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Re: My test for ProteusChessSFv004-avx2

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sarona wrote: Sat Mar 05, 2022 2:40 am
Sylwy, a request.

Could you post the reverse game with this opening (game 82). Want to see how Fat Titz 2 played this with white.
I think that the game you are talking about is 81 :)

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Re: My test for ProteusChessSFv004-avx2

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No.

I was requesting game 82. I am assuming reverse color openings were used in this match and I wanted to see how Fat Titz 2 played this middle game with White.
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Re: My test for ProteusChessSFv004-avx2

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ProteusChessSF v004 260222 - Kayra 1.1 bmi2 / Blitz 3m+2s
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Openings: TCEC 21_Noomen Select
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Re: My test for ProteusChessSFv004-avx2

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Ghppn wrote: Thu Mar 10, 2022 1:44 pm ProteusChessSF v004 260222 - Kayra 1.1 bmi2 / Blitz 3m+2s
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Games pgnhttps://mega.nz/file/z4YxAIyB#wVBlFmh_m ... jXukeXviUY
Openings: TCEC 21_Noomen Select
Processor: Intel ® Core ™ i7– 4790 CPU 3.60 GHz (4 Cores, 8 Threads)
Memoriy (RM): 32 GB, System type: 64-bit, Windows 10 PRO.
Graphic board: NVIDIA Geforce GTX 760
Wow! A huge advantage over the ultra-strong Kayra 1.1! On my test without NNUE on weaker hardware they have the same strength

forum3/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=79238&sid=22 ... 80#p922431

Thank you for posting the results
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Re: My test for ProteusChessSFv004-avx2

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Sylwy wrote: Wed Mar 02, 2022 7:04 pm Started:

Match conditions:

-TC=4'+2"
-Hash=256 MB
-GUI: Arena 3.5.1
-Books: SuperGM_4mvs.abk (8 plies book) for both engines
-default settings for both engines
-1 thread-CPU=Intel i5-7400-3GHz (Kaby Lake)
-TBS: 6-men Syzygy bases for both engines
-OS: Windows 10 Home.
Hi Sylwy!

If you test ProteusSF please use last build 008b with his ProteusSF.exp and Solista 010622.bin book (All inside zip)

https://banksiagui.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=132#p132

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Re: My test for ProteusChessSFv004-avx2

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AlexChess wrote: Sat Jun 04, 2022 2:24 pm

Hi Sylwy!

If you test ProteusSF please use last build 008b with his ProteusSF.exp and Solista 010622.bin book (All inside zip)

https://banksiagui.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=132#p132

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Alex, your huge ProteusSF.exp is a FIASCO! Look at the two tests: the first is with Sarona.exp file (a good one) -56%; the second is with this catastrophic huge mixture-only 52%. In both tests I used the same opponent, the same conditions. Proteus played without a book (to highlight the contribution of the experience files). Probably you merged Sarona.exp with another large experience file, but ...... attention: or the files were probably trained with games having different TC, or the data was not well filtered, or ..... (Nobel in exp files) Maestro deeds (Chess2U) can enlighten you well. Any test (currently) is useless.

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Matches conditions:

-TC=4'+2"
-Hash=256 MB
-GUI: Arena 3.5.1
-Books: SuperGM_4mvs.abk (8 plies book) only for Fat Titz 2
-default settings for both engines
-1 thread-CPU=Intel i5-7400-3GHz (Kaby Lake)
-TBS: 6-men Syzygy bases for both engines
-OS: Windows 10 Home.
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Re: My test for ProteusChessSFv004-avx2

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Sylwy wrote: Sat Jun 04, 2022 4:26 pm
AlexChess wrote: Sat Jun 04, 2022 2:24 pm

Hi Sylwy!

If you test ProteusSF please use last build 008b with his ProteusSF.exp and Solista 010622.bin book (All inside zip)

https://banksiagui.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=132#p132

Kind regards, Alex
Alex, your huge ProteusSF.exp is a FIASCO! Look at the two tests: the first is with Sarona.exp file (a good one) -56%; the second is with this catastrophic huge mixture-only 52%. In both tests I used the same opponent, the same conditions. Proteus played without a book (to highlight the contribution of the experience files). Probably you merged Sarona.exp with another large experience file, but ...... attention: or the files were probably trained with games having different TC, or the data was not well filtered, or ..... (Nobel in exp files) Maestro deeds (Chess2U) can enlighten you well. Any test (currently) is useless.

Image

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Matches conditions:

-TC=4'+2"
-Hash=256 MB
-GUI: Arena 3.5.1
-Books: SuperGM_4mvs.abk (8 plies book) only for Fat Titz 2
-default settings for both engines
-1 thread-CPU=Intel i5-7400-3GHz (Kaby Lake)
-TBS: 6-men Syzygy bases for both engines
-OS: Windows 10 Home.
Thank you for the test, but you used ProteusSF RBE 008a, not ProteusSF RBE 008b that's very different despite the similar name, It has all my old mods that change his style, you have not used Predator 2.2.bin or Solista 010622.bin included in the package as suggested and the results are not bad since it has won even so. PS: You continue to use Fat Titz 2.0 thats is very old (obsolete). I've never trained ProteusSF against it, so It's all normal. And a lot of other Playchess tests are very positive with this merged exp. https://www.chess2u.com/t18076p375-prot ... ive#117036

https://www.chess2u.com/t18076p375-prot ... ive#117049

And watch what there is MIXED inside Fat Titz 2.0 nnue (on right)... Now I think it's truly only a joke :shock:

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Kind regards, Alex
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Re: My test for ProteusChessSFv004-avx2

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AlexChess wrote: Sun Jun 05, 2022 10:13 am
1.-but you used ProteusSF RBE 008a, not ProteusSF RBE 008b or that is very different,
2.-and even not Predator 2.2.bin or Solista 010622.bin included in the package, and the results are not bad since it has won even so.
3.-You continue to use Fat Titz 2.0 thats is very old (obsolete). I've never trained ProteusSF against it, so It's all normal.

Kind regards, Alex
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1.-Not at all. Both use the same erroneous merged huge experience file.
2.Of course not. I was interested in the quality of the experience file (compared to the one I use on StockfishMZ-a fantastic one). Otherwise with a book made by Solista can win a match even Brutus RND (232 Elo points in CCRL Blitz rating list).
3.-Oldie but goodie!

Here was a good experience file (and...no book):

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Re: My test for ProteusChessSFv004-avx2

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AlexChess wrote: Sun Jun 05, 2022 10:13 am
And watch what there is MIXED inside Fat Titz 2.0 nnue (on right)... Now I think it's truly only a joke :shock:
It was discussed months ago on TalkChess! :lol:
HalfKAv2-2048x2-64-64-1 evaluation network is not a joke. One of the best !

Here is the original thread:
forum3/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=79112&start=20#p918915

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Re: My test for ProteusChessSFv004-avx2

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Sylwy wrote: Sun Jun 05, 2022 10:32 am
AlexChess wrote: Sun Jun 05, 2022 10:13 am
1.-but you used ProteusSF RBE 008a, not ProteusSF RBE 008b or that is very different,

Kind regards, Alex

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1.-Not at all. Both use the same erroneous merged huge experience file.
Yes also SugaR, StockfishMZ, Hypnos, Eman could use the same exp file.

Is the ProteusSF RBE 008b source that is different:

The merged file contains also Sarona's ProteusSF.exp. They are merged not mixed as in a milk shake.

And it has won against your oldie :wink:

https://banksiagui.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=132#p132
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