TBOC 5 : very long time cont tour with new komodo hiarcs

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Re: TBOC 5 : very long time cont tour with new komodo hiarcs

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Another nice tournament Andi.
Is there any reason why you're not using Deep Rybka 4.1 or Stockfish 2.3.1?

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Re: TBOC 5 : very long time cont tour with new komodo hiarcs

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Hi,

yes the reasons are:

1.) i don't have Rybka 4.1
2.) at the time i started this tour the best SF versions was the 2.2.2....

Regards
Andi
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Re: TBOC 5 : very long time cont tour with new komodo hiarcs

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Alibaba wrote:Hi,

yes the reasons are:

1.) i don't have Rybka 4.1
2.) at the time i started this tour the best SF versions was the 2.2.2....

Regards
Andi
No problem. Not a criticism.
I'd thought that Rybka 4.1 was a free update, but I was obviously wrong.
Stockfish 2.2.2 is pretty much the same strength as 2.3.1, so not much lost there.
Keep up the great tournaments.

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Re: TBOC 5 : very long time cont tour with new komodo hiarcs

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Alibaba wrote:Hi,

yes the reasons are:

1.) i don't have Rybka 4.1
2.) at the time i started this tour the best SF versions was the 2.2.2....

Regards
Andi
The upgrade R4 to 4.1 is free : http://rybkaforum.net/cgi-bin/rybkaforu ... ?tid=21098
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Re: TBOC 5 : very long time cont tour with new komodo hiarcs

Post by Alibaba »

Hi,

after 6 rounds here is the latest table:

TBOC_5 2012

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8
1 Houdini 1.5a x64 ** 1 ½ 1 ½ ½ ½ 4.0/6 12.25
2 Komodo 5 64-bit 0 ** ½ ½ 1 1 1 4.0/6 9.75
3 Critter 1.6a 64-bit ½ ** ½ ½ ½ ½ 1 3.5/6
4 Deep HIARCS 14 WCSC 0 ½ ½ ** ½ 1 ½ 3.0/6
5 Deep Rybka 4 x64 ½ ½ ½ ** ½ 0 ½ 2.5/6 8.00
6 Stockfish 2.2.2 JA SSE42 ½ 0 ½ ½ ½ ** ½ 2.5/6 7.75
7 Deep Fritz 13 0 ½ 0 1 ½ ** ½ 2.5/6 6.50
8 Deep Junior 13.3 ½ 0 0 ½ ½ ½ ** 2.0/6

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Andi
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Re: TBOC 5 : very long time cont tour with new komodo hiarcs

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Alibaba wrote:Hi,

after 6 rounds here is the latest table:

TBOC_5 2012

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8
1 Houdini 1.5a x64 ** 1 ½ 1 ½ ½ ½ 4.0/6 12.25
2 Komodo 5 64-bit 0 ** ½ ½ 1 1 1 4.0/6 9.75
3 Critter 1.6a 64-bit ½ ** ½ ½ ½ ½ 1 3.5/6
4 Deep HIARCS 14 WCSC 0 ½ ½ ** ½ 1 ½ 3.0/6
5 Deep Rybka 4 x64 ½ ½ ½ ** ½ 0 ½ 2.5/6 8.00
6 Stockfish 2.2.2 JA SSE42 ½ 0 ½ ½ ½ ** ½ 2.5/6 7.75
7 Deep Fritz 13 0 ½ 0 1 ½ ** ½ 2.5/6 6.50
8 Deep Junior 13.3 ½ 0 0 ½ ½ ½ ** 2.0/6

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Andi
Wow, Komodo is tied for the lead giving everyone else 2 cores to 1 handicap! That's a great result.
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Re: TBOC 5 : very long time cont tour with new komodo hiarcs

Post by Alibaba »

Hi,

yes the performance of Komodo 5 at this very long time controls is really impressive....

after 7 rounds, here is the new table:

TBOC_5 2012

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8
1 Houdini 1.5a x64 ** 1 ½ 1 ½ ½ ½ ½ 4.5/7 16.00
2 Komodo 5 64-bit 0 ** ½ ½ 1 1 ½ 1 4.5/7 13.75
3 Critter 1.6a 64-bit ½ ½ ** ½ ½ ½ ½ 1 4.0/7 13.25
4 Deep HIARCS 14 WCSC 0 ½ ½ ** ½ 1 1 ½ 4.0/7 12.50
5 Stockfish 2.2.2 JA SSE42 ½ 0 ½ ½ ** ½ ½ ½ 3.0/7 10.25
6 Deep Fritz 13 ½ 0 ½ 0 ½ ** 1 ½ 3.0/7 9.50
7 Deep Rybka 4 x64 ½ ½ ½ 0 ½ 0 ** ½ 2.5/7 9.25
8 Deep Junior 13.3 ½ 0 0 ½ ½ ½ ½ ** 2.5/7 8.50

Regards
Andi
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Re: TBOC 5 : very long time cont tour with new komodo hiarcs

Post by Alibaba »

Hi,

lets have a look to the fine play of the komodo engine in the game vs DF 13.

