Rybka's magic settings...I think I 've found them

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Re: Rybka's magic settings...I think I 've found them

Post by Dr.Wael Deeb »

S.Taylor wrote:If this puts Rybka 4 greatly stronger in elo etc. than the best programs or clones of now, in THEIR best known settings, and is good in different timings, then I'm ending my wait-and-see policy, and ordering it asap.
An excellent estimation Shirom....the same thought striked my mind....
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Re: Rybka's magic settings...I think I 've found them

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Some games I really enjoyed watching...

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[Event "RVH-5"]
[Site "Microsoft"]
[Date "2010.06.11"]
[Round "98.1"]
[White "Houdini 1.01 x64 4_CPU"]
[Black "Deep Rybka 4 x64"]
[Result "0-1"]
[ECO "A48"]
[Annotator "0.04;-0.03"]
[PlyCount "238"]
[EventDate "2010.06.10"]
[EventType "tourn"]
[TimeControl "180"]

{Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU    Q9550  @ 2.83GHz 4394 MHz  W=15.0 plies; 2,
345kN/s; Engine2.ctg  B=14.3 plies; 243kN/s; 42 TBAs; Engine2.ctg} 1. d4 {B 0}
Nf6 {B 0} 2. Nf3 {B 0} g6 {B 0} 3. Bf4 {B 0} Bg7 {B 0} 4. e3 {B 0} O-O {B 0} 5.
h3 {B 0} d6 {B 0} 6. Be2 {B 0} c5 {B 0} 7. c3 {B 0} b6 {B 0} 8. O-O {B 0} Bb7 {
B 0} 9. Nbd2 {B 0} Nbd7 {B 0} 10. Bh2 {B 0} Qc7 {B 0} 11. a4 {B 0} a6 {B 0} 12.
Qb1 {B 0} Qc6 {B 0} 13. Qc2 {0.04/17 6} Rfe8 {-0.03/13 5 (b5)} 14. Qb3 {0.08/
16 3 (Rfe1)} Rad8 {0.00/13 8 (Rac8)} 15. Rfe1 {0.12/15 3 (Rfd1)} e5 {0.05/13 5}
16. dxe5 {0.17/16 3} Nxe5 {0.17/15 6} 17. Rad1 {0.19/18 3} Re6 {0.10/15 2 
(Nfd7)} 18. e4 {0.15/17 3} Qc7 {0.21/14 3} 19. Ng5 {0.14/17 2 (Nc4)} Re7 {0.00/
14 4} 20. Bc4 {0.16/13 2 (Nc4)} Rde8 {0.10/13 4 (Bh6)} 21. Bxe5 {0.20/12 3}
dxe5 {0.01/13 0} 22. f3 {0.20/12 2 (Nxf7)} Bc6 {-0.08/15 5 (Bf8)} 23. Nxf7 {0.
18/10 2} Rxf7 {0.00/16 2} 24. Bxf7+ {0.18/9 0} Qxf7 {0.00/17 0} 25. Qxf7+ {0.
26/16 2} Kxf7 {0.00/17 0} 26. Nc4 {0.26/15 0} Bf8 {-0.07/17 2 (Ke7)} 27. Nxb6 {
