ernest wrote:Sedat Canbaz wrote:I think (for chess) Q9650@ 4.8GHz is equalant to i7 920 D0 @4.20GHz
For Rybka, it seems the Core i7 bonus (with HT off) is more like 30% than the 14% you quote

I did not understand you exactly what do you mean

,but anyway here is my explantation,why i think that the elo difference between i7 920 @ 4.2GHz and Q9650 @4.8GHz should be approx. equalant:
Rybka Benchmarks:
http://www.sedatchess.com/rybkabenchmarks.html
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Kn/s Hardware/Processor GHz/MHz Threads Hardware User
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414kN/s Intel i7 920 @2.67GHz 4100MHz 4 CPU Phil Harris
395kN/s Intel Q9650 @3.0GHz 4500MHz 4 CPU THE_MACHINE
Crafty Benchmarks:
http://www.sedatchess.com/craftybenchmarks.html
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Processor GHz Crafty.exe Threads Kn/s Time Hardware User
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i7 920 HT off @4.00GHz 64 bit 4CPU 19152047 7.71 Phil Harris
Intel Q9650 @4.23GHz 64 bit 4CPU 18558888 8.92 Bobby Casey
Fritz Chess Benchmarks:
http://www.jens.tauchclub-krems.at/dive ... marks.html
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Intel Qx9650 @5026MHZ: 14028 Kn/s
i7 920 HT off @4100MHz: 12193 Kn/s
Intel QX9650 @4000MHz: 11011 Kn/s
SCCT Hardware Tournament
http://www.sedatchess.com/scct_hardware.html
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Rank Hardware Program Elo Games Kn/s Hardware User
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01 2xQX9775@4.0GHz Rybka 3 x64 t8 3301 200 432 Majd Ansari
02 Core i7 920@4.1GHz Rybka 3 x64 t4 3246 200 414 Phil Harris
03 QX9650@3.8GHz Rybka 3 x64 t4 3238 250 320 Sedat Canbaz
[Event "Partida evaluada, 16m + 0s"]
[Site "Sala de máquinas"]
[Date "2009.05.14"]
[Round "?"]
[White "THE_MACHINE, Rybka 3"]
[Black "Crawly, Rybka 3 Human"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "B97"]
[BlackElo "2691"]
[Annotator "0.13;-0.21"]
[PlyCount "181"]
[EventDate "2009.05.21"]
[TimeControl "960"]
{Rybka 3 (4 CPUs): 19.1 plies; 395kN/s Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q9650 @
3.00GHz 4500MHz, HumaqCraw_BlitzCraw.ctg, 512 MB} 1. e4 {
[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} c5 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} 2. Nf3 {
[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} d6 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} 3. d4 {
[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} cxd4 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} 4. Nxd4 {
[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} Nf6 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} 5. Nc3 {
[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} a6 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} 6. Bg5 {
[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} e6 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} 7. f4 {
[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} Qb6 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} 8. Qd2 {
[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} Qxb2 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} 9. Rb1 {
[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} Qa3 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} 10. f5 {
[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} e5 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} 11. Bxf6 {
[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} gxf6 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} 12. Nb3 {
[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} Be7 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} 13. Be2 {
[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} Bd7 {[%eval -21,16] [%emt 0:00:25]} 14. O-O {
[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} Bc6 {[%eval -25,17] [%emt 0:00:19]} 15. Nd5 {
[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} Bd8 {[%eval -21,17] [%emt 0:00:10]} 16. Rf3 {
[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} Nd7 {[%eval -15,17] [%emt 0:00:34]} 17. Rd1 {
[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} Qa4 {[%eval -7,16] [%emt 0:01:13]} 18. c4 {
[%eval 13,15] [%emt 0:00:13]} Nb6 {(Ta8-c8) [%eval -12,17] [%emt 0:01:16]} 19.
c5 {[%eval 7,15] [%emt 0:00:28]} Bxd5 {[%eval -12,17] [%emt 0:00:00]} 20. exd5
{[%eval 8,16] [%emt 0:00:12]} Nd7 {[%eval 15,18] [%emt 0:01:36]} 21. c6 {
[%eval 35534,18] [%emt 0:00:00]} bxc6 {[%eval 3,19] [%emt 0:00:37]} 22. dxc6 {
[%eval 31,19] [%emt 0:00:00]} Qxc6 {[%eval 3,20] [%emt 0:00:38]} 23. Rc3 {
[%eval 31,19] [%emt 0:00:00]} Qb6+ {[%eval 3,20] [%emt 0:00:25]} 24. Kh1 {
[%eval 31,19] [%emt 0:01:50]} Ra7 {(Ld8-e7) [%eval 0,20] [%emt 0:00:00]} 25.
