11th Amateur Series Division 1

[Graham Banks]

It might be just because Grapefruit does much better against Fruit clones than Stockfish does.

Could be, although I think that derivatives is a more accurate term than clones.

Either word works equally well. Clone and Derivative have many definitions several of which overlap.

True.

[kranium]

It might be just because Grapefruit does much better against Fruit clones than Stockfish does.

Could be, although I think that derivatives is a more accurate term than clones.

Either word works equally well. Clone and Derivative have many definitions several of which overlap.

Hi Kenny-

i don't see how the definitions overlap at all...
clone means the same (identical), derivative means different (derived from)...?
can you explain...?

Norm

[Graham Banks]

clone means the same (identical), derivative means different (derived from)...

That was my take too when I made my original statement.

[CThinker]

It might be just because Grapefruit does much better against Fruit clones than Stockfish does.

Could be, although I think that derivatives is a more accurate term than clones.

Either word works equally well. Clone and Derivative have many definitions several of which overlap.

Hi Kenny-

i don't see how the definitions overlap at all...
clone means the same (identical), derivative means different (derived from)...?
can you explain...?

Norm

The so called clones out there are not 'identical' to what they were cloning. Its no different from what are now termed as derivatives. A few lines of changes here and there.

All the same - non-original work.

[krazyken]

It might be just because Grapefruit does much better against Fruit clones than Stockfish does.

Could be, although I think that derivatives is a more accurate term than clones.

Either word works equally well. Clone and Derivative have many definitions several of which overlap.

Hi Kenny-

i don't see how the definitions overlap at all...
clone means the same (identical), derivative means different (derived from)...?
can you explain...?

Norm

google is your friend:

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Definitions of clone on the Web:

ringer: a person who is almost identical to another
a group of genetically identical cells or organisms derived from a single cell or individual by some kind of asexual reproduction
make multiple identical copies of; "people can clone a sheep nowadays"
knockoff: an unauthorized copy or imitation
A video game clone is a video game or game series which is very similar to or heavily inspired by a previous popular game or game series.
 

Of course I understand that the current crowd likes to attach heavy connotations to some words. However, I do not use the words in a derogatory manner

[Graham Banks]

11TH AMATEUR SERIES (Division 1)

AMD64x2 Dual Core
ChessGUI
128mb hash each
3-4-5 piece tablebases
Ponder off
HS-Large Remis book (limited to 12 moves)
40 moves in 38 minutes repeating (adapted for the CCRL)
4 cycles 44 rounds
All engines 32-bit 1CPU

The bottom engine is likely to be relegated into Division 2 for the following series. The second bottom engine will play a ten game match against the second top engine from Division 2 to determine which divisions they are likely to play in for the following season.

Final Standings

31.0 - Grapefruit 1.0
29.0 - Thinker 5.4a Inert
27.5 - Cyclone 3.4
24.5 - TheMadPrune 1.1.25
24.5 - Fruit 2.3.1
22.5 - Glaurung 2.2
22.5 - Toga II 1.4.1SE
21.5 - Twisted Logic 20080620
17.5 - Bright 0.3a
16.0 - Booot 4.15.0
15.0 - Stockfish 1.2
12.5 - Delfi 5.4


The complete tournament pgn (zipped) can de downloaded:
http://kirill-kryukov.com/chess/discuss ... p?id=14202

[Dr.Wael Deeb]

Grapefruit 1.0=adorable....
Just looking at the gap between it and Toga 1.4.1 SE makes me feel dazzy
Dr.D

[Graham Banks]

Grapefruit 1.0=adorable....
Just looking at the gap between it and Toga 1.4.1 SE makes me feel dazzy
Dr.D

Toga II 1.4.1SE had a poor tournament though.