mclane wrote:don't YOU think that 80 EURO is a little TOO much ?
why not 50 euro ?
what justifies the high price?
as a potential customer i would like to know.
Hi Thor !
This is a special Shredder version adjusted to quadrupeds !

Regards,
Silvian
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mclane wrote:don't YOU think that 80 EURO is a little TOO much ?
why not 50 euro ?
what justifies the high price?
as a potential customer i would like to know.
Good to know that I am not an orphan..Sylwy wrote:Dr.Wael Deeb wrote:My brother from the other mother ..................................Tony Thomas wrote:I guess any improvement is better than none..and 25 points in my opinion is good for any top 5 engine, except for Rybka.
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Hi Doc !
Tony is my child ! But.............I can't remember ( yet ) the mother !
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There is nothing more heart breaking than a son and a father meet at last and share their love....sorry,I had to go,I amTony Thomas wrote:Good to know that I am not an orphan..Sylwy wrote:Dr.Wael Deeb wrote:My brother from the other mother ..................................Tony Thomas wrote:I guess any improvement is better than none..and 25 points in my opinion is good for any top 5 engine, except for Rybka.
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To me, it clearly looks like a souvenir gimmick for those attending the World Chess Championship in Bonn.mclane wrote:yes but why is it that expensive ?
Can you clarify what you mean by the change in play?IWB wrote:Hello,
At the UEP Web shop, and only there, the "...official chess program of the World Chess Championship 2008" is available.
Shredder Bonn WM Edition
http://www.uep-chess.com/cms_english/
Here is my small rating list with the engine included:
1 Thread, 256 MB hash, 4pc Tbs/Sbs/BBs, Ponder on, 6 + 3, 2.4GHz C2, starting positions, changing colors, no book, no learning.
For those who are interested, this Shredder is playing very different to the latest releases!Code: Select all
Program Elo + - Games Score Av.Op. Draws 1 Rybka 3 : 2831 13 13 2200 77.7 % 2614 30.2 % 2 Rybka 2.3.2a mp : 2719 7 7 5500 68.0 % 2588 37.2 % 3 Rybka 2.2n2 mp : 2691 14 14 1500 61.9 % 2607 39.6 % 4 Rybka 1.2f : 2670 7 7 7100 65.2 % 2561 33.5 % 5 Shredder WM Edition x32 : 2624 17 17 1000 55.6 % 2585 36.2 % 6 Zappa Mexico II x64 : 2623 9 9 3700 51.3 % 2614 40.1 % 7 Deep Shredder 11 x64 : 2600 9 9 3300 52.2 % 2584 39.0 % 8 Strelka 2.0 B x64 : 2597 16 16 1000 52.8 % 2578 43.5 % 9 Rybka 1.0 Beta x64 : 2592 11 11 2300 53.5 % 2568 36.7 % 10 Zappa Mexico I X64 : 2590 9 9 3600 53.2 % 2568 40.4 % 11 Naum 3.1 : 2590 7 7 5400 47.7 % 2606 39.0 % 12 HIARCS 12 MP : 2577 9 9 3400 43.3 % 2624 37.2 % 13 Toga II 1.4 beta5c BB : 2575 9 9 3300 44.7 % 2612 39.0 % 14 DSjeng 3.0 x64 : 2565 10 10 3100 41.0 % 2628 33.8 % 15 Naum 2.2 : 2542 10 10 2700 43.5 % 2587 42.9 % 16 Rybka 1.0 Beta 32-bit : 2540 8 8 4400 50.1 % 2540 33.2 % 17 HIARCS 11.2 : 2534 7 7 6600 45.5 % 2566 36.3 % 18 Fruit 05/11/03 : 2530 7 7 5300 41.0 % 2593 38.5 % 19 DS 10 Balmung : 2529 10 10 2600 49.9 % 2529 42.5 % 20 LoopMP 12.32 : 2524 8 8 4700 46.5 % 2548 34.8 % 21 Loop 13.5 : 2522 8 8 4700 43.4 % 2568 37.0 % 22 Toga II 1.2.1a : 2518 7 7 6600 46.6 % 2541 35.2 % 23 ListMP 11.64b : 2515 12 12 2200 44.0 % 2557 35.9 % 24 Deep Shredder 10 x64 : 2507 6 6 7100 41.1 % 2569 36.5 % 25 HIARCS 11 MP : 2505 19 19 800 44.9 % 2540 36.4 % 26 Glaurung 2.1 : 2504 21 21 700 44.5 % 2543 33.9 % 27 Naum 2.1 : 2503 9 9 3700 44.6 % 2541 36.4 % 28 Toga II 1.3x4 : 2496 19 19 800 44.6 % 2534 38.9 % 29 Hiarcs X54 64bit : 2495 22 22 600 43.9 % 2537 36.5 % 30 Spike 1.2 Turin : 2478 6 6 8700 36.5 % 2574 34.7 % 31 DS 9.02 : 2464 16 16 1400 37.9 % 2551 29.1 % 32 Deep Sjeng 2.7 : 2453 13 13 2000 31.2 % 2591 33.1 % 33 Glaurung 2-epsilon/5 : 2444 16 16 1300 34.8 % 2553 30.9 % 34 Deep Sjeng 2.5 : 2384 20 20 900 29.9 % 2532 30.6 %
Bye
Ingo
Not from my side, I am not 100% sure but I think the CEGT might test it.Marek Soszynski wrote:Any more news on this new Shredder?
the UEP website has now some info on this version. There is no update offer
for customers of previous versions this time as this version is distributed
by UEP.
You will again get an update offer for Deep Shredder 12 which will be
available on shredderchess.com.