qd1-a4+ c7-c6 6.Qa4xc4 b7-b5 7.Qc4-b3 Bc8-b7 8.O-O Nb8-d7 9.d2-d4 a7-a6 10.Nf3-e5 Nd7xe5 11.d4xe5 Nf6-d5 12.a2-a4 Bf8-e7 13.Nb1-c3 O-O 14.Nc3xd5 c6xd5 15.Bc1-e3 b5-b4 16.a4-a5 Bb7-c6 17.Be3-b6 Qd8-e8 18.Rf1-d1 Ra8-c8 19.Ra1-c1 Bc6-a4 20.Rc1xc8 Ba4xb3 21.Rc8xe8