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Karmazen & Oliver
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Christopher Conkie wrote:Not bad Oliver. I respect your comments and I understand why you made them.

Now it's time for some more music. BTW Can you fly?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDPPusitRog

http://lyrics.filestube.com/song/57acd0 ... o-Win.html

Music......good for chess people. Get's them refocused.

:)

Christopher
Yes, OK, thanks for your seconds post... ;-)

I like a lot rybka, and I defender the code and work of vasik, I say he in some times that it´s fantastic his work.

but THIS FORUM it´s internacional... not´only ryba...
in other theme: a metaphor, about dumping...


In a similar computer chess, it's like a mark had given their computers-dedicate-machines free, so that everyone buys the same computer chess, all identical and all alike, with intent to cause the bankruptcy of small computers... (but often museum boring, is´t not?, right?)
I just wanted to express my opinion, I am not angry, only surprised about some post... and the try of dificults access info.

a greeting. & musics regards. from spain.

oliver
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Steve B
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Re: About "Double standard" & about clones an

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Sorry Oliver
i had to remove the link you gave in your inital post
we received a complaint that it contained a link to the site where the engine can be downloaded

please do not post another link
Best Regards
Steve
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Temptation

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Yes, this is an international forum.

So let me show something that is worldwide.......

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Njh6paP3eyk

http://www.lyricstime.com/heaven-17-tem ... yrics.html

"it's just the high cost of loving"

Greetings from the UK to Spain

Christopher
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kurt

Re: About "Double standard" & about clones an

Post by kurt »

Steve B wrote:
Karmazen & Oliver wrote:
http://talkchess.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=30277

for me, this is A VETO/parcial.

Fresh regards,

oliver
OK
but if you click on the link in my post in the thread you will see we allow ALL discussion which some were against
Le Citrine Sends Its Regards
Steve

This message is in support for Oliver's complaint.

Steve you may remember my take on this subject which I posted
to enlist Dr. R.Hyatt and other free engine designers to use this opportunity and carry the torch on our behalf to make the seeds from Crafty $ Fruit the source code for the best engines of the future .

Please do not stop the advance of computer science on this site with
unrealistic veto's for legal matters. Let Rybka & Co fight the legal battle
by showing that the ideas from Crafty and Fruit are not part of their
design. Until then let all interesting parties enjoy the new engine
with a free available source code for all just as Dr. R. Hyatt
envisioned when he made Crafty public knowledge.
Karmazen & Oliver
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Re: About "Double standard" & about clones an

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Steve B wrote:Sorry Oliver
i had to remove the link you gave in your inital post
we received a complaint that it contained a link to the site where the engine can be downloaded

please do not post another link
Best Regards
Steve
why ? it´s robbolito ?¡, err ?¡ &:

[mode error compiled debug moderation arguments ON]
Steve B wrote:
Dr.Wael Deeb wrote:Don't worry about your English oliver,got your point :D

1.The moderators are the least guilty in this messy situation....I support them all the way long....one way or the other,they had to make a decision and o
Dr.D
Thanks Dr.D
[mode error compiled debug moderation arguments OFF]
we received a complaint t..
I see... I hope that some/they more important that my opinion. But moderation decisions could and should change...

contradictory regards. from spain.
oliver
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Re: About "Double standard" & about clones an

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SzG wrote:
Steve B wrote:Sorry Oliver
i had to remove the link you gave in your inital post
we received a complaint that it contained a link to the site where the engine can be downloaded

please do not post another link
Best Regards
Steve
Steve, I don't think it makes sense. Anyone can download various versions of Robbolito from various places. It takes about 10 seconds to find one. Yours is a windmill battle based on dubious reasoning.
Laissez faire laissez passer.

Regards,
we took this position early on ..weeks ago
even though it is now widely available we stay with that position
since it is now widely available..i guess they dont need to come here to get it
one thing that both sides to this debate agree on Gabor...the mods are always wrong
:P
Steve
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SzG wrote:
I did not say you were wrong. You don't need this... take a break. Spare yourself this burden....

Excellent Idea!
<------Gone Fishing Regards
Steve
:P
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The Foolish Thing To Do......

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Karmazen & Oliver
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Re: About "Double standard" & about clones an

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SzG wrote:
Steve B wrote:
SzG wrote:
Steve B wrote:Sorry Oliver
i had to remove the link you gave in your inital post
we received a complaint that it contained a link to the site where the engine can be downloaded

please do not post another link
Best Regards
Steve
Steve, I don't think it makes sense. Anyone can download various versions of Robbolito from various places. It takes about 10 seconds to find one. Yours is a windmill battle based on dubious reasoning.
Laissez faire laissez passer.

Regards,
we took this position early on ..weeks ago
even though it is now freely available we stay with that position
and if it is freely available they dont need to come here to get it
one thing that both sides to this debate agree on Gabor...the mods are always wrong
:P
Steve
I did not say you were wrong. You don't need this... take a break. Spare yourself this burden... Always on the look-out for a nasty link - to no avail... Pretend you did not notice, you're only human...
insist is wrong, rectify is wise.


It's a losing battle, is a clear positioning for a third-party program private, which has not shown that no time is "illegal", the basic idea, etc ...

apart from that, programmers XXXX robbolito and have created a website and have pint of further improving the software, at least for the numbering of the beta that have given them.

In any case, you vetoed Ippolit manifested by a minnow to the top of the situation, without taking into account that not doing so ever with any previous engine in the forum.

/ RobboLito is another name, another better engine, no post unmoderated robbolito exits in talkingchess about, what it is still a double standard.

I do not serve it they to let go, as if it was human error, I used what I do is stop the hypocrisy, and call things by their name.

bye... & 0.085d beta regards,

oliver.
PD: Besides, I look forward rybka 4, to congratulate the developers ....

I hope that in future we will see XXXX in phoenix chess computer, if one core can bite as hard to a dual core, there is clearly room for improvement...
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Enjoy The Silence

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When was the last engine that got released that was 3000 elo on its first release?

Do you think such a thing is possible? If so, what percentage?

We better check that......the 0.000000001% chance that its ok.

But forget about strength......let's see it for what it is.

A 3000 elo engine with huge bugs. Are the bugs in technical things?

No.

They are in the superficial. Tell me Oliver, how is it you can invent a Lamborghini and forget the wheels?

I'd really like to know this.........I really would.

Want some more music?

Of course you do. I was planing to post this behind a very big troll, but you are not one of them. I know what you mean Oliver, but if you consider the facts.......there is NO way that the whole thing adds up.

It stinks, but its out there. If they were after acceptance, they failed.....badly.

Music.....we really need more music.......

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1rdfFroO67g

http://www.elyrics.net/read/d/depeche-m ... yrics.html

To post or not to post......

Nice video btw.

Cool, more important is chess, not politics.

Regards

Christopher