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Damir
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by Damir » Thu Jun 24, 2021 1:10 pm
AdminX wrote: ↑ Tue Jun 22, 2021 4:52 pm
Thanks for the news on this. I checked my email and did receive a link with discounted price (15$ USD).
Just received the link. That was fast, look forward to testing it out.
Hi Ted
Can you tell me how long it took for you to receive the download link after purchasing the engine?
I have checked my mail and still no download link, only a mail from paypal confirming my Chiron 5 buy... but no download link....
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by Damir » Thu Jun 24, 2021 1:36 pm
Got the link already.. sorry for the incovinience and my impatience.
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by mclane » Thu Jun 24, 2021 9:20 pm
Can somebody tell me something about the engine ? Origin ? Idea behind it ?!
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by Damir » Thu Jun 24, 2021 9:26 pm
You can read more about it here:
https://www.chironchess.com/
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by sarona » Thu Jun 24, 2021 11:08 pm
Damir wrote: ↑ Thu Jun 24, 2021 1:36 pm
. . . sorry for the incovinience and my impatience.
. I actually kept checking my emal client waiting for the link, too! My wife thought I was nuts. .
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by AdminX » Fri Jun 25, 2021 3:19 am
I enabled Large Pages (Chiron 5) and Used 8 Threads (Both Engines) for this last match. 50 Games, Time Control 5'3. Chiron 5 appears to be stronger than Shredder 13 or at least equal to it. Note each engine used their own opening book. Next up is to test it versus Komodo.
"Good decisions come from experience, and experience comes from bad decisions."
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by AdminX » Fri Jun 25, 2021 11:40 am
Here is a nice position from game 4 of the match.
[d]2rbr1k1/2qb1ppp/B2p4/2n1nPP1/1p1NN3/4B3/PPP2Q1P/2KR2R1 w - - 0 24
Black has just played 23. ... Nc5. White to move.
[pgn]
[Event "5 Minutes/Game + 3 Seconds/Move"]
[Site "Engine Match"]
[Date "2021.06.24"]
[Round "4"]
[White "Chiron 5 64bit (R)"]
[Black "Deep Shredder 13 (R)"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "B66"]
[PlyCount "157"]
[EventDate "2021.??.??"]
1. e4 {book 0s} c5 {book 0s} 2. Nf3 {book 0s} Nc6 {book 0s} 3. d4 {book 0s}
cxd4 {book 0s} 4. Nxd4 {book 0s} Nf6 {book 0s} 5. Nc3 {book 0s} d6 {book 0s}
6. Bg5 {book 0s} e6 {book 0s} 7. Qd2 {book 0s} a6 {book 0s} 8. O-O-O {book 0s}
Qb6 {book 0s} 9. Nb3 {book 0s} Be7 {book 0s} 10. f3 {book 0s} O-O {book 0s} 11.
g4 {book 0s} Qc7 {book 0s} 12. Be3 {book 0s} b5 {book 0s} 13. g5 {book 0s} Nd7
{book 0s} 14. f4 {book 0s} Nb6 {book 0s} 15. f5 {book 0s} b4 {-0.29/26 14} 16.
Nb1 {book 0s (Bxb6)} exf5 {-0.22/26 31} 17. exf5 {0.00/26 21} Re8 {-0.58/24 13}
18. Qf2 {-0.10/24 8 (h4)} Na4 {-0.18/23 24 (Rb8)} 19. Rg1 {0.00/22 11 (Bg2)}
Bd7 {0.00/22 23 (Ne5)} 20. Nd4 {0.38/24 10} Ne5 {0.00/25 34s} 21. Nd2 {0.32/25
0} Rac8 {0.00/25 14 (d5)} 22. Ne4 {0.65/24 19 (Kb1)} Bd8 {0.64/23 14} 23. Bxa6
{1.16/26 0s} Nc5 {1.55/25 37 (Nxb2)} 24. Nf6+ {2.11/25 11} Kh8 {1.57/28 15} 25.
Nxe8 {2.48/23 2} Bxe8 {1.62/27 3} 26. Qe2 {2.06/26 22} b3 {1.80/28 0} 27. axb3
{2.44/25 23s} Ra8 {1.65/30 0} 28. Bc4 {2.27/26 22} Qb7 {1.66/27 0s} 29. Bf4 {
2.27/25 10} Ne4 {1.63/26 2 (Ra1+)} 30. c3 {2.46/25 12} Nxc4 {1.72/29 7} 31.
Qxc4 {2.49/24 3} d5 {1.85/28 6 (Ba5)} 32. Qb4 {2.68/26 11} Qxb4 {1.84/30 3s}
33. cxb4 {2.78/27 11} Nf2 {1.75/31 6} 34. Kd2 {2.78/27 11} Nxd1 {2.05/30 13}
35. Rxd1 {2.88/30 0} Bb6 {1.79/31 12 (Bd7)} 36. Kd3 {2.96/27 20} Bd7 {2.10/29 1
} 37. Bd6 {2.77/28 18} Bd8 {2.30/28 12 (h6)} 38. h4 {2.99/25 9 (Rc1)} Ra6 {
2.25/28 19 (h6)} 39. Bc5 {3.36/25 9 (Bf4)} h6 {2.41/27 14} 40. b5 {3.88/28 0}
Ra8 {2.60/27 8} 41. b6 {4.11/29 0 (Rg1)} Kh7 {3.16/29 27} 42. b7 {4.41/31 0}
Rb8 {3.41/29 10} 43. Ra1 {4.52/30 1} Rxb7 {3.48/28 3 (hxg5)} 44. Ra8 {4.73/27
10} hxg5 {3.72/27 1 (Bb6)} 45. Rxd8 {4.98/29 16s} gxh4 {4.09/29 0} 46. Ke3 {
5.12/29 8} h3 {4.28/27 1s} 47. Kf2 {5.49/31 15} g6 {4.55/30 3} 48. Kg3 {
5.89/30 12} gxf5 {4.71/28 2 (Kg7)} 49. Kxh3 {6.23/27 8s} f4+ {4.87/27 1} 50.
