We are reaching the Max Odds that a top engine can give the top 3 GM's

[amanjpro]

I do NOT know exactly what is the minimum rating for an engine to beat either Stockfish13 NNUE or Komodo Dragon2 MCTS with a Knight odds, but it could be in the range of 2300 CCRL to 2400, anyway I tried Dragon 4.6 rated 2417 and it beat Stockfish easily probably other people will test engine lower than 2417 with Komodo Dragon 2 MCTS comtempt =150
[pgn]
[Event "Computer chess game"]
[Site "MININT-UB2PIMJ"]
[Date "2021.05.31"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Stockfish_21052415_x64_bmi2"]
[Black "Dragon 4.6"]
[Result "1-0"]
[BlackElo "2417"]
[Time "19:21:59"]
[WhiteElo "3500"]
[TimeControl "900+1"]
[SetUp "1"]
[FEN "rnbqkbnr/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/RNBQKB1R w KQkq - 0 1"]
[Termination "normal"]
[PlyCount "83"]
[WhiteType "program"]
[BlackType "program"]

1. e4 e5 2. d4 Qh4 3. Nc3 Bb4 4. dxe5 Qxe4+ 5. Qe2 Bxc3+ 6. bxc3 Qxe2+ 7.
Bxe2 Nc6 8. Bb2 Nxe5 9. c4 f6 10. O-O-O Ne7 11. Rhe1 O-O 12. f4 N5c6 13.
Bf3 d6 14. g4 Ng6 15. c5 dxc5 16. Bxc6 bxc6 17. f5 Nf4 18. Re4 Nd5 19. c4
Nb6 20. Ba3 Ba6 21. Bxc5 Rfe8 22. Rde1 Rxe4 23. Rxe4 Bxc4 24. a3 Bf1 25. h4
Nd7 26. Bb4 c5 27. Ba5 Nb6 28. Re7 Nc4 29. Bxc7 Nxa3 30. g5 Nb5 31. Ba5 Bh3
32. gxf6 gxf6 33. Kd1 Bxf5 34. Rb7 a6 35. Rb6 Rd8+ 36. Ke2 Rd6 37. Rb8+ Kf7
38. h5 c4 39. Kf2 Rc6 40. Rb7+ Ke6 41. Rb8 c3 42. Bb6 {White resigns} *[/pgn]

When you post an engine game, you should always include the time limit at least, that's vital info. I'm guessing 15' + 10", but just a guess. I suppose it is single thread, but this is also important to state.
Since you have so many of the near or under 2000 ccrl engines and post games with them, perhaps you can tell what engine, if any, you are able to score about evenly against yourself in blitz, say 3' + 2"? I think you estimated your rating to be in the 1900 to 2000 range, so I'm guess it would be an engine a few hundred elo below that, but "a few" is not a number. Anyone else with a known blitz rating (server or FIDE) who can name an engine which they are evenly matched with, no matter how weak, please post here (and specify hardware and threads). Or it can be a Skill level on a strong engine.

I am tire today I just came from work and after that got an hour training with my Chess trainer online, I will try another day against an engine close to 1800 since CCRL rating is equal to 150 to 200 stronger than human. I strongly recommend you to try against Dragon 4.6 rated around 2417 by CCR, or Zahak rated 2415. Or Komodo Dragon 2 MCTS contempt = 150 against these two with a Knight odds.

256‑257 Dragon 4.6 2417 +8 −8 48.5% +11.0 24.6% 7652
47.4%
256‑257 Snitch 1.6.2 32-bit 2417 +10 −10 46.5% +27.8 25.0% 3997
56.6%
258 Zahak 3.0 64-bit 2415 +26 −26 66.6% −126.1 21.3% 559
54.7%

I don't have Komodo installed, but I'll be very interested to see how does Zahak perform against Komodo in a long timecontrol 15"+2' with Knight odds.

You can download Zahak here: https://github.com/amanjpro/zahak/releases/tag/3.0

[lkaufman]

TC was 15'+1" for both and single thread for both, but I strongly believe that with either Knight b1 or Knight g1 odds the 1. e4 Opening is bad for White

Here it is with the 1. d4 opening for White

[pgn][Event "Computer chess game"]
[Site "MININT-UB2PIMJ"]
[Date "2021.05.31"]
[Round "2"]
[White "Stockfish_21052415_x64_bmi2"]
[Black "Dragon 4.6"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[BlackElo "2417"]
[Time "20:26:09"]
[WhiteElo "3500"]
[TimeControl "900+1"]
[SetUp "1"]
[FEN "rnbqkbnr/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/RNBQKB1R w KQkq - 0 1"]
[Termination "adjudication"]
[PlyCount "110"]
[WhiteType "program"]
[BlackType "program"]

