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Re: Kayra 1.1

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AlexChess wrote: Wed Dec 29, 2021 1:51 pm
mehmet123 wrote: Wed Dec 29, 2021 1:08 pm
op12no2 wrote: Wed Dec 29, 2021 1:02 pm
mehmet123 wrote: Wed Dec 29, 2021 12:23 pm I was thinking that most of the private chess engines that violate GPL will be open source code after some time. But now I don't think these chess engines have any plans to be an open source engine. I think the number of these engines will decrease if no tester tests these chess engines that violates GPL rules and Playchess and other platforms does not allow people to use these chess engines.
Surely anything that violates a licence should be called out and discouraged?
This rule change should start on the Talkchess Forum. Moderators should take an urgent decision and then ban testing of these GLP-violating engines.
I'm skeptical about PlayChess. Chessbase company have made a significant amount of money by just adding a new NNUE net to Stockfish.
I try AGAIN to contact Amenophis asking to release his modified Raubfisch SF source code. If not, I remove it from my SuperBlitz. I have never been able in reaching Fisherov authors, but if I will remove Raubfisch, I will remove all not GPLv3 compliant engines. Omar Khalid has already switched to ShashChess and SugaR support and I can then remove Eman. But I keep all legal SF derivatives.

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You can throw out Raubfisch. His author wrote in another forum that he is not ready to give his own code to others. Even so, he keeps releasing new versions with public downloads. He's always stealing. He also stole codes from SugaR AI.
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Re: Kayra 1.1

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Done!

Removed ALL not GPLv3 | MIT compliant engines from my running SuperBlitz in BanksiaGUI.

Raubfisch, Fisherov, Eman, AI-15, KillFish, Zeus11 and Alpha SubZero ...to meet open source community wishes.

Now challengers are 66 instead of 73.

Soon updating also the crosstable (I must complete remaining 132 games for each engine)

Best regards, Alex
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Re: Kayra 1.1

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amanjpro wrote: Wed Dec 29, 2021 2:34 pm
Guenther wrote: Wed Dec 29, 2021 11:59 am
AlexChess wrote: Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:47 am
Eduard wrote: Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:25 am That is a great result. I play with higher time controls (5 + 0 on 22 threads and ponder ON). So far unbeaten in almost 900 games in a row. The engine achieves great search depths in the server game. For me, Kayra calculates significantly deeper than some other engines with 64 cores. I know depth isn't everything, but Kayra plays strong. I just got games from a friend where Kayra was playing with 126 threads. The friend is impressed - he has won many games. I'll be showing some in PGN soon.
Dear Eduard, we must be resilients. We must understand that in Talkchess there are mainly original authors that hate SF derivatives. But I want to support Mehmet, you, Sylwy and all other friends here.

I have Kayra 1.1 PB + your superlative Kayra.bin book. I cannot share it. My new unexpected friend that kindly compiled it for me has asked so, but I have suggested to him to give the BM2 build to you too.

To demonstrate to boring haters here that I'm not a troll, a spammer or a liar, I add a screenshot of Proteus Chess that I have writed 20 years ago (!) in Visualbasic 6.0. I have finally compiled Stockfish-master with Msys2 instead of continuing to try to use Visual Studio 2019 (used for my asp.net works, but now I will start with chess) that on Windows 11 ARM64 under Parallels M1 is incredibly slow. I'm modifying it and I will publish under GPLv3 one more SF derivative: AlexChess :lol:

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PS: Guenther, Amaji, Mattheis, Aleksei, tcusr and others, please stop insulting me. I'm not reading your comments anymore because you are all in my ignore list and I will mainly contact my friends privately (luckily they are the majority)
Why have you removed a part of the real name?
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The engine is the wellknown LarsenVB which already had an interface for WB connection.
The GUI (in alpha stage and looks quite hacked together) and names three 'authors', either you are one them and did a little bit of work with the others, or you more likely you faked another person by omitting a part of the name.

It would make no sense to deface ones' own name? Alessandro Morales may not be Alex Mora, nor non-existing Alessandro Mora.
Should be not too difficult to check though...

I can only repeat you seem to be very sick and have a real DK syndrome et al.
Hahahaha he had to trim a bit of the author's name to match his. Alex dear you need to visit your doctor
TRUE Alessandro Morales is my real name. HERE I used it cropped for PRIVACY (Thank you for revealing it to all haters :cry: ) and do not tell me that all people here use their real name...

