Gligoric-Smyslov, 1959

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Re: Gligoric-Smyslov, 1959

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Lyudmil Tsvetkov wrote: Qb7

[d]8/1q3k2/1r4p1/pr1bPpPp/2pP1P2/2P3K1/R1B4R/3Q4 w - - 0 25
SF plays Qc1 with eval 0
[d]8/1q3k2/1r4p1/pr1bPpPp/2pP1P2/2P3K1/R1B4R/2Q5 b - - 11 29

Wish I could let SF look deeper here, but must leave now for a couple of hours.
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Re: Gligoric-Smyslov, 1959

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zullil wrote:
Lyudmil Tsvetkov wrote: Qb7

[d]8/1q3k2/1r4p1/pr1bPpPp/2pP1P2/2P3K1/R1B4R/3Q4 w - - 0 25
SF plays Qc1 with eval 0
[d]8/1q3k2/1r4p1/pr1bPpPp/2pP1P2/2P3K1/R1B4R/2Q5 b - - 11 29

Wish I could let SF look deeper here, but must leave now for a couple of hours.
Ra6

[d]8/1q3k2/r5p1/pr1bPpPp/2pP1P2/2P3K1/R1B4R/2Q5 w - - 0 26
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Re: Gligoric-Smyslov, 1959

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Lyudmil Tsvetkov wrote:
zullil wrote:
Lyudmil Tsvetkov wrote: Qb7

[d]8/1q3k2/1r4p1/pr1bPpPp/2pP1P2/2P3K1/R1B4R/3Q4 w - - 0 25
SF plays Qc1 with eval 0
[d]8/1q3k2/1r4p1/pr1bPpPp/2pP1P2/2P3K1/R1B4R/2Q5 b - - 11 29

Wish I could let SF look deeper here, but must leave now for a couple of hours.
Ra6

[d]8/1q3k2/r5p1/pr1bPpPp/2pP1P2/2P3K1/R1B4R/2Q5 w - - 0 26
Here you have a choice. SF's reply to your Ra6 is Qa1 with an evaluation of 22 in favor of Black.
[d]8/1q3k2/r5p1/pr1bPpPp/2pP1P2/2P3K1/R1B4R/Q7 b - - 13 30

However, SF eventually preferred Qa1 to Qc1 one move ago. Indeed, when I returned after posting Qc1, SF had switched to Qa1. So you can reply to the position above and we can continue, or, going back one move, you can reply to the following instead:
[d]8/1q3k2/1r4p1/pr1bPpPp/2pP1P2/2P3K1/R1B4R/Q7 b - - 11 29
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Re: Gligoric-Smyslov, 1959

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zullil wrote:
Lyudmil Tsvetkov wrote:
zullil wrote:
Lyudmil Tsvetkov wrote: Qb7

[d]8/1q3k2/1r4p1/pr1bPpPp/2pP1P2/2P3K1/R1B4R/3Q4 w - - 0 25
SF plays Qc1 with eval 0
[d]8/1q3k2/1r4p1/pr1bPpPp/2pP1P2/2P3K1/R1B4R/2Q5 b - - 11 29

Wish I could let SF look deeper here, but must leave now for a couple of hours.
Ra6

[d]8/1q3k2/r5p1/pr1bPpPp/2pP1P2/2P3K1/R1B4R/2Q5 w - - 0 26
Here you have a choice. SF's reply to your Ra6 is Qa1 with an evaluation of 22 in favor of Black.
[d]8/1q3k2/r5p1/pr1bPpPp/2pP1P2/2P3K1/R1B4R/Q7 b - - 13 30

However, SF eventually preferred Qa1 to Qc1 one move ago. Indeed, when I returned after posting Qc1, SF had switched to Qa1. So you can reply to the position above and we can continue, or, going back one move, you can reply to the following instead:
[d]8/1q3k2/1r4p1/pr1bPpPp/2pP1P2/2P3K1/R1B4R/Q7 b - - 11 29
Let's first finish that one, then we might look into other options.
The game is not competitive, but the main point is to decide which side the position favours.

So, 22 centipawns in favour of black. :)

I wonder where are now Bram and Peter.

Where are you, Bram?
Peter, do you still have the cheekiness to post in this thread?

Kg7

[d]8/1q4k1/r5p1/pr1bPpPp/2pP1P2/2P3K1/R1B4R/Q7 w - - 0 29
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Re: Gligoric-Smyslov, 1959

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Lyudmil Tsvetkov wrote:So, 22 centipawns in favour of black. :)

I wonder where are now Bram and Peter.

I'm here, Lyudmil, shall we already open the champagne because of those 22 cp from a machine you always want to teach to evaluate or will there come even more?
:)
Lyudmil Tsvetkov wrote: Peter, do you still have the cheekiness to post in this thread?
I do, Lyudmil.
Even if you gain great hope that you could have waited long enough for SF's blunder, you still could be wrong.
:)

And then be sure, if you really win this, that we'll have to look for the white blunder as well as you were looking for the black ones by simply starting all over again twice being supported by the engine you're playing against all the time anyhow.
:)
Peter.
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Re: Gligoric-Smyslov, 1959

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Lyudmil Tsvetkov wrote: Kg7

[d]8/1q4k1/r5p1/pr1bPpPp/2pP1P2/2P3K1/R1B4R/Q7 w - - 0 29
OK. SF says Bd1 with score 0.
[d]8/1q4k1/r5p1/pr1bPpPp/2pP1P2/2P3K1/R6R/Q2B4 b - - 15 31
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Re: Gligoric-Smyslov, 1959

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zullil wrote:
Lyudmil Tsvetkov wrote: Kg7

[d]8/1q4k1/r5p1/pr1bPpPp/2pP1P2/2P3K1/R1B4R/Q7 w - - 0 29
OK. SF says Bd1 with score 0.
[d]8/1q4k1/r5p1/pr1bPpPp/2pP1P2/2P3K1/R6R/Q2B4 b - - 15 31
Bh1

[d]8/1q4k1/r5p1/pr2PpPp/2pP1P2/2P3K1/R6R/Q2B3b w - - 0 28
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Re: Gligoric-Smyslov, 1959

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Lyudmil Tsvetkov wrote: Bh1

[d]8/1q4k1/r5p1/pr2PpPp/2pP1P2/2P3K1/R6R/Q2B3b w - - 0 28
Rhf2 with evaluation 15cp for Black:
[d]8/1q4k1/r5p1/pr2PpPp/2pP1P2/2P3K1/R4R2/Q2B3b b - - 17 32
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Re: Gligoric-Smyslov, 1959

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zullil wrote:
Lyudmil Tsvetkov wrote: Bh1

[d]8/1q4k1/r5p1/pr2PpPp/2pP1P2/2P3K1/R6R/Q2B3b w - - 0 28
Rhf2 with evaluation 15cp for Black:
[d]8/1q4k1/r5p1/pr2PpPp/2pP1P2/2P3K1/R4R2/Q2B3b b - - 17 32
Rab6

[d]8/1q4k1/1r4p1/pr2PpPp/2pP1P2/2P3K1/R4R2/Q2B3b w - - 0 29
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Re: Gligoric-Smyslov, 1959

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Lyudmil Tsvetkov wrote: Rab6

[d]8/1q4k1/1r4p1/pr2PpPp/2pP1P2/2P3K1/R4R2/Q2B3b w - - 0 29
Rad2, and back to score of 0:
[d]8/1q4k1/1r4p1/pr2PpPp/2pP1P2/2P3K1/3R1R2/Q2B3b b - - 19 33