YES all programmers are now represented
i think this is the first dedicated Schachcomputer tourny ever .. to have at least one unit reperesented from every programmer of a dedicated unit
History in the making regards
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Re: bobby fischer memorial dedicated chess computer tourname
Well, I must say he beat the pants off of me. I was thinking about holding a little tournement with all my cheap little handhelds. Well maybe sometime later...
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Re: bobby fischer memorial dedicated chess computer tourname
by all means you should hold a tournament!Bill Rogers wrote:Well, I must say he beat the pants off of me. I was thinking about holding a little tournement with all my cheap little handhelds. Well maybe sometime later...
Bill
it will only increase our knowledge base as to which computers are stronger and you will only have some fun at it
Portable computers have feelings too Regards
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Re: bobby fischer memorial dedicated chess computer tourname
my tournament has only machines >1900 ELO. roughly ...
you can make a tournament with <1900 ELO machines...
you can make a tournament with <1900 ELO machines...
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Re: bobby fischer memorial dedicated chess computer tourname
update:
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in the moment i am negotiating with stefan meyer kahlen to let shredder mobile for java participate in the tournament.


IMO it would be an interesting participant.
Shredder java for mobile is on the level of the dedicated chess computers.
and this way stefan would also have a participant in my tournament.
it would make no sense to let shredder for pocket PC participate because that program is to strong, but the java version is IMO on the level
of the dedicated machines.
for this all i would need would be a Java-shredder for mobile that can consider 3' average instead of the 60" maximum time control i can
setup in the moment.
also with java-shredder participating i would need another participant.
is there any other dedicated machine from a programmer not on my list?
Participants:
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Motor Punkte SpMeStMiChNiCoRuPsDeIgExSuEmChMeMiTiMeGlKrMeKiAd S-B
01: Sparc {Brettcomputer} 11,0/12 · ? 0 1 1 ? 1 1 1 1 ? 1 1 1 1 1 44,00
02: Mephisto MM5 {Brettcomputer} 10,0/12 · 1 = 1 0 1 1 1 1 1 1 = 1 50,75
03: Star Diamond {Brettcomputer} 9,5/12 0 · 1 1 1 = 1 = = 1 1 1 1 50,75
04: MilanoPro {Brettcomputer} 9,0/13 ? = 0 · = 1 0 1 1 = 1 1 = 1 1 42,50
05: Challenger 24mhz {Brettcomputer} 8,0/13 1 0 0 = · 1 1 0 1 = = = 1 1 44,00
06: NigelShort 10mhz {Brettcomputer} 7,5/12 0 1 0 · 1 0 1 = 1 0 1 1 1 35,00
07: Corona D+ {Brettcomputer} 7,0/12 0 0 · = = 1 0 0 1 1 1 1 1 23,50
08: Ruby {Brettcomputer} 6,5/12 0 = 0 0 = · = 1 0 1 1 1 1 25,00
09: PsionST EMU unlimited {Brettcomputer} 6,0/8 0 · 1 1 1 1 0 1 1 22,00
10: Designer2000 Display 5mhz {Brettcomputer} 5,5/12 ? 0 1 = = 0 · 0 = 1 = 0 = 1 29,00
11: Igor 24mhz {Brettcomputer} 5,5/13 0 0 0 1 0 1 · 0 = 1 0 = = 1 25,00
12: Excel68000 {Brettcomputer} 5,0/12 0 = 0 1 0 1 · = 1 0 0 1 0 31,25
13: Supermondial B {Brettcomputer} 5,0/12 0 0 1 0 0 = 1 = · 1 0 1 0 26,75
14: Emerald Classic Plus {Brettcomputer} 5,0/13 0 = = = 0 = 0 0 · = 1 = 0 1 22,50
15: Chessmachine512 The King2.54 {Brettcomputer} 5,0/5 1 1 · 1 1 1 21,00
16: Mephisto MM2 {Brettcomputer} 4,5/12 0 0 = = 0 0 1 0 · 0 1 = 1 17,75
17: Milano {Brettcomputer} 4,0/12 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 = · = 0 1 1 17,00
18: Tiger Grenadier {Brettcomputer} 4,0/9 ? 1 0 = 0 = · 0 0 1 1 14,25
19: Mephisto Berlin {Brettcomputer} 3,5/6 0 = 1 1 0 1 · 19,00
20: Glasgow Emu unlimited {Brettcomputer} 3,5/8 0 0 0 0 = 1 1 1 · 15,75
21: Krypton Regency {Brettcomputer} 2,5/12 0 0 = 0 0 0 0 = = 0 1 0 · 14,50
22: Mephi IIIb 8mhz {Brettcomputer} 2,5/11 0 0 0 0 0 1 1 = 0 0 0 · 13,50
23: Kishon Chesster {Brettcomputer} 2,5/12 0 = 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 = · = 12,50
24: Advanced Star Chess {Brettcomputer} 0,5/11 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 = · 1,25
133 Partien von 276 gespielt
Name des Turniers: Schachcomputer
Ort/ Land: SCW, Deutschland
Spielstufe: Turnier 40/120 20/60


IMO it would be an interesting participant.