Bf3 {[%eval 36,16] [%emt 0:00:10]} Rc7 {[%eval 0,20] [%emt 0:00:10]} 26. Rd3 {
[%eval 0,17] [%emt 0:00:14]} Be7 {[%eval 0,21] [%emt 0:00:35]} 27. Na5 {
[%eval 7,18] [%emt 0:00:21]} Rg8 {[%eval 0,20] [%emt 0:00:50]} 28. Nb7 {
[%eval 35534,18] [%emt 0:01:02]} d5 {[%eval 0,19] [%emt 0:00:02]} 29. Rb3 {
[%eval 46,17] [%emt 0:00:27]} Qd4 {(Db6-c6) [%eval 24,18] [%emt 0:00:29]} 30.
Qh6 {[%eval 34,15] [%emt 0:00:12]} Qc4 {[%eval 24,18] [%emt 0:00:00]} 31. Bxd5
{[%eval 36,16] [%emt 0:00:15]} Qg4 {[%eval 24,19] [%emt 0:00:15]} 32. Bf3 {
[%eval 36,17] [%emt 0:00:04]} Qxf5 {[%eval 24,19] [%emt 0:00:53]} 33. Qd2 {
[%eval 38,18] [%emt 0:00:00]} Qe6 {[%eval 36,19] [%emt 0:00:49]} 34. Rc3 {
[%eval 47,18] [%emt 0:00:00]} Rxc3 {[%eval 36,18] [%emt 0:00:05]} 35. Qxc3 {
[%eval 40,19] [%emt 0:00:25]} Nb6 {[%eval 31,18] [%emt 0:00:00]} 36. Qc7 {
[%eval 40,18] [%emt 0:00:08]} Kf8 {[%eval 31,19] [%emt 0:00:07]} 37. Nd6 {
[%eval 40,18] [%emt 0:00:10]} Kg7 {[%eval 32,19] [%emt 0:00:13]} 38. Qxb6 {
[%eval 40,18] [%emt 0:00:04]} Rd8 {[%eval 31,20] [%emt 0:00:23]} 39. Nf5+ {
[%eval 39,19] [%emt 0:00:00]} Qxf5 {[%eval 31,20] [%emt 0:00:34]} 40. Rxd8 {
[%eval 39,20] [%emt 0:00:00]} Bxd8 {[%eval 31,20] [%emt 0:00:29]} 41. Qxd8 {
[%eval 39,21] [%emt 0:00:00]} Qb1+ {[%eval 25,20] [%emt 0:00:10]} 42. Qd1 {
[%eval 39,22] [%emt 0:00:02]} Qxa2 {[%eval 25,21] [%emt 0:00:03]} 43. Bd5 {
[%eval 35,22] [%emt 0:01:24]} Qf2 {[%eval 27,22] [%emt 0:00:00]} 44. Qg4+ {
[%eval 35,21] [%emt 0:00:20]} Kf8 {[%eval 30,22] [%emt 0:00:03]} 45. h4 {
[%eval 41,21] [%emt 0:00:35]} Qd2 {[%eval 31,21] [%emt 0:00:00]} 46. Qe4 {
[%eval 40,20] [%emt 0:00:23]} a5 {[%eval 35,21] [%emt 0:00:00]} 47. Kh2 {
[%eval 41,20] [%emt 0:00:08]} h6 {[%eval 36,21] [%emt 0:00:09]} 48. Qc4 {
[%eval 42,20] [%emt 0:00:07]} Qb4 {[%eval 36,19] [%emt 0:00:01]} 49. Qxb4+ {
[%eval 42,21] [%emt 0:00:10]} axb4 {[%eval 36,20] [%emt 0:00:02]} 50. Kg3 {
[%eval 43,22] [%emt 0:00:06]} f5 {[%eval 37,21] [%emt 0:00:00]} 51. Kf3 {
[%eval 43,22] [%emt 0:00:07]} Ke7 {[%eval 37,22] [%emt 0:00:00]} 52. g3 {
[%eval 43,22] [%emt 0:00:11]} Kf6 {[%eval 38,22] [%emt 0:00:04]} 53. Ke3 {
[%eval 43,22] [%emt 0:00:04]} Kg6 {[%eval 38,22] [%emt 0:00:02]} 54. Bb3 {
[%eval 43,22] [%emt 0:00:09]} Kf6 {(Kg6-g7) [%eval 38,22] [%emt 0:00:02]} 55.
Bc2 {[%eval 43,22] [%emt 0:00:09]} Ke6 {[%eval 39,22] [%emt 0:00:00]} 56. Kd3 {
[%eval 47,22] [%emt 0:00:06]} Kf6 {[%eval 38,22] [%emt 0:00:13]} 57. Kc4 {
[%eval 87,21] [%emt 0:00:04]} e4 {(Kf6-g6) [%eval 138,20] [%emt 0:00:02]} 58.
Kd4 {[%eval 194,20] [%emt 0:00:09]} Ke6 {[%eval 138,22] [%emt 0:00:00]} 59.
Bb3+ {[%eval 234,21] [%emt 0:00:05]} Kf6 {[%eval 204,23] [%emt 0:00:13]} 60.
