Rybka to play a 2700+ human opponent in mid September....

[Alexander Schmidt]

What is it? Draw by 32 move rule?

Though this position looks like draw, you first must play this too the end without blunder...

[Dr.Wael Deeb]

What is it? Draw by 32 move rule?

Though this position looks like draw, you first must play this too the end without blunder...

I did,but the rest of the game was not interesting at all....

After playing hxg5 hxg5 and later after advancing the b7 pawn one square ahead,all I have to do is to shuffle my king between the d6 and the c7 square until I got bored to death

After reaching the position displayed on the board,it doesn't take superior chess playing skills to hold your ground....

[Dr.Wael Deeb]

The first game was won by Rybka 3

[Event "?"]
[Site "?"]
[Date "2008.09.14"]
[Round "1"]
[White "Milov, Vadim"]
[Black "Rybka 3"]
[Result "0-1"]

1. Nf3 d5 2. e3 Nf6 3. c4 c6 4. Nc3 e6 5. b3 Nbd7 6. Bb2 Bd6 7. d4 O-O 8. Be2
Qe7 9. O-O b6 10. Rc1 Bb7 11. Rc2 {Rybka out of book} 11... Ne4 12. Nxe4
dxe4 13. Ne5 Rfd8 14. Qa1 Bc7 15. Rd1 Nb8 16. c5 f6 17. Nc4 b5 18. Nd6 Bxd6 19.
cxd6 Qxd6 20. a4 b4 21. f3 exf3 22. Bxf3 Nd7 23. Qc1 Rac8 24. Rc4 f5 25. Qd2
Ne5 26. Rc5 Nxf3+ 27. gxf3 a5 28. Qe1 Qe7 29. Rd2 Rd5 30. Qg3 Rcd8 31. Rdc2 e5
32. Rxd5 Rxd5 33. Rc5 Rxc5 34. dxc5 Qxc5 35. Qxe5 Qxe5 36. Bxe5 c5 37. Kf2 Bd5
38. Bc7 Bxb3 39. Bxa5 Bxa4 40. Bc7 Kf7 41. Bd6 b3 42. Be5 g5 43. Ke2 Ke6 44.
Bb2 h5 45. Kd3 Bb5+ 46. Kc3 g4 47. fxg4 fxg4 48. Ba3 h4 0-1

[Steve B]

is there a title for this match ..do you know Dr D?

if not.. may i suggest one?

Yawn and Move Regards
Steve

[Dr.Wael Deeb]

is there a title for this match ..do you know Dr D?

if not.. may i suggest one?

Yawn and Move Regards
Steve

[Uri Blass]

....Yeah,don't get so excited,yet another stupid handicap match....
It's just getting worse,why a 2700+ Fide player would agree to play like a jerk against Rybka

This is not chess,it's an ugly parody of the chess playing game

Totally Agree
these handicap games are not chess but rather a spectacle
might just as well play Monopoly or any another board game
i wonder if all of these handicap matches are not really designed to show Rybka as invincible at the expense of the GM
as to why would a GM agree to this ??
well .. sadly ..i guess the GM's need the money so they are willing to be offered up as human sacrifices to the Rybkian God
the last "real" match was against GM Benjamin who only received draw odds for purposes of scoring and prize fund distribution(and he also had White in every game)
that match ended with the GM scoring two draws and four losses
perhaps a stronger GM could have scored better i do not know..

Cattle To The Slaughter Regards
Steve

Quite righteous you are Steve....
Don't they have any sense of integrity,I can understand the need of a cach issue,but still....
Play the game like a man following the standard chess game rules and whatever the outcome is,so let it be....
I am mearly playing around 2100-2150 and here is a game played against a 2700+ engine with the black pieces,I will not name the engine,but the point is,can't a professional 2700+ GM do better than me ....Damn he can....


[Event "DCCW_RL 2008"]
[Date "2008.09.13"]
[White "xxx_2727"]
[Black "Dr.Wael Deeb_2132"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[ECO "C43"]
[Opening "Russian Game"]

1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nf6 3. d4 Nxe4 4. Bd3 d5 5. Nxe5 Nd7
6. Nxd7 Bxd7 7. O-O Bd6 8. Qh5 Nf6 9. Re1+ Be7 10. Qe5 Be6
{11s} 11. Bf4 {+0.24/18 10s} Rc8 12. Bf5 Bxf5 13. Qxf5 O-O
14. Nc3 c6 15. Rad1 Re8 16. Bg5 h6 17. Bh4 Nd7 18. Bxe7
Rxe7 19. Qh3 Nb6 20. b3 Rxe1+ 21. Rxe1 Qd7 22. Qxd7 Nxd7
23. f4 Kf8 24. Kf2 Re8 25. Rxe8+ Kxe8 26. g4 g5 27. Kg3 Ke7
28. h4 f6 29. Nd1 Nf8 30. f5 Kd6 31. a4 a5 32. Nc3 Nd7 1/2-1/2

The situation is clearly different.