Shredder java for mobile is on the level of the dedicated chess computers.
and this way stefan would also have a participant in my tournament.
it would make no sense to let shredder for pocket PC participate because that program is to strong, but the java version is IMO on the level
of the dedicated machines.
for this all i would need would be a Java-shredder for mobile that can consider 3' average instead of the 60" maximum time control i can
setup in the moment.
also with java-shredder participating i would need another participant.
is there any other dedicated machine from a programmer not on my list?
Participants:
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Name Programmierer CPU Takt ROM/RAM
Sparc spracklen sparc cpu 32bit 20 mhz 256KByte ROM 1024 KByte RAM (hash tables)
Excel68000 spracklen 68000 12 mhz 64KByte ROM 8 KByte RAM
Kishon Chesster spracklen 6502 3.6mhz 32KByte ROM 8 KBYte RAM
Designer2000 Display spracklen 6502 5 mhz 32KByte ROM 8 KByte RAM
StarDiamond dave kittinger H8 singlechip 25 mhz 512KByte ROM !! 256 Kbyte RAM (118 for hash)
Ruby dave kittinger H8 singlechip 20 mhz 32 KByte ROM 1 KByte RAM
Emerald Classic Plus dave kittinger H8 singlechip 26 mhz 32 KByte ROM 1 KByte RAM
NigelShort ed schroeder 6502 10 mhz 64KByte ROM 8 KByte RAM
Milano ed schroeder 6502 5 mhz 64KByte ROM 8 KByte RAM
MM5 ed schroeder 6502 5 mhz 32KByte ROM 8 KByte RAM
Supermondial b frans morsch 6502 4 mhz 32KByte ROM 8 KByte RAM
Challenger frans morsch H8 singlechip 24 mhz 32KByte ROM 1 KByte RAM
Milano Pro frans morsch SH7034 single 20 mhz 64KByte ROM 4 KByte RAM
Mephisto IIIb nitsche+henne 1806 8 mhz 32KByte ROM 4 KByte RAM
Igor ron nelson H8 singlechip 24 mhz
Regency horvath H8 singlechip 20 mhz
Corona d+ julio kaplan 6502 6 mhz 32+32+32 ROM (program, book, endgame-rom) + 8 Kbyte RAM
MM2 ulf rathsmann 6502 3.7mhz 32KByte ROM 4 KByte RAM
Adv.StarChess kaare danielsen 6301Y 8 mhz 16KByte ROM 2.25 KB RAM
CM The King2.54 johan de Koning ARM2 RISC 32 15 mhz 512KByte
Tiger Grenadier chrilly donninger H8 singlechip 20 mhz 32KByte ROM 4 KByte RAM
Mephisto Berlin richard lang 68000 12 mhz 128KByte ROM 512 KByte RAM
PsionST EMU unlimited richard lang 68000 EMULATOR unlim.
Glasgow Emu unlimited nitsche+henne 68000 EMULATOR unlim.
