Year 2009 = 2 really big surprises

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Re: Year 2009 = 2 really big surprises

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Kirk wrote:
Graham Banks wrote:
xcomponent wrote:
(and of course to all authors of legitimate engines, no matter how strong).
We were almost forgotten lately. :roll:
The programmers of engines of all strengths deserve our support and gratitude. Don't ever feel discouraged. :D
It seems "strength" has surpassed all else in interest.

I would think for most players just having different engines that play unique styles would be more interesting to study. Some of the "lesser" engines are more colorful

With open source we will reach a time in the future where all top engines will play the same

Besides most engines beat %99.9 percent of us anyway. Can't let all the science ruin the "art" :)
Can you speak for yourself please :?: :lol:

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Dr.Wael Deeb wrote:
Kirk wrote:
Graham Banks wrote:
xcomponent wrote:
(and of course to all authors of legitimate engines, no matter how strong).
We were almost forgotten lately. :roll:
The programmers of engines of all strengths deserve our support and gratitude. Don't ever feel discouraged. :D
It seems "strength" has surpassed all else in interest.

I would think for most players just having different engines that play unique styles would be more interesting to study. Some of the "lesser" engines are more colorful

With open source we will reach a time in the future where all top engines will play the same

Besides most engines beat %99.9 percent of us anyway. Can't let all the science ruin the "art" :)
Can you speak for yourself please :?: :lol:

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rlsuth wrote:Of course, if you were of a suspicious mind, you'd wonder if there was no better way than to ensure good sales of Rybka 4 than to have new programs from "unknown authors" surpass the previous version in strength.

I'm just saying .... :)
If I was Vas I would not release Rybka 4 until being completely sure it couldn't be hacked/disasembled and source code published as it happened to Rybka 3.
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Andres Valverde wrote:
rlsuth wrote:Of course, if you were of a suspicious mind, you'd wonder if there was no better way than to ensure good sales of Rybka 4 than to have new programs from "unknown authors" surpass the previous version in strength.

I'm just saying .... :)
If I was Vas I would not release Rybka 4 until being completely sure it couldn't be hacked/disasembled and source code published as it happened to Rybka 3.
....as it happened to Rybka 3 :?: :?:
So you do believe Vasik after all :?: :?:
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Dr.Wael Deeb wrote:
Andres Valverde wrote:
rlsuth wrote:Of course, if you were of a suspicious mind, you'd wonder if there was no better way than to ensure good sales of Rybka 4 than to have new programs from "unknown authors" surpass the previous version in strength.

I'm just saying .... :)
If I was Vas I would not release Rybka 4 until being completely sure it couldn't be hacked/disasembled and source code published as it happened to Rybka 3.
....as it happened to Rybka 3 :?: :?:
So you do believe Vasik after all :?: :?:
Of course
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Andres Valverde wrote:
Dr.Wael Deeb wrote:
Andres Valverde wrote:
rlsuth wrote:Of course, if you were of a suspicious mind, you'd wonder if there was no better way than to ensure good sales of Rybka 4 than to have new programs from "unknown authors" surpass the previous version in strength.

I'm just saying .... :)
If I was Vas I would not release Rybka 4 until being completely sure it couldn't be hacked/disasembled and source code published as it happened to Rybka 3.
....as it happened to Rybka 3 :?: :?:
So you do believe Vasik after all :?: :?:
Of course
I am astonished regarding the brain wash procedure this guy has applied to his customers....I mean even his lies are obvious,there are still people who believe in him....
Rybka 3+ wasn't released as he promised,then he lost the Rybka 3 source code and that's why he won't release Rybka 3+,not that he don't want to,it's just he can't....what a sore loser :!:
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Andres Valverde wrote: If I was Vas I would not release Rybka 4 until being completely sure it couldn't be hacked/disasembled and source code published as it happened to Rybka 3.
lol, no such thing as hack proof, not unless a new machine language is invented. And that too will be hacked :lol:
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Matthias Gemuh wrote:
metax wrote: I am pretty sure no new Rybka version will be released that is NOT the strongest chess engine in the world.
I would advice Rybka to quickly get used to being 3rd or 4th.
RobboLito MP and Igorrit may soon top the league for long.

Matthias.
In terms of Historical perspective
Rybka has lead the rating race for about 4 Years(Dec.2005-Dec.2009)
so about 4 years in total..

however this pales in comparison to Richard Langs commercial chess engines which were the strongest engines that money could buy for 7 consecutive years
1985-1991

http://www.schach-computer.info/wiki/index.php/WMCCC

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noctiferus wrote:<Graham: Yes - a theory that seems to be growing in popularity. Certainly not to be pooh-poohed.>


I was the first to advance this hypothesis, in Rybka forum, some time ago (that would be a great marketing idea).

As a very clever italian politician said: If you think the worse, you sin, but, often, you are right...


Was it before this post?: http://rybkaforum.net/cgi-bin/rybkaforu ... =85281;hl=

I hope I didn't give anybody any ideas :)
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Steve B wrote:
Matthias Gemuh wrote:
metax wrote: I am pretty sure no new Rybka version will be released that is NOT the strongest chess engine in the world.
I would advice Rybka to quickly get used to being 3rd or 4th.
RobboLito MP and Igorrit may soon top the league for long.

Matthias.
In terms of Historical perspective
Rybka has lead the rating race for about 4 Years(Dec.2005-Dec.2009)
so about 4 years in total..

however this pales in comparison to Richard Langs commercial chess engines which were the strongest engines that money could buy for 7 consecutive years
1985-1991

http://www.schach-computer.info/wiki/index.php/WMCCC

Not Even Close Regards
Steve
Thanks Steve,an interesting fact :D
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