This is my first web site (1995) still online http://web.tiscali.it/chessprograms/

Amaji your really surprise me for all these attacks. Don't you remind my first kind messages congratulating for fast improvements of Zahak? Then you suddenly changed mood.

You can ask to Ed Shroeder if I wasn't one of his customers 30 years ago from Rome (he must still have my name on fiscal registers)

Luca Dormio (G6_GROUP) kindly helped me to link LarsenVB to my Visual Basic 6.0 GUI.

Aren't you a little suspicious?
I was a Mephisto-Kasparov dealer and I have writed a lot of articles for Torre & cavallo Magazine (you can find them inside my web 1.0 site)
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Re: Kayra 1.1

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The GUI was at a early stage, because in that year I have changed my job as boring asp.net web site developer :) I have lost the sources after 30+ years.
All I could do to demostrate my good faith is done. Now please stop insulting me. I have also updated my profile with my real name.

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Untouched image.

https://www.chessprogramming.org/Luca_Dormio I'm happy that he is even on chess programming wiki, he was already very skilled.

As you can see I have attributed to him his central work.
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Re: Kayra 1.1

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AlexChess wrote: Wed Dec 29, 2021 2:52 pm Luca Dormio (G6_GROUP) kindly helped me to link LarsenVB to my Visual Basic 6.0 GUI.
Sorry Alex, this sentence alone tells me that you know nothing about programming. LarsenVB is a WB engine, needs no help from anyone to work with a WB compliant GUI
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Re: Kayra 1.1

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amanjpro wrote: Wed Dec 29, 2021 3:48 pm
AlexChess wrote: Wed Dec 29, 2021 2:52 pm Luca Dormio (G6_GROUP) kindly helped me to link LarsenVB to my Visual Basic 6.0 GUI.
Sorry Alex, this sentence alone tells me that you know nothing about programming. LarsenVB is a WB engine, needs no help from anyone to work with a WB compliant GUI
It was adapted to my rudimental GUI not wb compatible, ask Luca. 20 years ago I was at beginnings. (I'm trying to contact him, if you find his email. I cannot find my Tiscali web space ftp login data after so many years, but I can show my identity from the control panel of Tiscali web provider) Then please stop insulting me. What happened to you??? You seems much more a troll than me :shock:

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Re: Kayra 1.1

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AlexChess wrote: Wed Dec 29, 2021 4:14 pm
amanjpro wrote: Wed Dec 29, 2021 3:48 pm
AlexChess wrote: Wed Dec 29, 2021 2:52 pm Luca Dormio (G6_GROUP) kindly helped me to link LarsenVB to my Visual Basic 6.0 GUI.
Sorry Alex, this sentence alone tells me that you know nothing about programming. LarsenVB is a WB engine, needs no help from anyone to work with a WB compliant GUI
It was adapted to my rudimental GUI, ask Luca. 20 years ago I was at beginning. (I'm trying to contact him if you have his email. I cannot find my Tiscali web space ftp logins data after so many years, but I can show my identity from the control panel of Tiscali web provider. Then please stop insulting me. What happened to you???

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Your bar for insult is too low, nobody has insulted you. And the low quality image you shared doesn't prove anything really. It only says there is an email attached to someone whose name might be Alessandro
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Re: Kayra 1.1

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amanjpro wrote: Wed Dec 29, 2021 3:48 pm
AlexChess wrote: Wed Dec 29, 2021 2:52 pm Luca Dormio (G6_GROUP) kindly helped me to link LarsenVB to my Visual Basic 6.0 GUI.
Sorry Alex, this sentence alone tells me that you know nothing about programming. LarsenVB is a WB engine, needs no help from anyone to work with a WB compliant GUI
But at the very end... Who are you? Why I'm answering to you, Guenter and all others stalkers I'm not interested about?

Please stop reading/posting/insulting me.

Do you think to be so superior and skilled to insult and ridicule other TC members?

I will never abandon this forum mia sponte, as already said.
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Re: Kayra 1.1

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op12no2 wrote: Wed Dec 29, 2021 12:06 pm
op12no2 wrote: Wed Dec 29, 2021 11:43 am I would suggest the reality is more that: 1. people get understandably annoyed when licences are violated and 2. people are utterly bewildered at the enthusiastic reception of engines created with virtually no creative or intellectual effort.

Obviously engine derivatives can be interesting and useful and nobody would disagree.
WRT 2...