0.15/17 3 (Rd6)} Rb8 {-0.02/16 3} 28. Nc4 {0.13/20 2} Ke6 {-0.02/17 4} 29. b3 {
0.13/21 6} Be7 {-0.02/17 3} 30. Rb1 {0.15/20 2 (g3)} Ne8 {-0.02/18 5} 31. Ne3 {
0.13/20 5 (Kf2)} Bg5 {-0.03/16 3 (Nd6)} 32. Kf2 {0.15/20 3} Nd6 {0.00/16 4} 33.
Ke2 {0.15/20 3} Rd8 {0.00/15 2 (Bxe3)} 34. c4 {0.30/11 2} Rb8 {0.00/16 3} 35.
Nd5 {0.28/17 2} Rb7 {0.01/15 3 (Bd8)} 36. g3 {0.33/12 2} Kf7 {0.07/15 3 (Bd8)}
37. Red1 {0.32/18 2 (Nc3)} Ke6 {0.08/17 3 (Ne8)} 38. Nc3 {0.33/19 10} Be7 {0.
07/16 1} 39. h4 {0.32/19 2 (Rd3)} Bd7 {0.10/15 6 (Be8)} 40. Kf2 {0.33/13 4 
(Ke3)} Be8 {0.08/16 3 (Bd8)} 41. Rd3 {0.40/12 1 (Rd5)} Bf8 {0.12/17 6 (h6)} 42.
Kg2 {0.36/11 3 (Ke3)} Bc6 {0.08/17 7} 43. Kh2 {0.34/11 2 (Kg1)} Ne8 {0.00/15 4
(Be7)} 44. Rdd1 {0.03/16 2 (Kg1)} Kf7 {-0.11/17 3} 45. Rf1 {0.00/15 7 (Kg2)}
Nc7 {-0.16/16 2 (Bd6)} 46. f4 {0.04/14 4} Bg7 {-0.16/16 2} 47. f5 {0.04/12 4}
gxf5 {-0.16/16 2} 48. Rxf5+ {-0.02/15 1} Ke7 {-0.18/16 1} 49. Rf3 {-0.03/13 1 
(Rff1)} Ne6 {-0.17/17 3} 50. Nd5+ {-0.03/17 2 (g4)} Ke8 {-0.17/15 2} 51. Rf2 {
-0.03/14 1 (a5)} a5 {-0.17/14 2 (Nd4)} 52. Nc3 {-0.03/17 1 (Rfb2)} h5 {-0.50/
13 2 (Nd4)} 53. Rf5 {-0.16/17 2 (Rg2)} Nd4 {-0.31/13 1} 54. Rf2 {-0.17/18 1 
(Rxh5)} Ke7 {-0.50/16 2} 55. Kg2 {-0.17/15 1} Rb8 {-0.50/15 2 (Ke6)} 56. Ra2 {
-0.16/11 1 (Kh2)} Ke6 {-0.50/15 2 (Kd6)} 57. Rf2 {-0.21/17 1} Rb4 {-0.50/16 1 
(Be8)} 58. Rfb2 {-0.17/12 1} Rb7 {-0.50/16 1 (Bd7)} 59. Rf2 {-0.17/13 1 (Nd5)}
Be8 {-0.50/17 1 (Bd7)} 60. Rfb2 {-0.20/14 3 (Kh3)} Kf6 {-0.51/16 3 (Bg6)} 61.
Nd5+ {-0.20/12 2 (Rf1+)} Kg6 {-0.51/16 1} 62. Rf1 {-0.23/16 1 (Nc3)} Bd7 {-0.
51/15 1 (Kh7)} 63. Rff2 {-0.23/18 2 (Nc3)} Bc6 {-0.51/15 2 (Kh7)} 64. Kh2 {-0.
23/17 1 (Rb1)} Kh6 {-0.51/16 1 (Be8)} 65. Nc3 {-0.20/12 1 (Kg2)} Be8 {-0.51/15
1 (Kh7)} 66. Rf1 {-0.23/18 1 (Kg2)} Kg6 {-0.59/16 2 (Kh7)} 67. Kg2 {-0.23/17 1}
Bd7 {-0.59/17 1 (Bh6)} 68. Rfb1 {-0.23/17 1 (Rd1)} Bg4 {-0.61/18 2 (Bh6)} 69.
Rf1 {-0.23/14 4} Rd7 {-0.61/17 1 (Bh6)} 70. Rd2 {-0.23/14 1 (Rbf2)} Bh6 {-0.61/
17 1} 71. Rb2 {-0.32/16 1} Bf3+ {-0.61/17 1 (Kg7)} 72. Kh2 {-0.36/20 1} Bg7 {
-0.61/16 1 (Kg7)} 73. Rff2 {-0.32/18 1 (Rbf2)} Bg4 {-0.76/14 1 (Rb7)} 74. Kh1 {
