Why don't strong engines enter WCCC?

[hgm]

Well, you can whine all you like about where you were born, and how unfair it is that people do not agree with you. But I don't think anyone is interested in that, and it is completely off topic.

Fact is that almost everything you have been stating here was shown to be false by detailed argument by multiple people, and the only 'argument' from your side consisted of repeating your refuted claims ad nauseam.

[Sedat Canbaz]

Well, you can whine all you like about where you were born, and how unfair it is that people do not agree with you. But I don't think anyone is interested in that, and it is completely off topic.

Fact is that almost everything you have been stating here was shown to be false by detailed argument by multiple people, and the only 'argument' from your side consisted of repeating your refuted claims ad nauseam.

I have nothing against people who does not agree with me or who criticize my work...

But I will not tolerate anyone (including you) who use abuse language and underestimate my chess activities!!!

And I understand perfectly those who use abuse words over my personality,
Simply they are miserable, helpless, full of envy, they have ethnic problems too
And this is the easiest cheap way to attack me via abuse words....

But all those 'clever' people are losers, be sure of this !!


Do you understand me now ??

[Sedat Canbaz]

That's why I requested a special section to be available....

Cleaned from uncultured people....

[hgm]

Ah, abuse words... What exactly do you consider 'abuse words'?

You consider it abuse that when you say something silly, someone calls it silly?

A lot more words spring to mind that accurately describe your behavior, but you would probably all consider them 'abuse'.

There is an English saying: "If you cannot stand the heat, stay out of the kitchen!".

[Sedat Canbaz]

Ah, abuse words... What exactly do you consider 'abuse words'?

You consider it abuse that when you say something silly, someone calls it silly?

A lot more words spring to mind that accurately describe your behavior, but you would probably all consider them 'abuse'.

There is an English saying: "If you cannot stand the heat, stay out of the kitchen!".

Hey HGM,

Ok...I will follow your quote:
I am going to be on the terrace, because there are rotten food (hgm) in the kitchen!!))

BTW,
Your below messages show/prove how you underestimate my chess activities and my statements

But I will tell one thing: Shut up !!!
And go to improve your Winboard GUI!

It looks like a 1990 year model car )!
But it seems you can not do it, because you are not a talented programmer )) !!

And I suggest you to retire from computer chess, you are 0 believe me !!

Your attitude towards life broadcasting seems a pure superstition.

Whether you agree or disagree is completely immaterial, as you are not qualified to make any judgement at all.

This again should count as one of those totally uninformed 'views' that only someone completely ignorant of programming could have.

Well, so you do not only exhibit yourself as naive and ignorant,
but also as thick and conceited by proclaiming yourself an expert in areas you have not the slightest knowledge of

Now what has web-view stats to do with anything? For all we know people just get there to have a good laugh.
I am sure there are many top comedians that have websites that get more hits than yours.

Well, that sounds promising, and I am sure it will be a great releif to everyone.
Unfortunatly it has turned out that your word is worth very little in this respect,
and despite earlier promises you keep returning here to bug people with your silly misconceptions.

[hgm]

Well, all of that was 100% true and to the point, so what's the abuse?

You do know nothing about programming, and have never written a program for anything in your life, correct?

And we did not even discuss your qualities as a tester, because it is off topic. Like WinBoard is completely off topic. If you want to demonstrate the World how incompetent a tester you are by babbling nonsense about WinBoard, you are of course more than welcome, but please open a separate thread for that, and I will be happy to expose your ignorance about it step by step.

But please stay on topic here, so that we can take apart your misconceptions about WCCC attendence step by step!

[Sedat Canbaz]

Well, all of that was 100% true and to the point, so what's the abuse?

You do know nothing about programming, and have never written a program for anything in your life, correct?

And we did not even discuss your qualities as a tester, because it is off topic. Like WinBoard is completely off topic. If you want to demonstrate the World how incompetent a tester you are by babbling nonsense about WinBoard, you are of course more than welcome, but please open a separate thread for that, and I will be happy to expose your ignorance about it step by step.

But please stay on topic here, so that we can take apart your misconceptions about WCCC attendence step by step!

Hehe...

I am not an engine developer, but I am a book developer, it is also a program !

Btw, who are you ??
If you managed to release chess engine, does it mean that your blood is green ???

Exception you, I know here there are some engine developers too,
who are trying to fly too high...but I already stated, you need to check my previous postings again...

And you proved us several times that you are an amateur chess programmer!
You are trying to prove us that Rybka is a clone, but you can not do that...!!

But however... after all,
I can understand very easy why your negative reactions are appearing over me
Simply due to my Chess GUI testings
Where the records of forfeits on time were under Winboard...

But however,
Be professional like other rest GUI programmers, ok ??

And don't repeat each time like parrot what I should post, ok ??

What about your words about me that 'I am comedian' ; I am silly ; etc...

Is it related with WCCC ???

[hgm]

I am not an engine developer, but I am a book developer, it is also a program !