Ke3 {[%eval 35534,23] [%emt 0:00:00]} Kg7 {
(Kf6-g6) [%eval 204,22] [%emt 0:00:02]} 61. Kf4 {[%eval 303,22] [%emt 0:00:05]}
Kf6 {[%eval 207,23] [%emt 0:00:02]} 62. Bc4 {[%eval 303,23] [%emt 0:00:04]} h5
{[%eval 237,22] [%emt 0:00:00]} 63. Bb3 {[%eval 343,22] [%emt 0:00:06]} Kg7 {
[%eval 269,22] [%emt 0:00:00]} 64. Ba4 {[%eval 503,22] [%emt 0:00:15]} Kf6 {
(Kg7-g6) [%eval 456,22] [%emt 0:00:07]} 65. Bd7 {[%eval 503,20] [%emt 0:00:00]}
b3 {(e4-e3) [%eval 496,22] [%emt 0:00:07]} 66. Bxf5 {
[%eval 383,20] [%emt 0:00:00]} e3 {[%eval 496,22] [%emt 0:00:12]} 67. Bd3 {
[%eval 509,23] [%emt 0:00:17]} Ke6 {[%eval 496,21] [%emt 0:00:00]} 68. Bc4+ {
[%eval 509,22] [%emt 0:00:39]} Kd7 {(Ke6-f6) [%eval 496,18] [%emt 0:00:04]} 69.
Kxe3 {[%eval 509,20] [%emt 0:00:35]} b2 {[%eval 504,22] [%emt 0:00:00]} 70. Bd3
{[%eval 509,21] [%emt 0:00:30]} Ke6 {[%eval 509,22] [%emt 0:00:00]} 71. Ke4 {
[%eval 509,20] [%emt 0:00:19]} f6 {(Ke6-d6) [%eval 512,21] [%emt 0:00:00]} 72.
Kd4 {[%eval 512,18] [%emt 0:00:23]} f5 {(Ke6-d6) [%eval 512,19] [%emt 0:00:00]}
73. Ke3 {[%eval 510,18] [%emt 0:00:03]} Ke5 {[%eval 512,16] [%emt 0:00:03]} 74.
Bb1 {[%eval 512,18] [%emt 0:00:05]} Kf6 {[%eval 512,15] [%emt 0:00:00]} 75. Kf4
{[%eval 512,16] [%emt 0:00:18]} Kg6 {(Kf6-g7) [%eval 728,15] [%emt 0:00:00]}
76. Bxf5+ {[%eval 776,14] [%emt 0:00:03]} Kf6 {
(Kg6-h6) [%eval 720,15] [%emt 0:00:05]} 77. Bb1 {[%eval 1162,13] [%emt 0:00:05]
} Ke7 {(Kf6-e6) [%eval 727,15] [%emt 0:00:04]} 78. Kg5 {
[%eval 1162,11] [%emt 0:00:01]} Ke6 {(Ke7-f7) [%eval 790,11] [%emt 0:00:07]}
79. Kxh5 {[%eval 1283,10] [%emt 0:00:13]} Ke7 {
(Ke6-e5) [%eval 1511,12] [%emt 0:00:00]} 80. Kg6 {
[%eval 32754,11] [%emt 0:00:01]} Ke8 {[%eval 1495,10] [%emt 0:00:07]} 81. h5 {
[%eval 32755,9] [%emt 0:00:00]} Kf8 {[%eval 1566,9] [%emt 0:00:04]} 82. Ba2 {
[%eval 32756,8] [%emt 0:00:00]} Ke7 {(b2-b1D+) [%eval 1577,8] [%emt 0:00:02]}
83. h6 {[%eval 32757,7] [%emt 0:00:00]} Kd7 {
(Ke7-d6) [%eval 1577,7] [%emt 0:00:01]} 84. h7 {[%eval 32758,6] [%emt 0:00:00]}
Kd6 {(Kd7-e8) [%eval 1721,8] [%emt 0:00:05]} 85. h8=Q {
[%eval 32759,4] [%emt 0:00:00]} b1=Q+ {[%eval 2304,8] [%emt 0:00:04]} 86. Bxb1
{[%eval 32761,3] [%emt 0:00:00]} Kd7 {(Kd6-d5) [%eval 32759,6] [%emt 0:00:00]}
87. Qc3 {[%eval 32762,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} Kd6 {[%eval 32761,4] [%emt 0:00:00]}
88. Be4 {[%eval 32763,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} Ke6 {[%eval 32761,3] [%emt 0:00:00]}
89. Qd4 {[%eval 32764,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} Ke7 {[%eval 32764,3] [%emt 0:00:00]}
90. Bc6 {[%eval 32765,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} Ke6 {[%eval 32765,3] [%emt 0:00:00]}
91. Qf6# {[%eval 32766,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} 1-0
Best,
Sedat