-0.32/16 1} Bh6 {-0.86/15 1} 75. Rf1 {-0.32/14 1 (Kg2)} Nf3 {-1.05/15 2 (Bh3)}
76. Nd5 {-0.20/11 1} Kg7 {-1.05/16 0 (Rb7)} 77. Rff2 {-0.47/11 1} Ra7 {-1.17/
15 1 (Rb7)} 78. Rfe2 {-0.57/15 1} Bc1 {-1.46/15 0} 79. Ra2 {-0.57/13 0} Nd4 {
-1.46/14 0} 80. Re1 {-0.74/16 1} Nxb3 {-1.49/14 0} 81. Rf1 {-0.80/17 1} Bh6 {
-1.53/13 0} 82. Rff2 {-0.75/15 1} Nd4 {-1.56/13 0} 83. Kg2 {-0.86/18 1} Bd1 {
-1.56/13 0} 84. Nf6 {-0.86/18 0} Bb3 {-1.71/12 0 (Bf3+)} 85. Rab2 {-0.85/12 7 
(Ne8+)} Kg6 {-1.57/12 0} 86. Ne8 {-0.80/14 0} Ra6 {-1.60/14 0 (Re7)} 87. Nc7 {
-0.70/16 0} Rc6 {-1.60/13 0 (Rd6)} 88. Nd5 {-0.84/18 1} Re6 {-1.56/14 0} 89.
Nc7 {-0.70/16 0} Rd6 {-1.56/14 0} 90. Nb5 {-0.79/17 1 (Rf5)} Rb6 {-1.56/10 0}
91. Nc7 {-0.69/16 0} Bg7 {-1.61/11 0} 92. Nd5 {-0.96/17 2} Re6 {-1.61/12 0} 93.
Rf5 {-0.96/17 1 (Nc7)} Bc2 {-1.75/12 1 (Bxc4)} 94. Rg5+ {-0.96/12 0} Kh6 {-1.
75/13 0} 95. Nc3 {-0.96/16 0 (Rb7)} Rd6 {-1.76/12 1 (Bb3)} 96. g4 {-0.92/11 5}
hxg4 {-1.76/12 0} 97. Rxg4 {-1.13/11 3} Bd3 {-1.75/12 0} 98. Rb7 {-1.20/11 2}
Bf6 {-1.75/11 0} 99. Nd5 {-1.13/11 2} Bxc4 {-1.87/11 0 (Be2)} 100. Nxf6 {-1.13/
13 0} Rxf6 {-1.87/8 0} 101. Rb8 {-1.13/14 1 (Rgg7)} Kh7 {-1.54/12 0 (Kh5)} 102.
Rb7+ {-0.84/13 0} Bf7 {-1.50/13 0} 103. Rg3 {-0.91/13 0} Kh6 {-1.50/12 0} 104.
Rc7 {-1.01/14 0} c4 {-1.62/12 0} 105. Rc5 {-0.99/13 0} Rc6 {-1.67/10 0 (Bg6)}
106. Rxc6+ {-1.05/14 0} Nxc6 {-1.67/1 0} 107. Kg1 {-1.14/16 0 (Kf2)} Kh5 {-2.
13/13 0 (Nb4)} 108. Kf2 {-1.23/15 0} Nb4 {-2.27/14 0 (Kxh4)} 109. Ke2 {-1.23/
14 0 (Rf3)} Na2 {-2.99/11 0 (Kxh4)} 110. Kd2 {-1.91/14 0} Be8 {-2.99/8 0 (c3+)}
111. Kc2 {-2.05/14 0 (Rg2)} Bxa4+ {-3.93/9 0 (c3)} 112. Kb2 {-2.86/14 0} Bb3 {
-4.05/12 0} 113. Rg8 {-3.01/14 0 (Rg5+)} a4 {-5.98/13 0 (Kxh4)} 114. Ka3 {-3.
30/15 0} Kxh4 {-5.98/16 0} 115. Rg7 {-4.28/17 1 (Rg1)} c3 {-8.55/1 0 (Nc3)}
116. Rg4+ {-6.32/14 0} Kh5 {-8.55/1 0} 117. Rg5+ {-7.29/15 0} Kh6 {-8.55/11 0}
118. Rh5+ {-7.29/15 1 (Rg6+)} Kg6 {-12.56/13 0 (Kg7)} 119. Rh6+ {-8.11/15 0}
Kg5 {-12.56/13 0 (Kg7)} 0-1
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jix