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Re: bobby fischer memorial dedicated chess computer tourname
latest results:
http://schachcomputerwelt.foren-city.de ... orial.html
especially surprising is IMO the difference between MM5 and Milano !
there was one game where the MM5 destroyed the milano.
[Event "Oldie-Turnier"]
[Site "SCW"]
[Date "2009.07.16"]
[Round "1"]
[White "Mephisto Milano"]
[Black "Mephisto MM5"]
[ECO "B17"]
[Result "0-1"]
1. e4 c6 2. d4 d5 3. Nc3 dxe4 4. Nxe4 Nd7 5. Bc4 Ngf6
6. Nxf6+ Nxf6 7. c3 e6 8. Nf3 c5 9. Bg5 cxd4 10. Nxd4 a6
11. O-O Be7 12. Qe2 O-O 13. Bf4 {"} b5 {"} 14. Nc6 Qe8
15. Nxe7+ Qxe7 16. Bd3 Bb7 17. a4 b4 18. c4 Rad8 19. Rfc1
Qc5 20. Rd1 Rd7 21. Bxh7+ Kxh7 22. Rxd7 Nxd7 23. Qd3+ Qf5
24. Qxd7 Bxg2 25. Qd6 Bb7 26. Qxf8 {??? gespielt nach 5
Halbzügen mit +0,46. Das gibt die Partie sofort her. } Qh3
{MM5 sagt Matt in 5 an !} 27. Qxg7+ Kxg7 28. f3 Qxf3
29. Be5+ Kg6 30. Rc1 Qg2# 0-1
i would say the milano is a step backwards, the mm5 is stronger.
also interesting how the different morsch versions played.
some even overclocked.
in the next game mm5 will have to fight against berlin 68000.
So far Stefan Meyer Kahlen was not able to update his JavaChess Program for my mobile so that it could participate with 3'computation
time in my tournament. He is fully in the development of Shredder12
and has not much time for this old mobile stuff.
therefore i was not able to play a game with this engine.
http://schachcomputerwelt.foren-city.de ... orial.html
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Motor Punkte ChSpStMiMeMeChMePsNiRuIgCoEmDeSuExMeMiTiGlKiKrMeKaMaAdSh S-B
01: Chessmachine512 The King2.54 {Brettcomputer} 15,0/16 · 1 1 1 1 1 0 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 107,00
02: Sparc {Brettcomputer} 14,5/16 · = 1 0 1 1 1 1 ? 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 77,75
03: Star Diamond {Brettcomputer} 11,5/15 0 · 1 1 0 1 1 = 1 1 = = 1 1 1 1 82,50
04: MilanoPro {Brettcomputer} 11,5/17 0 = 0 · = = 1 1 1 0 1 1 = 1 1 = 1 1 70,25
05: Mephisto Schachakademie 24mhz {Brettcomputer} 11,5/17 0 0 · 1 0 = = 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 = 1 0 1 59,00
06: Mephisto MM5 {Brettcomputer} 11,0/15 0 1 = 0 · 1 0 1 1 1 1 1 = 1 1 1 64,50
07: Challenger 24mhz {Brettcomputer} 10,5/17 0 1 0 = 1 0 · = = 1 1 = 1 0 = 1 1 1 75,00
08: Mephisto Berlin {Brettcomputer} 10,5/16 0 0 0 = = · 1 1 1 0 1 1 = 1 1 1 1 57,25
09: PsionST EMU unlimited {Brettcomputer} 7,5/11 1 0 = · 0 1 1 1 1 1 0 1 45,75
10: NigelShort 10mhz {Brettcomputer} 7,5/13 0 1 0 0 · 1 0 = 1 1 0 1 1 1 39,50
11: Ruby {Brettcomputer} 7,5/16 0 = = 0 0 0 0 · = = 1 0 1 1 1 = 1 35,50
12: Igor 24mhz {Brettcomputer} 7,0/16 0 0 0 0 0 1 1 · 0 = 1 0 1 = 1 = = 35,50
13: Corona D+ {Brettcomputer} 7,0/12 0 0 = 1 · = 0 0 1 1 1 1 1 27,25