Playing at home against rybka is not playing a public match when rybka has a book that prevent you to go to lines that you know to play.

I do not say that you did it in this game but in theory you can prepare your draw simply by remembering rybka-rybka games and repeating it.

one game also proves nothing and I remember that micromax could get drawn position against rybka in the world blitz championship only to lose on time.

Uri

[swami]

one game also proves nothing and I remember that micromax could get drawn position against rybka in the world blitz championship only to lose on time.

Dr.Muller deserves much credit for that! amazing how a 1700 something characters tiniest program can almost get a drawn position.

[Dr.Wael Deeb]

....Yeah,don't get so excited,yet another stupid handicap match....
It's just getting worse,why a 2700+ Fide player would agree to play like a jerk against Rybka

This is not chess,it's an ugly parody of the chess playing game

Totally Agree
these handicap games are not chess but rather a spectacle
might just as well play Monopoly or any another board game
i wonder if all of these handicap matches are not really designed to show Rybka as invincible at the expense of the GM
as to why would a GM agree to this ??
well .. sadly ..i guess the GM's need the money so they are willing to be offered up as human sacrifices to the Rybkian God
the last "real" match was against GM Benjamin who only received draw odds for purposes of scoring and prize fund distribution(and he also had White in every game)
that match ended with the GM scoring two draws and four losses
perhaps a stronger GM could have scored better i do not know..

Cattle To The Slaughter Regards
Steve

Quite righteous you are Steve....
Don't they have any sense of integrity,I can understand the need of a cach issue,but still....
Play the game like a man following the standard chess game rules and whatever the outcome is,so let it be....
I am mearly playing around 2100-2150 and here is a game played against a 2700+ engine with the black pieces,I will not name the engine,but the point is,can't a professional 2700+ GM do better than me ....Damn he can....


[Event "DCCW_RL 2008"]
[Date "2008.09.13"]
[White "xxx_2727"]
[Black "Dr.Wael Deeb_2132"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[ECO "C43"]
[Opening "Russian Game"]

1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nf6 3. d4 Nxe4 4. Bd3 d5 5. Nxe5 Nd7
6. Nxd7 Bxd7 7. O-O Bd6 8. Qh5 Nf6 9. Re1+ Be7 10. Qe5 Be6
{11s} 11. Bf4 {+0.24/18 10s} Rc8 12. Bf5 Bxf5 13. Qxf5 O-O
14. Nc3 c6 15. Rad1 Re8 16. Bg5 h6 17. Bh4 Nd7 18. Bxe7
Rxe7 19. Qh3 Nb6 20. b3 Rxe1+ 21. Rxe1 Qd7 22. Qxd7 Nxd7
23. f4 Kf8 24. Kf2 Re8 25. Rxe8+ Kxe8 26. g4 g5 27. Kg3 Ke7
28. h4 f6 29. Nd1 Nf8 30. f5 Kd6 31. a4 a5 32. Nc3 Nd7 1/2-1/2

The situation is clearly different.

Playing at home against rybka is not playing a public match when rybka has a book that prevent you to go to lines that you know to play.

I do not say that you did it in this game but in theory you can prepare your draw simply by remembering rybka-rybka games and repeating it.

one game also proves nothing and I remember that micromax could get drawn position against rybka in the world blitz championship only to lose on time.

Uri

_Correct....

_I didn't say that it proves anything....note that it's only one game and was played against the already ancient Rybka 1.01....

[Alexander Schmidt]

Though this position looks like draw, you first must play this too the end without blunder...

I did,but the rest of the game was not interesting at all....

Ah, OK. When I copy and paste PGN I don't snip away uninteresting moves. Sry for my confusion.

[Dr.Wael Deeb]

Though this position looks like draw, you first must play this too the end without blunder...

I did,but the rest of the game was not interesting at all....

Ah, OK. When I copy and paste PGN I don't snip away uninteresting moves. Sry for my confusion.

No problems at all