Re: Rybka's magic settings...I think I 've found them

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[Event "RVH-4"]
[Site "Microsoft"]
[Date "2010.06.10"]
[Round "11.1"]
[White "Deep Rybka 4 x64"]
[Black "Houdini 1.01 x64 4_CPU"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "B91"]
[Annotator "0.53;0.21"]
[PlyCount "117"]
[EventDate "2010.06.10"]
[EventType "tourn"]
[TimeControl "180"]

{Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU    Q9550  @ 2.83GHz 4394 MHz  W=15.0 plies; 145kN/
s; 1,567 TBAs; Engine2.ctg  B=14.2 plies; 427kN/s; Engine2.ctg} 1. e4 {B 0} c5
{B 0} 2. Nf3 {B 0} d6 {B 0} 3. d4 {B 0} cxd4 {B 0} 4. Nxd4 {B 0} Nf6 {B 0} 5.
Nc3 {B 0} a6 {B 0} 6. g3 {B 0} e5 {B 0} 7. Nb3 {B 0} Be7 {B 0} 8. Bg2 {B 0} O-O
{B 0} 9. O-O {B 0} b5 {B 0} 10. a4 {B 0} Bb7 {B 0} 11. axb5 {B 0} axb5 {B 0}
12. Rxa8 {B 0} Bxa8 {B 0} 13. Qd3 {B 0} b4 {B 0} 14. Nd5 {B 0} Nxd5 {B 0} 15.
exd5 {B 0} Bb7 {0.21/14 4} 16. Re1 {0.53/15 4 (Qe4)} Qc7 {0.28/15 3} 17. Be3 {
0.65/14 0} Nd7 {0.28/16 2 (f5)} 18. Ra1 {0.91/14 4} f5 {0.42/16 25} 19. Ra7 {
0.96/17 0 (Ra4)} f4 {0.68/13 4} 20. gxf4 {0.98/17 0} exf4 {0.68/12 2} 21. Bd4 {
0.98/17 0} Ra8 {0.66/12 5 (Bf6)} 22. Rxa8+ {1.26/15 7 (Qe4)} Bxa8 {0.56/9 5}
23. Qe4 {1.26/17 0} Bf6 {0.66/13 2} 24. Qe6+ {1.26/15 1} Kf8 {0.69/13 1} 25.
Qf5 {1.16/14 1} h6 {0.76/14 4} 26. Bxf6 {1.26/15 0} Nxf6 {0.64/14 5} 27. Nd4 {
1.26/15 0} Qf7 {0.63/15 2} 28. Qc8+ {1.32/15 24 (Ne6+)} Qe8 {0.69/15 5} 29.
Ne6+ {1.32/15 0} Kf7 {0.63/15 2} 30. Qc4 {1.32/16 0} g5 {0.63/15 2 (Qe7)} 31.
h4 {1.20/12 2} f3 {0.66/15 2} 32. Bxf3 {1.31/13 0} gxh4 {0.72/13 2} 33. Qf4 {
1.43/14 18 (Kg2)} Ke7 {0.66/13 3} 34. Nc7 {1.43/13 0} Qg6+ {0.66/13 4} 35. Kf1
{1.58/13 0} Qxc2 {0.63/14 2 (Bb7)} 36. Nxa8 {1.67/14 10} Qxb2 {0.56/17 0} 37.
Qe3+ {1.67/15 1} Kf7 {0.83/17 18} 38. Nc7 {1.75/17 0} Qb1+ {0.71/16 2} 39. Kg2
{1.68/17 0} Qg6+ {0.71/15 1} 40. Kh2 {1.68/16 0} Qg5 {0.71/16 2} 41. Qe6+ {1.
80/15 3 (Nb5)} Kg6 {0.59/14 3} 42. Be4+ {1.96/14 0} Kg7 {0.78/14 2} 43. Bf5 {
2.01/15 0 (Ne8+)} b3 {0.20/11 3 (Qf4+)} 44. Kh3 {2.46/14 2 (Qe7+)} b2 {0.69/12
2} 45. Qc8 {3.84/14 0 (Bb1)} Kf7 {0.33/8 1} 46. Nb5 {3.94/13 0} Qh5 {2.72/10
13 (Kg7)} 47. Nd4 {4.98/13 2 (Qb7+)} b1=Q {4.43/14 2} 48. Qe6+ {5.10/14 0} Kg7
{4.43/15 0} 49. Bxb1 {5.10/14 0} Qe5 {4.83/16 2} 50. Nf5+ {5.58/16 0} Kf8 {5.
00/17 2} 51. Nxd6 {5.61/17 0 (Nxh6)} Qxe6+ {4.28/12 0} 52. dxe6 {5.61/17 0} Ke7
{5.16/16 1} 53. Nf5+ {5.61/15 1} Kxe6 {5.66/18 1} 54. Nxh6 {5.61/16 0} Kd7 {5.
66/18 1 (Nd5)} 55. f4 {7.19/17 8 (Kxh4)} Nd5 {6.28/14 8} 56. f5 {7.58/19 0} Nb6
{6.60/13 6 (Nc3)} 57. Kxh4 {11.31/16 3} Ke7 {6.85/18 0 (Nd5)} 58. Kg5 {11.61/
11 0} Nd5 {6.85/16 0 (Kf8)} 59. Ng4 {12.78/13 1 (Bd3)} 1-0
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ArmyBridge

Re: Rybka's magic settings...I think I 've found them

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jix wrote:Time Controls: 3/2
Hardware: Q9550 @ 4.4
Tablebases: 3/4/5
PB: Off

This is the 2nd tournament I've run with these settings, the first of which had a slightly higher score. Some of the games Rybka was down as much as 2.00 but would some how end up going into endgame equal or winning!

If anyone is interested in the games I will upload them

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1 Deep Rybka 4 x64	     +54/=37/-9	72.50%   72.5/100
2 Houdini 1.01 x64 4_CPU  +9/=37/-54	27.50%   27.5/100
Hi I wonder how dou u get the value for the pieces from the games?? sorry I´m Dummie :oops: but Í would likte to know how to do it for extrac the values for other players like Kasparov, Alekhine etc, could you explain me how do I do? Tnx in advance!!!