Sorry to burst your bubble, but an opening book is not a program, and writing a book does not make you a programmer anymore than baking a pizza does.

Btw, who are you ??
If you managed to release chess engine, does it mean that your blood is green ???

Green blood would not be helpful for anything. But being a programmer is helpful for detecting likeness of computer programs, like reading Chinese is helpfull for being a critic of Chinese literature. And the issue was not me, but that you state that you don't care what Chess programmers (any Chess programmer!) think about these programs. Without even ever having taken a look at any of their source codes. That is silly.

And you proved us several times that you are an amateur chess programmer!
You are trying to prove us that Rybka is a clone, but you can not do that...!!

You really seem to understand very little from what people write... I never tried to prove anything; I just pointed out that it has been investigated by a panel of Chess programmers and proven to the satisfaction of ICGA.

But however... after all,
I can understand very easy why your negative reactions are appearing over me
Simply due to my Chess GUI testings
Where the records of forfeits on time were under Winboard...

Sure, WinBoard is a lot better in detecting time forfeits than most other GUIs. This is well known. But, again, that is completely off topic here. I cannot understand why you are so obsessed with WinBoard, that you keep bringing it up.

What about your words about me that 'I am comedian' ; I am silly ; etc...

They exist only in your mind. (Poor reading again?) I never said you were a comedian. I just said that there exist comedians that have more hits to their website as you have. Do you want to deny such comedians exist? How many hits do you have to your website anyway? Number of hits is just no measure for how serious the world takes you, and the comedians were just an example to that. As for 'silly', I also never said you were silly. Just that what you said was silly. Of course, when you persist in saying silly things, people will in the long run start thinking that you are indeed silly. But that is not my fault...

Is it related with WCCC ???

No, they were all replies to statements of you, to show that these statements were not related to WCCC attendence.

[Uri Blass]

Well, all of that was 100% true and to the point, so what's the abuse?

You do know nothing about programming, and have never written a program for anything in your life, correct?

And we did not even discuss your qualities as a tester, because it is off topic. Like WinBoard is completely off topic. If you want to demonstrate the World how incompetent a tester you are by babbling nonsense about WinBoard, you are of course more than welcome, but please open a separate thread for that, and I will be happy to expose your ignorance about it step by step.

But please stay on topic here, so that we can take apart your misconceptions about WCCC attendence step by step!

Hehe...

I am not an engine developer, but I am a book developer, it is also a program !

Btw, who are you ??
If you managed to release chess engine, does it mean that your blood is green ???

Exception you, I know here there are some engine developers too,
who are trying to fly too high...but I already stated, you need to check my previous postings again...

And you proved us several times that you are an amateur chess programmer!
You are trying to prove us that Rybka is a clone, but you can not do that...!!

But however... after all,
I can understand very easy why your negative reactions are appearing over me
Simply due to my Chess GUI testings
Where the records of forfeits on time were under Winboard...

But however,
Be professional like other rest GUI programmers, ok ??

And don't repeat each time like parrot what I should post, ok ??

What about your words about me that 'I am comedian' ; I am silly ; etc...

Is it related with WCCC ???

H.G.Muller never tried to prove that rybka is a clone or derivative of rybka
and he respond only against your words and his claim is that you have no way to be sure that rybka is not a fruit derivative.

From his words:

"I have not examined Rybka (I don't even have it), so I cannot be sure whether it is a clone or not. (And I could not care less.) But I am getting a bit tired of people that claim they are sure, for a completely non-sensical reason, who have not made any effort to investigate the matter properly."

I also consider him to be a good programmer and I think that doing what he did with winboard is not an easier task than developing a strong chess engine.

His chess engine(Joker) is not strong but he also did not spend a lot of time in developing it and he develops engines also for other games that are not exactly chess and for chess not to be the strongest(Micromax that is maybe the only engine that has more than 1 elo per byte and has a rating near 2000 with less than 2000 bytes).

Uri

[Sedat Canbaz]

Sorry to burst your bubble, but an opening book is not a program, and writing a book does not make you a programmer anymore than baking a pizza does.

Of of of...you are not normal, you are extreme commentator !!))

I repeat again,
I am not an engine developer, but I am a book developer !!

And here is the definition about 'program' meaning:
http://www.businessdictionary.com/defin ... ogram.html

As we see,
Program name has several meanings...

But at least I can say:
- The opening book is the main and very important part of the program!!!
- The opening book plays a very big role, in case of engine matches !!!

And I still keep Perfect 16 book,
For those who underestimate my works... !!

About continuing more to discuss over WCCC; Rybka; etc...
It is not necessary any more...already we clearly stated to each other...))!!

Actually I stated several times and once more will say:
I don't care too much what programmers will say for Rybka
6 years to be unbeatable... it explains us everything....!!!

But however, I'd like to say 'thank you'
I had a big pleasure during testing your engine in SCCT scratch testing!

And I have a little wish from you,
It will be great, if you stay far away from me!


Thanks in advance and good luck!