Kg2 {6.44/25 6} f3+ {5.18/28 12s (Bg4)} 51. Kxf3 {7.12/27 7} Kg6 {6.03/26 2
(Kg7)} 52. Kf4 {7.62/27 10 (b4)} f6 {7.14/28 16} 53. b4 {8.50/30 0} Rc7 {
7.86/28 11} 54. Rg8+ {9.30/29 0} Kh7 {8.21/27 8} 55. Rf8 {9.64/28 1} Kg6 {
8.32/26 1} 56. Be7 {9.44/34 7} Rc1 {8.48/25 0 (Kh5)} 57. Rxf6+ {10.52/27 10}
Kh7 {8.98/26 0} 58. b5 {10.75/29 11 (Ke5)} Rb1 {9.93/26 9 (Re1)} 59. Nf5 {
12.25/31 9 (Ke5)} Rf1+ {17.14/22 7} 60. Ke5 {14.15/33 1} Re1+ {18.57/24 4s
(Be8)} 61. Kd6 {16.35/36 8} Bc8 {+(15)/33 0s} 62. Rh6+ {19.35/43 7} Kg8 {
18.70/15 0} 63. Rg6+ {21.95/41 7} Kh7 {+(11)/34 0s} 64. Rg7+ {25.25/46 7} Kh8 {
+(11)/15 0s} 65. Rf7 {28.88/46 7} Re6+ {+(9)/37 0s (Bxf5)} 66. Kxd5 {32.59/46
6 (Kc7)} Kg8 {+(8)/38 6s} 67. Rf8+ {250.00/24 2s} Kh7 {+(11)/15 0s} 68. Rxc8 {
#15/34 7} Re2 {+(6)/39 0s (Rg6)} 69. Bf6 {22.08/46 6 (Nd4)} Kg6 {+(7)/40 3s}
70. b6 {26.52/49 2 (Nd4)} Kxf6 {+(6)/36 4s (Re1)} 71. b7 {#13/27 12 (Rf8+)}
Re5+ {+(5)/39 4s} 72. Kc4 {#10/29 1 (Kd4)} Re4+ {+(4)/40 4s} 73. Nd4 {#8/36 0
(Kd3)} Re5 {+(3)/39 4s (Re1)} 74. b8=Q {#6/23 0 (Rf8+)} Re7 {+(2)/38 3s} 75.
Rf8+ {#5/76 0 (Qd6+)} Rf7 {+(1)/41 3s (Kg7)} 76. Qf4+ {#4/15 0 (Rxf7+)} Kg6 {
+(1)/40 3s (Kg7)} 77. Rxf7 {#3/11 0 (Qxf7+)} Kh5 {#2/4 0} 78. Rh7+ {#2/128 0}
Kg6 {#1/2 0} 79. Qf5# {#1/4 0} 1-0
[/pgn]
"Good decisions come from experience, and experience comes from bad decisions."
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by mclane » Fri Jun 25, 2021 2:32 pm
Thank you
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by Damir » Fri Jun 25, 2021 8:39 pm
sarona wrote: ↑ Thu Jun 24, 2021 11:08 pm
Damir wrote: ↑ Thu Jun 24, 2021 1:36 pm
. . . sorry for the incovinience and my impatience.
. I actually kept checking my emal client waiting for the link, too! My wife thought I was nuts. .
I just got a mail from Andrea where he told me to reinstall Chiron 5 from the same download link. It seems Chiron 5 was underperforming 10-15 elo with something called ''flag'' that he forgot to remove when compiling Chiron 5. He has now removed ''flag'' option so the engine should get additional 10-15 elo in its performance. Might be a good idea for you to reinstall Chiron 5 again and delete the old version.
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by AdminX » Fri Jun 25, 2021 8:42 pm
Damir wrote: ↑ Fri Jun 25, 2021 8:39 pm
sarona wrote: ↑ Thu Jun 24, 2021 11:08 pm
Damir wrote: ↑ Thu Jun 24, 2021 1:36 pm
. . . sorry for the incovinience and my impatience.
. I actually kept checking my emal client waiting for the link, too! My wife thought I was nuts. .
I just got a mail from Andrea where he told me to reinstall Chiron 5 from the same download link. It seems Chiron 5 was underperforming 10-15 elo with something called ''flag'' that he forgot to remove when compiling Chiron 5. He has now removed ''flag'' option so the engine should get additional 10-15 elo in its performance. Might be a good idea for you to reinstall Chiron 5 again and delete the old version.
Thanks for that heads up, I checked my email and sure enough I received the same email.
"Good decisions come from experience, and experience comes from bad decisions."
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Ted Summers