CEGT - rating lists July 18th 2021

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CEGT - rating lists July 18th 2021

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Hi all,
our actual rating lists are online and can be found under the attached links!

40 / 20:
New games: 3082; 22 different engines
Total: 1.489.577

NEW Engines
67 RubiChess 2.2NN x64 1CPU: 3363 - 1098 games (+32 to v. 2.1)
125 Koivisto 5.0NN x64 1CPU: 3254 - 1061 games (+247 to v. 4.0)
70 Revenge 1.0NN x64 1CPU: 3352 - 1004 games (+43 to v. Pedone 3.1)

UPDATES
7 KomodoDragon 2.0 x64 4CPU: 3547 - 899 games (+2)
65 Ethereal 13.00NN x64 1CPU: 3375 - 1618 games (+-0)
35 KDragon 2.0 x64 1CPU (MCTS): 3444 - 1822 games (+2)

40 / 4
last update was July 13th
New games: 13.500; total now: 2.933.772 games

NEW Engines
387 Chiron 5.0 x64 1CPU: 3118 - 3200 games (+89 to v. 4.0)
21 Fire 8.NN.1 x64 1CPU: 3519 - 2100 games (+166 to v. 8.1)
128 Igel 3.0.5NN x64 1CPU: 3339 - 2200 games (+31 to v. 3.0.0)
632 Invictus r382 x64 1CPU: 2981 - 2000 games (+76 to v. r305)
79 SlowChess Blitz 2.6NN x64: 3403 - 2100 games (+55 to v. 2.54)
1 Stockfish 14.0 NNUE x64 1CPU: 3655 - 2400 games (+47 to v. 13.0)

we are testing
Revenge 1.0NN x64 1CPU: ELO 3376 out of 1400 games => +43 to Pedone 3.1NN (3333)
RubiChess 2.2NN x64 1CPU Performance = ca. ELO 3390 out of 1400 games +28 to v2.1
Zahak 4.0 x64 1CPU Perf=ca. 2417 out of 1000 games
LCZero 0.27.0 J94-100 = ca. ELO 3546 out of 700 games
Drofa 3.1.0 ~ 2836 and a tournament with new engines:
https://cegt.forumieren.com/t1537-testi ... rvin-5-1-0

25'+8''
last update was July 06th with 1800 new games, total 42930 with 59 Engines/Versions
New are
5 Komodo Dragon 2.0 x64 (MCTS) 3436 +18 -18 900 games
8 RubiChess 2.1NN x64 3312 +17 -17 900 games

we are testing
Stockfish 14.0 x64 NNUE ELO 3559 out of 500 games + 20
Komodo Dragon 2.0 x64 MCTS ~ 3458/100 games

5'+3'' pb=on
last update was from July 06th
with 2400 new games; total 313510 games and 229 engines
no Program Elo + - Games Score Av.Op. Draws
1 Stockfish 13.0 NNUE x64 3590 15 15 1600 80.3% 3320 38.4%
2 Komodo Dragon 2.0 x64 3524 14 14 1600 73.8% 3324 48.8%
3 LCZero 0.25.1 Cuda (LS15.0) 3507 13 13 1600 71.9% 3325 49.8%
4 Komodo Dragon 2.0 x64 (MCTS) 3466 13 13 1600 67.2% 3327

we are testing
Ethereal 13.00 NNUE x64 ~~ELO 3361 out of 1200 games / +57 to v12.75
SlowChess Blitz 2.6NN x64 ELO 3378 out of 1300 games => +42 to v2.5 (3336)

3'+1'' pb=on
Last update was June 15th

A big „Thank you“ to all testers as usual!!

Links

40/20: http://www.cegt.net/rating.htm
Blitz: http://www.cegt.net/blitz.htm
40/120: http://www.cegt.net/rating120.htm
25+8: http://www.cegt.net/rating25plus8.htm
3+1 pb=on: http://www.cegt.net/rating3plus1pbon.htm
5+3 pb=on: http://www.cegt.net/rating5plus3pbon.htm
Tester: http://www.cegt.net/testers/testers.htm
Games of the week: http://www.cegt.net/40_40%20Rating%20Li ... on/gow.jpg

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Re: CEGT - rating lists July 18th 2021

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Elo difference between Koivisto 5.0NN (1 cpu) and Koivito 4 (1 cpu) is incredible (247 elo).

I wonder if the nnue network used in Koivisto was composed by running Stockfish games.
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Re: CEGT - rating lists July 18th 2021

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mehmet123 wrote: Sun Jul 18, 2021 1:26 pm Elo difference between Koivisto 5.0NN (1 cpu) and Koivito 4 (1 cpu) is incredible (247 elo).

I wonder if the nnue network used in Koivisto was composed by running Stockfish games.
Absolutely not.

Read their release thread to get the details of why Koivisto 5 has such a massive jump in Elo.
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Re: CEGT - rating lists July 18th 2021

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mehmet123 wrote: Sun Jul 18, 2021 1:26 pm Elo difference between Koivisto 5.0NN (1 cpu) and Koivito 4 (1 cpu) is incredible (247 elo).

I wonder if the nnue network used in Koivisto was composed by running Stockfish games.
https://github.com/Luecx/Koivisto/releases/tag/v5.0
Beside the addition of neural network code inside Koivisto, we have 83 further elo gaining patches since 4.0.
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Re: CEGT - rating lists July 18th 2021

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mehmet123 wrote: Sun Jul 18, 2021 1:26 pm Elo difference between Koivisto 5.0NN (1 cpu) and Koivito 4 (1 cpu) is incredible (247 elo).

I wonder if the nnue network used in Koivisto was composed by running Stockfish games.
We have not and never intend to use any Data from stockfish. Our data has come from around 1.5M self-play games played by Koivisto with a fixed depth of 8 against itself. This took around 20h on my machine and resulted in round about 70M fens.
The ability to speak does not make you intelligent. https://github.com/Luecx/Koivisto

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Re: CEGT - rating lists July 18th 2021

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Luecx wrote: Sun Jul 18, 2021 6:03 pm
mehmet123 wrote: Sun Jul 18, 2021 1:26 pm Elo difference between Koivisto 5.0NN (1 cpu) and Koivito 4 (1 cpu) is incredible (247 elo).

I wonder if the nnue network used in Koivisto was composed by running Stockfish games.
We have not and never intend to use any Data from stockfish. Our data has come from around 1.5M self-play games played by Koivisto with a fixed depth of 8 against itself. This took around 20h on my machine and resulted in round about 70M fens.
Thanks for information. Congratulations for this great improvement.
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Re: CEGT - blitz rating list July 19th 2021

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We have another update for our blitz-rating-list:

40 / 4
last update was July 18th
New games: 6.600; total now: 2.940.372 games

NEW Engines
164 Booot 6.5 x64 2CPU: 3311 - 1100 games
92 Ethereal 12.75 x64 2CPU 3396: 3396 - 1100 games
77 Fire 8.1 x64 2CPU: 3412 - 1100 games
95 Igel 3.0.0NN x64 2CPU: 3390 - 1100 games
8 Komodo Dragon 1.0 x64 2CPU: 3593 - 1100 games
81 Nemorino 6.00 x64 2CPU NNUE: 3407 - 1100 games
85 Pedone 3.1NN x64 2CPU: 3403 - 1100 games
73 RubiChess 2.1NN x64 2CPU: 3418 - 1100 games
84 SlowChess Blitz 2.5NN 2CPU: 3404 - 1100 games
2 Stockfish 13.0 NNUE x64 2CPU: 3608 - 1100 games
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