Dr.Wael Deeb wrote:
Rybka 3+ is a myth regards,
Dr.D
Maybe not. Perhaps it escaped and got renamed.
This is something that I considered as well. Frustrated by not being able to distribute Rybka 3+ through ChessOK and Chessbase he may have leaked it anonymously.
As for the source code, perhaps he was just tired of having no threatening competition and thought he could anonymously raise the stakes by putting out the R3+ code out there in hopes that a strong competitor would arise, something to give Vas the energy and incentive to improve his engine further.
This makes sense to me. It achieved a lot of things. Besides from the one mentioned in the quoted post, one of those things is that this is a good marketing strategy also.
I also think that this thing may be just another experimental version, a search like that of a tactical engine personality and a stripped down eval or an experimental eval as well. IIRC in one of the interviews the author admitted that he had rewritten the eval a few times after the last public version, these might be one of those eval that was scrapped.
Dr.Wael Deeb wrote:
Rybka 3+ is a myth regards,
Dr.D
Maybe not. Perhaps it escaped and got renamed.
This is something that I considered as well. Frustrated by not being able to distribute Rybka 3+ through ChessOK and Chessbase he may have leaked it anonymously.
As for the source code, perhaps he was just tired of having no threatening competition and thought he could anonymously raise the stakes by putting out the R3+ code out there in hopes that a strong competitor would arise, something to give Vas the energy and incentive to improve his engine further.
This makes sense to me. It achieved a lot of things. Besides from the one mentioned in the quoted post, one of those things is that this is a good marketing strategy also.
I also think that this thing may be just another experimental version, a search like that of a tactical engine personality and a stripped down eval or an experimental eval as well. IIRC in one of the interviews the author admitted that he had rewritten the eval a few times after the last public version, these might be one of those eval that was scrapped.
Nope,makes no sense to me....more like Hollywood scenario for a conspiracy film....
It makes no sense for the simple fact that even if he threw a scrapped version of the new rewritten Rybka,it would still harm him as it becomes a starting point for heavy developement by many programmers and I can send you to a site with an author doing exactly this and regardless of his reputation,he is talented and consistant....he apply logik in his work
Oh God,one thing is for sure....Vasik is probably reading all of this with an ironic smile on his face....or maybe not....who knows
Dr.D
_No one can hit as hard as life.But it ain’t about how hard you can hit.It’s about how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward.How much you can take and keep moving forward….
Dr.Wael Deeb wrote:
Rybka 3+ is a myth regards,
Dr.D
Maybe not. Perhaps it escaped and got renamed.
This is something that I considered as well. Frustrated by not being able to distribute Rybka 3+ through ChessOK and Chessbase he may have leaked it anonymously.
As for the source code, perhaps he was just tired of having no threatening competition and thought he could anonymously raise the stakes by putting out the R3+ code out there in hopes that a strong competitor would arise, something to give Vas the energy and incentive to improve his engine further.
This makes sense to me. It achieved a lot of things. Besides from the one mentioned in the quoted post, one of those things is that this is a good marketing strategy also.
I also think that this thing may be just another experimental version, a search like that of a tactical engine personality and a stripped down eval or an experimental eval as well. IIRC in one of the interviews the author admitted that he had rewritten the eval a few times after the last public version, these might be one of those eval that was scrapped.
Makes sense to me. Yes, it reminds me of that time when Kasparov, tired of winning all the time, published his secret analysis so his competition could catch up. Another famous parallel was when Microsoft made their Windows code open source because of the excess in profits.
"Tactics are the bricks and sticks that make up a game, but positional play is the architectural blueprint."
Dr.Wael Deeb wrote:he apply logik in his work
Dr.D
Norman? He cannot program anything. They even know that in the cracker forum?
You really do talk some rot.
Then what about the regular updates that are flooding his site ....
Keep watching him and you'll see a MP version of the cursed engine released in this very site we're talking about....
I am not advertising him or his work,but he did developed Toga and rised it to a higher places in the rating lists with Cyclone and that is a fact....
I can't program,hell yes,but Norman....I am not so sure....
