Tool to create test suites?

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David Dahlem
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Re: Tool to create test suites?

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Christopher Conkie wrote:
David Dahlem wrote:Naturally, i want positions and moves that make good test positions. I'm sure i read about such a tool in the last few days, but can't find it now. Perhaps it was in one of the deleted threads, but i'm still looking.
No. For sure it's not in there. There is only napalm in there.

Here.....?

http://remi.coulom.free.fr/
I've read through all the threads from the last few days, and for sure can't find the post i'm looking for. I thought i knew which thread it was in, but it appears to vanished into thin air. And you're right, i had to tippytoe around a lot of namalm. :lol:

At http://remi.coulom.free.fr/ there is pgn2epd, but it also converts all moves in a pgn, although it does output the moves, unlike pgn2fen.
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Re: Tool to create test suites?

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David Dahlem wrote:
Christopher Conkie wrote:
David Dahlem wrote:Naturally, i want positions and moves that make good test positions. I'm sure i read about such a tool in the last few days, but can't find it now. Perhaps it was in one of the deleted threads, but i'm still looking.
No. For sure it's not in there. There is only napalm in there.

Here.....?

http://remi.coulom.free.fr/
I've read through all the threads from the last few days, and for sure can't find the post i'm looking for. I thought i knew which thread it was in, but it appears to vanished into thin air. And you're right, i had to tippytoe around a lot of namalm. :lol:

At http://remi.coulom.free.fr/ there is pgn2epd, but it also converts all moves in a pgn, although it does output the moves, unlike pgn2fen.
Hi David,

as far as I know there is or was a built in functionality in Arena that it stores a position in a file when there is a significant score change afterwards. I have never used it but I believe it's there. Maybe something similar exists that takes a look through the winboard.debug to produce similar output, don't know.

Greets, Thomas
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Re: Tool to create test suites?

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David Dahlem wrote:I recall reading a post about a tool that would parse a pgn collection and select moves to create a test suite. But i don't remember which thread it was in, and i can't find it again.

Can anyone refresh my memory, or advise of such a tool?

Thanks
Dave
I guess what you are looking for is Thomas McBurney's GameAnalyser.exe:
http://home.pacific.net.au/~tommyinoz/gameanalyser.html

This tool assumes that the games have annotations like those made with Arena etc. which store the analysis information along with the moves made.
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It might be related to the Tarrash GUI that a local New Zealander developed.Bill Forster also developed a PGN mining tool that could find sudden jumps in a computer engine's evaluation.But he had not fully perfected it because alot of the times it was just a straight out blunder which does not make a good test position.I will try to find a link.
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Re: Tool to create test suites?

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David Dahlem wrote:Naturally, i want positions and moves that make good test positions. I'm sure i read about such a tool in the last few days, but can't find it now. Perhaps it was in one of the deleted threads, but i'm still looking.
ChessGUI automatically generates them while engines are playing.

Matthias.
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Re: Tool to create test suites?

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Matthias Gemuh wrote:
David Dahlem wrote:Naturally, i want positions and moves that make good test positions. I'm sure i read about such a tool in the last few days, but can't find it now. Perhaps it was in one of the deleted threads, but i'm still looking.
ChessGUI automatically generates them while engines are playing.

Matthias.
Thanks Matthias, i'll check out ChessGUI.

Dave
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Re: Tool to create test suites?

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David Dahlem wrote:
Matthias Gemuh wrote:
David Dahlem wrote:Naturally, i want positions and moves that make good test positions. I'm sure i read about such a tool in the last few days, but can't find it now. Perhaps it was in one of the deleted threads, but i'm still looking.
ChessGUI automatically generates them while engines are playing.

Matthias.
Thanks Matthias, i'll check out ChessGUI.

Dave
The file is GM_Moves.epd in folder GUI_DATA.
There are options about the testsuite that you can set in GUI.

Matthias.
My engine was quite strong till I added knowledge to it.
http://www.chess.hylogic.de