Regards 8-)
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Re: Rybka's magic settings...I think I 've found them

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jix wrote:Time Controls: 3/2
Hardware: Q9550 @ 4.4
Tablebases: 3/4/5
PB: Off

This is the 2nd tournament I've run with these settings, the first of which had a slightly higher score. Some of the games Rybka was down as much as 2.00 but would some how end up going into endgame equal or winning!

If anyone is interested in the games I will upload them

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1 Deep Rybka 4 x64	     +54/=37/-9	72.50%   72.5/100
2 Houdini 1.01 x64 4_CPU  +9/=37/-54	27.50%   27.5/100
Hi

Can you please upload the games ?

Damir
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Re: Rybka's magic settings...I think I 've found them

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Albert Silver wrote:
jix wrote:TC Buffer: 3
TC Normal Move Time: 72
TC Max Move Time: 115
White Pawn cp: 10
Black Pawn cp: 10
White Knight cp: 40
Black Knight cp: 40
White King Bishop cp: 50
Black King Bishop cp: 50
White Queen Bishop cp: 45
Black Queen Bishop cp: 45
White Rook cp: 65
Black Rook cp: 65
White Queen cp: 110
Black Queen cp: 110
Rook Endgame Scaling: 100
Thanks, I'll check it out. BTW, just so you know: In increment games the TC Buffer is ignored.
Albert, i will try these settings, except with your TC settings ...
TC Normal Move Time: 100
TC Max Move Time: 150

Personality name = R4 Silver Magic :idea:
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pixie dust

Re: Rybka's magic settings...I think I 've found them

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never mind the games lets see these "magical settings " and test them our selves ...without pixie dust sprinled over rykba of course :)
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Re: Rybka's magic settings...I think I 've found them

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David Dahlem wrote:
Albert Silver wrote:
jix wrote:TC Buffer: 3
TC Normal Move Time: 72
TC Max Move Time: 115
White Pawn cp: 10
Black Pawn cp: 10
White Knight cp: 40
Black Knight cp: 40
White King Bishop cp: 50
Black King Bishop cp: 50
White Queen Bishop cp: 45
Black Queen Bishop cp: 45
White Rook cp: 65
Black Rook cp: 65
White Queen cp: 110
Black Queen cp: 110
Rook Endgame Scaling: 100
Thanks, I'll check it out. BTW, just so you know: In increment games the TC Buffer is ignored.
Albert, i will try these settings, except with your TC settings ...
TC Normal Move Time: 100
TC Max Move Time: 150

Personality name = R4 Silver Magic :idea:
Just remember that the 100/150 settings are for repeating TCs.
"Tactics are the bricks and sticks that make up a game, but positional play is the architectural blueprint."
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David Dahlem
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Re: Rybka's magic settings...I think I 've found them

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Albert Silver wrote:
David Dahlem wrote:
Albert Silver wrote:
jix wrote:TC Buffer: 3
TC Normal Move Time: 72
TC Max Move Time: 115
White Pawn cp: 10
Black Pawn cp: 10
White Knight cp: 40
Black Knight cp: 40
White King Bishop cp: 50
Black King Bishop cp: 50
White Queen Bishop cp: 45
Black Queen Bishop cp: 45
White Rook cp: 65
Black Rook cp: 65
White Queen cp: 110
Black Queen cp: 110
Rook Endgame Scaling: 100
Thanks, I'll check it out. BTW, just so you know: In increment games the TC Buffer is ignored.
Albert, i will try these settings, except with your TC settings ...
TC Normal Move Time: 100
TC Max Move Time: 150

Personality name = R4 Silver Magic :idea:
Just remember that the 100/150 settings are for repeating TCs.
Yes, i know. I will test at repeating TCs.
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Re: Rybka's magic settings...I think I 've found them

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jix wrote:TC Buffer: 3
TC Normal Move Time: 72
TC Max Move Time: 115
White Pawn cp: 10
Black Pawn cp: 10
White Knight cp: 40
Black Knight cp: 40
White King Bishop cp: 50
Black King Bishop cp: 50
White Queen Bishop cp: 45
Black Queen Bishop cp: 45
White Rook cp: 65
Black Rook cp: 65
White Queen cp: 110
Black Queen cp: 110
Rook Endgame Scaling: 100
My first question is why is the c1-bishop worth less than the f1-bishop?
"Tactics are the bricks and sticks that make up a game, but positional play is the architectural blueprint."
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