1. d4 d5 2. c4 dxc4 3. e3 Be6 4. e4 c6 5. Nc3 Nf6 6. Be2 b5 7. Bf3 Na6 8.
O-O Nb4 9. a4 a6 10. axb5 axb5 11. Rxa8 Qxa8 12. b3 cxb3 13. d5 cxd5 14.
Qxb3 dxe4 15. Qxb4 exf3 16. Nxb5 Nd5 17. Rd1 Qc6 18. Qa5 f6 19. Nd4 Qc7 20.
Qxc7 Nxc7 21. Bf4 Bd5 22. Bxc7 fxg2 23. Ne2 e6 24. Nf4 Kd7 25. Ba5 Kc6 26.
Re1 Bd6 27. Nxe6 Ra8 28. Bc3 Ra3 29. Nd8+ Kb5 30. Rd1 Kc4 31. Rd4+ Kc5 32.
Ne6+ Bxe6 33. Rxd6 Kxd6 34. Bb4+ Ke5 35. Bxa3 Bd5 36. Bf8 g5 37. Be7 h5 38.
Bb4 Kf4 39. Be7 f5 40. Bf6 h4 41. Be7 h3 42. Bc5 g4 43. Bd6+ Ke4 44. Bb8 f4
45. Bc7 Bf7 46. Bd8 g3 47. fxg3 fxg3 48. hxg3 Kf3 49. g4 Kxg4 50. Kh2 Be6
51. Bf6 Kf3 52. Bh4 Ke2 53. Be7 Kf1 54. Bc5 Bg4 55. Bd4 Bf5[/pgn]

1.e4 is indeed a bad opening move with Nb1 missing, due to 1...d5, or even 1..e5 2.Nf3 d5. But I don't think there is anything wrong with it as a first move with Ng1 off the board.

[lkaufman]

I do NOT know exactly what is the minimum rating for an engine to beat either Stockfish13 NNUE or Komodo Dragon2 MCTS with a Knight odds, but it could be in the range of 2300 CCRL to 2400, anyway I tried Dragon 4.6 rated 2417 and it beat Stockfish easily probably other people will test engine lower than 2417 with Komodo Dragon 2 MCTS comtempt =150
[pgn]
[Event "Computer chess game"]
[Site "MININT-UB2PIMJ"]
[Date "2021.05.31"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Stockfish_21052415_x64_bmi2"]
[Black "Dragon 4.6"]
[Result "1-0"]
[BlackElo "2417"]
[Time "19:21:59"]
[WhiteElo "3500"]
[TimeControl "900+1"]
[SetUp "1"]
[FEN "rnbqkbnr/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/RNBQKB1R w KQkq - 0 1"]
[Termination "normal"]
[PlyCount "83"]
[WhiteType "program"]
[BlackType "program"]

1. e4 e5 2. d4 Qh4 3. Nc3 Bb4 4. dxe5 Qxe4+ 5. Qe2 Bxc3+ 6. bxc3 Qxe2+ 7.
Bxe2 Nc6 8. Bb2 Nxe5 9. c4 f6 10. O-O-O Ne7 11. Rhe1 O-O 12. f4 N5c6 13.
Bf3 d6 14. g4 Ng6 15. c5 dxc5 16. Bxc6 bxc6 17. f5 Nf4 18. Re4 Nd5 19. c4
Nb6 20. Ba3 Ba6 21. Bxc5 Rfe8 22. Rde1 Rxe4 23. Rxe4 Bxc4 24. a3 Bf1 25. h4
Nd7 26. Bb4 c5 27. Ba5 Nb6 28. Re7 Nc4 29. Bxc7 Nxa3 30. g5 Nb5 31. Ba5 Bh3
32. gxf6 gxf6 33. Kd1 Bxf5 34. Rb7 a6 35. Rb6 Rd8+ 36. Ke2 Rd6 37. Rb8+ Kf7
38. h5 c4 39. Kf2 Rc6 40. Rb7+ Ke6 41. Rb8 c3 42. Bb6 {White resigns} *[/pgn]

When you post an engine game, you should always include the time limit at least, that's vital info. I'm guessing 15' + 10", but just a guess. I suppose it is single thread, but this is also important to state.
Since you have so many of the near or under 2000 ccrl engines and post games with them, perhaps you can tell what engine, if any, you are able to score about evenly against yourself in blitz, say 3' + 2"? I think you estimated your rating to be in the 1900 to 2000 range, so I'm guess it would be an engine a few hundred elo below that, but "a few" is not a number. Anyone else with a known blitz rating (server or FIDE) who can name an engine which they are evenly matched with, no matter how weak, please post here (and specify hardware and threads). Or it can be a Skill level on a strong engine.