[Event "TBOC_5"]
[Site "?"]
[Date "2012.09.01"]
[Round "1.1"]
[White "Deep Fritz 13"]
[Black "Komodo 5 64-bit"]
[Result "0-1"]
[ECO "C89"]
[Annotator "0.40;0.24"]
[PlyCount "152"]
[EventDate "2012.08.31"]
[EventType "tourn"]
[Source "Wutzke"]

{Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-2600 CPU @ 3.40GHz 3411 MHz W=28.4 plies; 7.098kN/s; 25.
261.436 TBAs B=27.4 plies; 2.067kN/s} 1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bb5 a6 4. Ba4 Nf6
5. O-O Be7 6. Re1 b5 7. Bb3 O-O 8. c3 d5 9. exd5 {0.40/28 487} Nxd5 {0.24/21 61
} 10. Nxe5 {0.41/27 146} Nxe5 {0.24/25 44} 11. Rxe5 {0.41/26 141} c6 {0.21/26
73} 12. Re1 {0.54/23 186 (d4)} Bd6 {0.33/26 555 (Lf5)} 13. d4 {0.62/25 370} Qh4
{0.31/26 242} 14. g3 {0.61/29 24} Qh3 {0.32/24 52} 15. Bxd5 {0.54/28 232 (De2)}
cxd5 {0.13/24 42} 16. Qf3 {0.57/30 399} Bf5 {0.13/29 206 (Df5)} 17. Qxd5 {0.61/
30 301} Rfe8 {0.13/29 378 (Tae8)} 18. Bd2 {0.32/28 627} Rad8 {0.13/28 395} 19.
Qf3 {0.25/29 536 (Sa3)} Be6 {0.13/27 421} 20. Na3 {0.21/27 5 (a4)} Bf8 {0.01/
28 816} 21. Qg2 {0.21/31 0} Qh5 {-0.06/28 672 (Df5)} 22. f4 {0.11/26 319 (Te5)}
Bf5 {-0.17/27 963 (Ld5)} 23. Rac1 {0.00/26 293 (Te5)} Qg6 {-0.21/23 120} 24.
Re5 {0.00/29 316 (Df2)} f6 {-0.37/27 630 (Le4)} 25. Rxe8 {0.00/31 443} Rxe8 {
-0.37/28 9} 26. Re1 {0.00/31 431} Rxe1+ {-0.28/28 45 (Le4)} 27. Bxe1 {0.00/30
84} Qf7 {-0.35/27 60 (De8)} 28. b4 {0.00/29 308} Qe6 {-0.34/29 172} 29. Qd2 {
0.00/32 163} Qe4 {-0.37/27 112} 30. Qf2 {0.00/33 348} g6 {-0.40/28 0 (Le6)} 31.
Bd2 {0.00/32 677} Kf7 {-0.40/29 123} 32. Be1 {0.00/32 448} h5 {-0.39/29 287
(Kg8)} 33. h4 {0.00/31 429 (Ld2)} Be7 {-0.42/28 461 (Le6)} 34. Bd2 {-0.21/25
309} Be6 {-0.29/28 1621} 35. Qe1 {-0.07/32 0 (Dg2)} Qf3 {-0.24/30 917 (Df5)}
36. Qe3 {-0.08/31 467} Qxe3+ {-0.24/31 194 (Dd5)} 37. Bxe3 {0.00/32 45} Bxa2 {
-0.24/27 9} 38. Bd2 {-0.05/34 328 (Kf2)} Ke6 {-0.37/31 340 (Lb3)} 39. Kf2 {-0.
05/35 345} Kd5 {-0.31/29 45 (Lb3)} 40. Ke3 {-0.05/33 316} g5 {-0.46/28 210
(Lb3)} 41. fxg5 {-0.13/31 179} fxg5 {-0.39/32 31} 42. Be1 {-0.15/32 162} g4 {
-0.41/33 294} 43. Nc2 {-0.17/37 0} Bd6 {-0.41/34 354 (Lf8)} 44. Ke2 {-0.17/37
169 (Kd3)} Bc4+ {-0.34/34 390 (Ke4)} 45. Ke3 {-0.17/39 216} Bf8 {-0.41/36 172}
46. Kf2 {-0.17/39 132} Ke4 {-0.41/37 29 (Lb3)} 47. Ne3 {-0.28/41 743} Bf7 {-0.
43/38 116 (La2)} 48. Ke2 {-0.28/38 151 (Sg2)} Bd6 {-0.29/36 390} 49. Bf2 {-0.
28/39 0 (Sg2)} Bb3 {-0.30/34 92 (La2)} 50. Be1 {-0.28/39 253} Bc7 {-0.22/35
691 (La2)} 51. Bf2 {-0.28/38 200 (Sg2)} a5 {-0.87/26 34 (Lg8)} 52. bxa5 {-0.28/
37 194} Bxa5 {-0.71/32 17} 53. Be1 {-0.28/38 143} Bb6 {-0.65/33 33 (Lc7)} 54.
Bd2 {-0.29/35 185 (Lf2)} b4 {-1.07/29 76 (Lc7)} 55. Be1 {-0.67/34 179} Ba4 {-1.
08/31 73 (Le6)} 56. cxb4 {-1.62/34 164} Bb5+ {-1.97/31 598 (Lxd4)} 57. Kd2 {-1.
62/38 300} Bxd4 {-2.13/32 581} 58. Ng2 {-1.62/39 0} Be5 {-2.27/30 256 (Kf3)}
59. Kc2 {-1.62/38 248 (Kd1)} Kf3 {-3.47/31 105} 60. Nf4 {-1.62/37 849} Bxf4 {
-7.88/36 196} 61. gxf4 {-11.56/29 0} g3 {-15.13/26 62} 62. Bc3 {-#95/27 809
(Lxg3)} Ke4 {-19.14/26 133} 63. Be1 {-#85/20 17} Kxf4 {-20.98/28 28} 64. Bd2+ {
-#84/20 8} Kf3 {-56.94/27 1063 (Kg4)} 65. Bc3 {-#81/18 7} Kg4 {#1795/23 323
(g2)} 66. Bd4 {-#80/17 9 (Lf6)} Kxh4 {-#21/20 21} 67. Bf6+ {-#70/18 4 (Kc3)}
Kg4 {-#20/19 14} 68. Bh8 {-#64/15 0 (Kc3)} h4 {-#12/19 39 (g2)} 69. Be5 {-#42/
13 0 (Lb2)} h3 {-#11/18 430} 70. Bd6 {-#37/13 0 (Kb3)} h2 {-#10/17 113 (g2)}
71. Kd2 {-#23/11 0 (Lc5)} h1=Q {-#8/17 11} 72. Be7 {-#17/9 0 (Lc5)} Qb1 {-#7/
16 86 (Dh2+)} 73. Kc3 {-#12/8 0 (Lf6)} Qc1+ {-#4/13 27 (De1+)} 74. Kd4 {-#4/9 0
} Kf5 {-#3/14 181} 75. Bd6 {-#2/7 0 (Kd5)} Qc4+ {-#2/13 334} 76. Ke3 {-#1/7 0}
Qd3# {-#1/14 10} 0-1

