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Re: Stockfish One Thread Challenge

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Cornfed wrote: Fri Apr 02, 2021 6:23 pm
MikeB wrote: Fri Apr 02, 2021 7:25 am

Perhaps we are at now at a point now where Elo gains will be very slow going from this point forward? If we are, that is not a good thing for computer chess - as far as human play goes, we have a long way to go yet ;>), a few centuries at least. It may mark the end of Correspondence Chess (Computer Assisted, ala ICCF) as we know it today.
The part in red...can you explain?
Or are you trying to say that those humans with the stronger helpers and more $$ to throw at them...will be no better off really than someone with 1 core? 8-)
I do NOT believe that any top engine with 1 core or multiple cores can beat the correspondence ICCF Champion with the help of a least a low 2800 rated engine, there are too many positions that if is not tactical some engines do NOT grab the deep concept until 30 moves later and millions of NPS. As long as the position is NOT tactical the majority of the top engines except Komodo Dragon 1 and 2 miss the strategical point.
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Re: Stockfish One Thread Challenge

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Chessqueen wrote: Wed May 26, 2021 5:44 am
Cornfed wrote: Fri Apr 02, 2021 6:23 pm
MikeB wrote: Fri Apr 02, 2021 7:25 am

Perhaps we are at now at a point now where Elo gains will be very slow going from this point forward? If we are, that is not a good thing for computer chess - as far as human play goes, we have a long way to go yet ;>), a few centuries at least. It may mark the end of Correspondence Chess (Computer Assisted, ala ICCF) as we know it today.
The part in red...can you explain?
Or are you trying to say that those humans with the stronger helpers and more $$ to throw at them...will be no better off really than someone with 1 core? 8-)
I do NOT believe that any top engine with 1 core or multiple cores can beat the correspondence ICCF Champion with the help of a least a low 2800 rated engine, there are too many positions that if is not tactical some engines do NOT grab the deep concept until 30 moves later and millions of NPS. As long as the position is NOT tactical the majority of the top engines except Komodo Dragon 1 and 2 miss the strategical point.
We have computer chess , centaur chess (ICCF) and human chess. Human chess is alive well, so is Centaur chess (ICCF), but plan old computer chess is not as interesting as it was in the 90's, but NN teachhnolgy is helping making it a comeback. Just under 10% of the world play chess, I can not think of any game that has greater worldwide particpation.
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