Dragon 3.2 Released at KomodoChess.com

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Odd Gunnar Malin
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Re: Dragon 3.2 Released at KomodoChess.com

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Werewolf wrote: Mon Dec 19, 2022 10:41 am This sounds like the end..? :cry:
That would be sad, this is the only engine I found that you can spar in technical endgames (Dragon in MCTS mode). It is worth it just for this feature. Other engines would give away pawns if they see all moves being lost.
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Re: Dragon 3.2 Released at KomodoChess.com

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Wwqlcw wrote: Mon Dec 19, 2022 4:33 pm You know, a short note that "We're aware of the problem, we're sorry for the difficulties, and we're working on it right now" would be appreciated.
We are indeed aware of the problem and indeed are sorry for the difficulties. Our webmaster has a day job but plans to try to fix whatever is wrong tonite.
Komodo rules!
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Re: Dragon 3.2 Released at KomodoChess.com

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criko wrote: Mon Dec 19, 2022 8:05 am Download link does not work :-(

Not Found
The requested URL was not found on this server.
I am emailing back any customers having problems. Sorry, I was not told it was released until about an hour ago. We will try to get it fixed as soon as possible.

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Re: Dragon 3.2 Released at KomodoChess.com

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mjlef wrote: Mon Dec 19, 2022 5:47 pm
Sorry, I was not told it was released until about an hour ago.

Mark
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Re: Dragon 3.2 Released at KomodoChess.com

Post by Robert Flesher »

WTF? I purchased a 1 year Sub April 2022. Yet no upgrade? Tell me I am wrong?
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Re: Dragon 3.2 Released at KomodoChess.com

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Read the end of the 1st posting from Larry.

In the event that current subscribers don't get at least 3 upgrades within a year
or close to it (they will all get at least one with this one), reasonable refunds will be offered.
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Re: Dragon 3.2 Released at KomodoChess.com

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Paloma wrote: Mon Dec 19, 2022 10:31 pm Read the end of the 1st posting from Larry.

In the event that current subscribers don't get at least 3 upgrades within a year
or close to it (they will all get at least one with this one), reasonable refunds will be offered.
Seriously, I think all he is saying is that improvements are hard to come by and three was the goal for subscribing. Chill folks.
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Re: Dragon 3.2 Released at KomodoChess.com

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CornfedForever wrote: Tue Dec 20, 2022 12:50 am
Paloma wrote: Mon Dec 19, 2022 10:31 pm Read the end of the 1st posting from Larry.

In the event that current subscribers don't get at least 3 upgrades within a year
or close to it (they will all get at least one with this one), reasonable refunds will be offered.
Seriously, I think all he is saying is that improvements are hard to come by and three was the goal for subscribing. Chill folks.

My question is, with all these top engines, if the previous version is just 15 or 20 Elo weaker, why do most people who are NOT top GMs are constantly upgrading ? The most interesting things to look for are extra features besides a small Elo gain. extra features such as Dragon 3.1 and 3.2 also have a user-settable minimum time per move when using the LimitStrength option, and allow for Elo setting up to 3499 (3500 means full strength), also being capable of giving Knight Odds to top GM and even Rook to Masters :roll:
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Re: Dragon 3.2 Released at KomodoChess.com

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I was finally able to download it (7 PM, Mountain Standard Time [Alberta, Canada].
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Re: Dragon 3.2 Released at KomodoChess.com

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Chessqueen wrote: Tue Dec 20, 2022 1:11 am
CornfedForever wrote: Tue Dec 20, 2022 12:50 am
Paloma wrote: Mon Dec 19, 2022 10:31 pm Read the end of the 1st posting from Larry.

In the event that current subscribers don't get at least 3 upgrades within a year
or close to it (they will all get at least one with this one), reasonable refunds will be offered.
Seriously, I think all he is saying is that improvements are hard to come by and three was the goal for subscribing. Chill folks.

My question is, with all these top engines, if the previous version is just 15 or 20 Elo weaker, why do most people who are NOT top GMs are constantly upgrading ? The most interesting things to look for are extra features besides a small Elo gain. extra features such as Dragon 3.1 and 3.2 also have a user-settable minimum time per move when using the LimitStrength option, and allow for Elo setting up to 3499 (3500 means full strength), also being capable of giving Knight Odds to top GM and even Rook to Masters :roll:
Well, I think many of these are 'stockfish' derivatives or otherwise free. So, there is no reason not to try a newer version.

Those options you mention - most people really do not use them, but yes, that is a selling point for some and why you see it in Dragon. The problem there...there is only so much they can do concerning 'regular chess'. This because an engine is just an engine...and 'strong' is 'strong'...and NNUE sort of levels the playing field at the top.

Essentially, engines are at a 'dead end' concerning strength, especially concerning regular chess. Heresy (here), I know; but I believe it. Take any strong engine and put it in a multi-purpose GUI and then you actually have something. That's been 'the future' for a while now and we see it more and more.