14: Emerald Classic Plus {Brettcomputer} 6,0/17 0 0 = 0 0 = 1 = = · 0 0 0 = 1 0 = 1 36,50
15: Designer2000 Display 5mhz {Brettcomputer} 6,0/15 ? 1 0 0 0 0 = 0 = 1 · = = 1 = = 0 35,75
16: Supermondial B {Brettcomputer} 6,0/15 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 1 1 = · = 1 0 1 31,75
17: Excel68000 {Brettcomputer} 5,5/14 0 = 0 0 0 1 = 0 1 1 = · 0 1 0 41,50
18: Mephisto MM2 {Brettcomputer} 5,5/14 0 0 0 = 0 = 0 0 1 · 1 = 0 1 1 25,25
19: Milano {Brettcomputer} 4,0/15 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 = 0 0 · = 0 1 1 18,00
20: Tiger Grenadier {Brettcomputer} 4,0/14 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 = 0 = · 0 1 1 15,50
21: Glasgow Emu unlimited {Brettcomputer} 3,5/8 0 0 0 0 = 1 1 1 · 17,50
22: Kishon Chesster {Brettcomputer} 3,5/15 0 0 0 0 0 = 0 0 0 0 1 0 = · 1 = 16,50
23: Krypton Regency {Brettcomputer} 3,0/14 0 0 = = 0 0 0 0 0 = 0 = 1 0 · 23,50
24: Mephi IIIb 8mhz {Brettcomputer} 2,5/12 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 = 1 0 0 0 · 16,00
25: Kasparov Blitz {Brettcomputer} 2,0/7 0 1 0 = = 0 0 · 18,25
26: Maestro D++ 6 mhz {Brettcomputer} 1,5/2 = 1 · 9,50
27: Advanced Star Chess {Brettcomputer} 0,5/13 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 = · 1,75
28: Shredder java rokr_z6 {Brettcomputer} 0,0/0 · 0,00
186 Partien von 378 gespielt
Name des Turniers: Schachcomputer
Ort/ Land: SCW, Deutschland
Spielstufe: Turnier 40/120 20/60
there was one game where the MM5 destroyed the milano.
[Event "Oldie-Turnier"]
[Site "SCW"]
[Date "2009.07.16"]
[Round "1"]
[White "Mephisto Milano"]
[Black "Mephisto MM5"]
[ECO "B17"]
[Result "0-1"]
1. e4 c6 2. d4 d5 3. Nc3 dxe4 4. Nxe4 Nd7 5. Bc4 Ngf6
6. Nxf6+ Nxf6 7. c3 e6 8. Nf3 c5 9. Bg5 cxd4 10. Nxd4 a6
11. O-O Be7 12. Qe2 O-O 13. Bf4 {"} b5 {"} 14. Nc6 Qe8
15. Nxe7+ Qxe7 16. Bd3 Bb7 17. a4 b4 18. c4 Rad8 19. Rfc1
Qc5 20. Rd1 Rd7 21. Bxh7+ Kxh7 22. Rxd7 Nxd7 23. Qd3+ Qf5
24. Qxd7 Bxg2 25. Qd6 Bb7 26. Qxf8 {??? gespielt nach 5
Halbzügen mit +0,46. Das gibt die Partie sofort her. } Qh3
{MM5 sagt Matt in 5 an !} 27. Qxg7+ Kxg7 28. f3 Qxf3
29. Be5+ Kg6 30. Rc1 Qg2# 0-1
i would say the milano is a step backwards, the mm5 is stronger.
also interesting how the different morsch versions played.
some even overclocked.
in the next game mm5 will have to fight against berlin 68000.
So far Stefan Meyer Kahlen was not able to update his JavaChess Program for my mobile so that it could participate with 3'computation
time in my tournament. He is fully in the development of Shredder12
and has not much time for this old mobile stuff.
therefore i was not able to play a game with this engine.
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Re: bobby fischer memorial dedicated chess computer tourname
Where is the Scisys Turbo 16k??
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Steve

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