_No one can hit as hard as life.But it ain’t about how hard you can hit.It’s about how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward.How much you can take and keep moving forward….
Dr.Wael Deeb wrote:
Rybka 3+ is a myth regards,
Dr.D
Maybe not. Perhaps it escaped and got renamed.
This is something that I considered as well. Frustrated by not being able to distribute Rybka 3+ through ChessOK and Chessbase he may have leaked it anonymously.
As for the source code, perhaps he was just tired of having no threatening competition and thought he could anonymously raise the stakes by putting out the R3+ code out there in hopes that a strong competitor would arise, something to give Vas the energy and incentive to improve his engine further.
This makes sense to me. It achieved a lot of things. Besides from the one mentioned in the quoted post, one of those things is that this is a good marketing strategy also.
I also think that this thing may be just another experimental version, a search like that of a tactical engine personality and a stripped down eval or an experimental eval as well. IIRC in one of the interviews the author admitted that he had rewritten the eval a few times after the last public version, these might be one of those eval that was scrapped.
Makes sense to me. Yes, it reminds me of that time when Kasparov, tired of winning all the time, published his secret analysis so his competition could catch up. Another famous parallel was when Microsoft made their Windows code open source because of the excess in profits.
So when you reach the top and stay there long enough,you get bored and start to throw your both sides buttered bread at the competition just for fun,is that right
_No one can hit as hard as life.But it ain’t about how hard you can hit.It’s about how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward.How much you can take and keep moving forward….
Dr.Wael Deeb wrote:he apply logik in his work
Dr.D
Norman? He cannot program anything. They even know that in the cracker forum?
You really do talk some rot.
Then what about the regular updates that are flooding his site ....
The regular "updates" or downdate as one top programmer privately told me are because he is pissed. Pissed in the annoyed sense of the word....
Keep watching him and you'll see a MP version of the cursed engine released in this very site we're talking about....
I only watch him for amusement now. It is quite funny. He should concentrate on Demon (or whatever he wants to change its name to again).
I am not advertising him or his work,but he did developed Toga and rised it to a higher places in the rating lists with Cyclone and that is a fact....
He rose nothing. He comes from the same school as you. That is the one that shouts a lot and in reality has zero.
I can't program,hell yes,but Norman....I am not so sure....
Be sure. Doctor's get trained. Trust me.......I am a trainer.
I'm trying to keep a civilised conversation here,stop your sick statements and stick to the topic....you don't know me and you don't know the schools that I came from so shut your dirty mouth.....
_No one can hit as hard as life.But it ain’t about how hard you can hit.It’s about how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward.How much you can take and keep moving forward….
And for your own information Cyclone has improved around 100 Elo by Norman's efforts....and you,what did you do,what did you contribute to this community
Nasir from Pakistan is not me you dummy and I challange you to demand his IP and see if it comes from Jordan....it's not an alternative account created by me to deliver you a cheap shot,why would I do so when I can kick your sick butt whenever I want....
Go,check the IP address,the account was created on 29 March,I don't know if it's realy coming from Pakistan,but it's certainly not coming from Jordan....
_No one can hit as hard as life.But it ain’t about how hard you can hit.It’s about how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward.How much you can take and keep moving forward….
Dr.Wael Deeb wrote:And for your own information Cyclone has improved around 100 Elo by Norman's efforts....and you,what did you do,what did you contribute to this community
Nasir from Pakistan is not me you dummy and I challange you to demand his IP and see if it comes from Jordan....it's not an alternative account created by me to deliver you a cheap shot,why would I do so when I can kick your sick butt whenever I want....
Go,check the IP address,the account was created on 29 March,I don't know if it's realy coming from Pakistan,but it's certainly not coming from Jordan....
Norman is worthless. A man let way too near a compiler. That sums him up. Nasir? Who is that? Is that the Suez guy?
Obviously you have no idea what I am talking about. One thing is for sure, I will not be measuring myself against your tiny little self.
Why such big explanations of everything? That thread is down there now.
Feeling guilty? Keep talking.......I'm all ears. I like it when the scared start spouting rubbish. Keep it up....it is Normanesk.......