Imagine a robot wars competition season that had no equivalent of a licence. At some point somebody makes a replica of the winning robot, changes a few trivial things, paints it a different colour, renames it and enters it into the season. Imagine further that a certain group of robot wars enthusiasts who don't really understand mechanics and even "don't care about the source" spend a great deal of time enthusing about this new robot: "a new star is born". Can you understand why the original developers who put thousands of hours of creative effort into their robot would be, at least, a little bewildered and frustrated and wonder what on earth was the point? Why are these fans enthusing over what is essentially clone, even though the original developers have make it clear that is the case? Why are these fans now booing the original robot developers for pointing that out. The new robot may even win a season and win other mini wars organised by fans. The original developers mention "statistics" and that's it - "Pah!, in my test of 2000 encounters the new robot won more then the original". "In my "opinion" the new robot is better". The original developers say "fuck it" and go to the pub.
An excellent analogy. However, in this case, even less effort is required as creating a replica is as easy as copy-pasting... It's really exasperating to watch such low effort clones receive so much attention from these clueless "fans".
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Re: Kayra 1.1

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AlexChess wrote: Wed Dec 29, 2021 2:52 pm
amanjpro wrote: Wed Dec 29, 2021 2:34 pm
Guenther wrote: Wed Dec 29, 2021 11:59 am
AlexChess wrote: Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:47 am
Eduard wrote: Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:25 am That is a great result. I play with higher time controls (5 + 0 on 22 threads and ponder ON). So far unbeaten in almost 900 games in a row. The engine achieves great search depths in the server game. For me, Kayra calculates significantly deeper than some other engines with 64 cores. I know depth isn't everything, but Kayra plays strong. I just got games from a friend where Kayra was playing with 126 threads. The friend is impressed - he has won many games. I'll be showing some in PGN soon.
Dear Eduard, we must be resilients. We must understand that in Talkchess there are mainly original authors that hate SF derivatives. But I want to support Mehmet, you, Sylwy and all other friends here.

I have Kayra 1.1 PB + your superlative Kayra.bin book. I cannot share it. My new unexpected friend that kindly compiled it for me has asked so, but I have suggested to him to give the BM2 build to you too.

To demonstrate to boring haters here that I'm not a troll, a spammer or a liar, I add a screenshot of Proteus Chess that I have writed 20 years ago (!) in Visualbasic 6.0. I have finally compiled Stockfish-master with Msys2 instead of continuing to try to use Visual Studio 2019 (used for my asp.net works, but now I will start with chess) that on Windows 11 ARM64 under Parallels M1 is incredibly slow. I'm modifying it and I will publish under GPLv3 one more SF derivative: AlexChess :lol:

Image

PS: Guenther, Amaji, Mattheis, Aleksei, tcusr and others, please stop insulting me. I'm not reading your comments anymore because you are all in my ignore list and I will mainly contact my friends privately (luckily they are the majority)
Why have you removed a part of the real name?
Image

The engine is the wellknown LarsenVB which already had an interface for WB connection.
The GUI (in alpha stage and looks quite hacked together) and names three 'authors', either you are one them and did a little bit of work with the others, or you more likely you faked another person by omitting a part of the name.

It would make no sense to deface ones' own name? Alessandro Morales may not be Alex Mora, nor non-existing Alessandro Mora.
Should be not too difficult to check though...

I can only repeat you seem to be very sick and have a real DK syndrome et al.
Hahahaha he had to trim a bit of the author's name to match his. Alex dear you need to visit your doctor
TRUE Alessandro Morales is my real name. HERE I used it cropped for PRIVACY (Thank you for revealing it to all haters :cry: ) and do not tell me that all people here use their real name...

This is my first web site (1995) still online http://web.tiscali.it/chessprograms/

Amaji your really surprise me for all these attacks. Don't you remind my first kind messages congratulating for fast improvements of Zahak? Then you suddenly changed mood.

You can ask to Ed Shroeder if I wasn't one of his customers 30 years ago from Rome (he must still have my name on fiscal registers)

Luca Dormio (G6_GROUP) kindly helped me to link LarsenVB to my Visual Basic 6.0 GUI.

Aren't you a little suspicious?
I was a Mephisto-Kasparov dealer and I have writed a lot of articles for Torre & cavallo Magazine (you can find them inside my web 1.0 site)
How were Guenther and Amanj supposed to intuit that your real name is Alessandro Morales? Assuming you're not lying, this is impressively stupid.