Interview with Gian-Carlo Pascutto available (english)

[Frank Quisinsky]

Hi Sedat,

your word is important for me, you know.
Thanks!

Perhaps on different questions with to many opinions by myself. That`s are not a good idea!. Think so view days later.

But more important are the answers of Gian-Carlo.
I like the answers ...

Very nice information by Gian-Carlo.
And of course, Sjeng is a great engine ... no doubt about it.

Best
Frank

[Gian-Carlo Pascutto]

Surely your operator should have informed you of this decision?
...
Again surely your operator should have informed you.

He didn't. Given that the ICGA changed the conditions of entry so severely, I don't think it was his responsibility to inform me, but theirs. It's not clear to me Johan understood what had been decided there, and it became clear in the discussion that David Levy didn't know either until you told him, so it hard to fault him for that.

The announcement allowing Hyperthreading was made several weeks before the tournament started.

I requested a clarification the 4th of April and it was not allowed at that point, so I wonder when that happened. Why were we asked to sign forms about it the day before the tournament started? Is that why apparently the Rybka team was unaware and outraged about it?

If you wanted a special case to be made for you you should have asked.

Ah, but that's exactly the point: I do not want to be treated any different from the other programs in my position that I quoted, and which were allowed to play as amateurs.

The 500 Euro operator fee is for when ICGA supply an operator.

Rubbish! The rules say:

1. Each entry is a computing system and one or more humans who programmed it. At least one of the program developers should attend the WCCC to operate the program, otherwise the entry fee for the program is doubled.

So, you're admitting you stole the ICGA out of 500 Euro by deceiving them?

Nothing had been said in public on this topic until you decided to raise it in your interview.

I stand by my actions in this matter and have absolutely no problem with the issue being public - which is why I brought it up, anyway.

[Gian-Carlo Pascutto]

Everything in it is true.

Nope, it's a nice bunch of misinformation and mistaken assumptions, and well, insults and slander.

Btw, what consequences are you referring to?

What you say reflects on both of us and now unfortunately also on Hiarcs and Marc Uniacke. I wanted to avoid the latter but you've made that impossible.

now that your actions are open for all to see it embarrasses you...

Embarrassed? Gee, I was the one to bring it up in the interview, and the reaction it provoked surely indicates who is embarrassed by it.

Btw... I don't proclaim to be "anything."

Not a very consistent statement with your title in the link that you posted. But it's good to hear that your viewpoint in no way officially reflects that of a respected colleague.

Now that that is clear, I see no more need to spent any time on you.

[Frank Quisinsky]

Hi Wael,

nice to read.
Thanks for it.

Lisa gave a statement to your comment:

Dr Wael Deeb are all the time very sympathetically and a nice guy.

Believe me, I know my girlfriend
A very big compliment.

Best
Frank

PS:
You wonder, in which English Frank write this reply ...
Second comment by Lisa

[Harvey Williamson]

Surely your operator should have informed you of this decision?
...
Again surely your operator should have informed you.

He didn't. Given that the ICGA changed the conditions of entry so severely, I don't think it was his responsibility to inform me, but theirs. It's not clear to me Johan understood what had been decided there, and it became clear in the discussion that David Levy didn't know either until you told him, so it hard to fault him for that.

The announcement allowing Hyperthreading was made several weeks before the tournament started.

I requested a clarification the 4th of April and it was not allowed at that point, so I wonder when that happened. Why were we asked to sign forms about it the day before the tournament started? Is that why apparently the Rybka team was unaware and outraged about it?

If you wanted a special case to be made for you you should have asked.

Ah, but that's exactly the point: I do not want to be treated any different from the other programs in my position that I quoted, and which were allowed to play as amateurs.

The 500 Euro operator fee is for when ICGA supply an operator.

Rubbish! The rules say:

1. Each entry is a computing system and one or more humans who programmed it. At least one of the program developers should attend the WCCC to operate the program, otherwise the entry fee for the program is doubled.

So, you're admitting you stole the ICGA out of 500 Euro by deceiving them?

Nothing had been said in public on this topic until you decided to raise it in your interview.

I stand by my actions in this matter and have absolutely no problem with the issue being public - which is why I brought it up, anyway.

David was not at the players meeting you are correct, it was chaired by Jaap. If you had not attempted to deceive the ICGA in China you would probably have been excused the fee in Spain.

I think the rule change allowing Hyperthreading was posted on the ICGA forum. I just tried to look for it but the forum is gone. I guess I read it and some others did not. This was not the best way to communicate the rule change.

The form signing was again a result of discussion in Pamplona. Some wanted each to sign to say they agreed to abide by the rules. Johan, I guess, signed on your behalf.

You do want to be treated differently. But tough you sell Sjeng so you should pay the same as all others that are commercial. Do I think 500 is to much? - Yes.

I am a developer of Hiarcs. I spend several hours a day working on it. But if you feel you have a legitimate complaint why not make it through the proper channels. The ICGA ruled in your case and you were found guilty.

[Harvey Williamson]

btw - just to clarify one point. I did not request the rule change to allow hyperthreading to 16 cores. In fact I would have been happier with the original wording of the rule limiting to 8. I thought it was a needless change just a few weeks before the tournament when i read the post on the forum.

[Watchman]

I stand by my actions in this matter and have absolutely no problem with the issue being public - which is why I brought it up, anyway.

"You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink." And "oh horsehockey" you had no clue anyone would challenge your warped stance on this issue.

If you wanted a special case to be made for you should have asked.

Ah, but that's exactly the point: I do not want to be treated any different from the other programs in my position that I quoted, and which were allowed to play as amateurs.

HAHAHA... sure as long as you can have it both ways, you don't want a special case to be made for you.

Gromit, ParSOS, Gandalf, Goliath, Diep, Ikarus, The Crazy Bishop and Loop

You must have some idea how ridiculous that sounds. My gosh. Ok believe what you want.

Not a very consistent statement with your title in the link that you posted.

I said from my first post here, I was nothing but a peon...

Now that that is clear, I see no more need to spent any time on you.

Sad... so very sad...

[sockmonkey]

I stand by my actions in this matter and have absolutely no problem with the issue being public - which is why I brought it up, anyway.

"You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink." And "oh horsehockey" you had no clue anyone would challenge your warped stance on this issue.

If you wanted a special case to be made for you should have asked.

Ah, but that's exactly the point: I do not want to be treated any different from the other programs in my position that I quoted, and which were allowed to play as amateurs.

HAHAHA... sure as long as you can have it both ways, you don't want a special case to be made for you.

Gromit, ParSOS, Gandalf, Goliath, Diep, Ikarus, The Crazy Bishop and Loop

You must have some idea how ridiculous that sounds. My gosh. Ok believe what you want.

Not a very consistent statement with your title in the link that you posted.

I said from my first post here, I was nothing but a peon...

Now that that is clear, I see no more need to spent any time on you.

Sad... so very sad...

Gentlemen, if you've all made your points, please feel free to take this to PM or email.

Jeremy

[Gerd Isenberg]

Gentlemen, if you've all made your points, please feel free to take this to PM or email.

Jeremy

Ok, I like to declare my solidarity with Gian-Carlo - and discomfort with the decision of the ICGA to assign Gian-Carlo a computer games and chess professional.

Cheers,
Gerd

[Frank Quisinsky]

Unbelievably!
Good Gerhard, I too ...

Best
Frank