Regards
Andi
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Re: TBOC 5 : very long time cont tour with new komodo hiarcs

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Alibaba wrote:Hi,

yes the performance of Komodo 5 at this very long time controls is really impressive....

after 7 rounds, here is the new table:

TBOC_5 2012

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8
1 Houdini 1.5a x64 ** 1 ½ 1 ½ ½ ½ ½ 4.5/7 16.00
2 Komodo 5 64-bit 0 ** ½ ½ 1 1 ½ 1 4.5/7 13.75
3 Critter 1.6a 64-bit ½ ½ ** ½ ½ ½ ½ 1 4.0/7 13.25
4 Deep HIARCS 14 WCSC 0 ½ ½ ** ½ 1 1 ½ 4.0/7 12.50
5 Stockfish 2.2.2 JA SSE42 ½ 0 ½ ½ ** ½ ½ ½ 3.0/7 10.25
6 Deep Fritz 13 ½ 0 ½ 0 ½ ** 1 ½ 3.0/7 9.50
7 Deep Rybka 4 x64 ½ ½ ½ 0 ½ 0 ** ½ 2.5/7 9.25
8 Deep Junior 13.3 ½ 0 0 ½ ½ ½ ½ ** 2.5/7 8.50

Regards
Andi
What's the overall White-Black score? I happen to have a special interest in the Marshall Gambit, even though I rarely actually play it. It has always been one of my goals to have Komodo evaluate it properly (with enough analysis) as close to equal, since that is the accepted GM eval for it. So far though I can't get the final minimaxed eval lower than 0.22, which is better than most engines but still higher than I'd like to see.
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Re: TBOC 5 : very long time cont tour with new komodo hiarcs

Post by Alibaba »

Hi Larry,

it might be better to wait until end of the tour to examine the back-white score. At the moment black has 2 more wins.....

by the way, it might be interesting that Junior and Hiarcs evals this position nearly equal, and the main line better for black so they try to avoid playing the main line, but with no good results for white....

Regards
Andi