I am tire today I just came from work and after that got an hour training with my Chess trainer online, I will try another day against an engine close to 1800 since CCRL rating is equal to 150 to 200 stronger than human. I strongly recommend you to try against Dragon 4.6 rated around 2417 by CCR, or Zahak rated 2415. Or Komodo Dragon 2 MCTS contempt = 150 against these two with a Knight odds.

256‑257 Dragon 4.6 2417 +8 −8 48.5% +11.0 24.6% 7652
47.4%
256‑257 Snitch 1.6.2 32-bit 2417 +10 −10 46.5% +27.8 25.0% 3997
56.6%
258 Zahak 3.0 64-bit 2415 +26 −26 66.6% −126.1 21.3% 559
54.7%

I don't have Komodo installed, but I'll be very interested to see how does Zahak perform against Komodo in a long timecontrol 15"+2' with Knight odds.

You can download Zahak here: https://github.com/amanjpro/zahak/releases/tag/3.0

I'm working on a new "humanized" rating list for engines and levels based on a new method, no one else has done this yet. I've already got significant data for the rating differences of quite a few engines (including your Zahak) at blitz (I'm defining blitz as 3' + 2" since that seems to be the most popular blitz time control using increments among humans, and it is also the FIDE World Blitz Championship time control), but I don't yet have enough data at this tc between engines and humans to specify the level of the list. I'm doing the same for Rapid (15' + 10"), but that will take longer. I can run some Dragon2 vs Zahak games at your 15' +2" suggested tc soon at knight odds (alternating, using ChrisW knight odds opening book for variety, positions from the middle of the list). I think that Dragon will come out ahead, but I could be wrong.

[Chessqueen]

I don't have Komodo installed, but I'll be very interested to see how does Zahak perform against Komodo in a long timecontrol 15"+2' with Knight odds.

You can download Zahak here: https://github.com/amanjpro/zahak/releases/tag/3.0

TC is 15'+1 using intel 17 3.40 Ghz both using 1 thread

[pgn][Event "Computer chess game"]
[Site "MININT-UB2PIMJ"]
[Date "2021.06.01"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Stockfish_21052415_x64_bmi2"]
[Black "Zahak-windows-386-3.0"]
[Result "1-0"]
[BlackElo "2415"]
[Time "09:12:54"]
[WhiteElo "3500"]
[TimeControl "900+1"]
[SetUp "1"]
[FEN "rnbqkbnr/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/RNBQKB1R w KQkq - 0 1"]
[Termination "normal"]
[PlyCount "76"]
[WhiteType "program"]
[BlackType "program"]

1. e4 e5 2. d4 exd4 3. Qxd4 Nc6 4. Qd3 Nf6 5. Nc3 Bb4 6. Bd2 O-O 7. O-O-O
Re8 8. f3 d6 9. Bf4 Be6 10. Kb1 Bc5 11. h4 Nh5 12. Bh2 Nf6 13. Be2 a6 14.
g4 Nd7 15. f4 Bd4 16. Bf3 Nc5 17. Qd2 Nd7 18. g5 Nb6 19. Bg1 Bxg1 20. Rhxg1
a5 21. h5 a4 22. h6 Nc4 23. Qf2 g6 24. Nd5 Bxd5 25. exd5 N6a5 26. Qd4 f6
27. Rge1 Qd7 28. gxf6 Rxe1 29. Rxe1 Kf8 30. f7 Qxf7 31. Bg4 Nd2+ 32. Ka1
Nf3 33. Bxf3 c5 34. dxc6 bxc6 35. Bg4 Nc4 36. Be6 Ke7 37. Bxf7+ Ne5 38.
fxe5 d5 {Black resigns} *[/pgn]

[amanjpro]

I don't have Komodo installed, but I'll be very interested to see how does Zahak perform against Komodo in a long timecontrol 15"+2' with Knight odds.

You can download Zahak here: https://github.com/amanjpro/zahak/releases/tag/3.0

TC is 15'+1 using intel 17 3.40 Ghz both using 1 thread

[pgn][Event "Computer chess game"]
[Site "MININT-UB2PIMJ"]
[Date "2021.06.01"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Stockfish_21052415_x64_bmi2"]
[Black "Zahak-windows-386-3.0"]
[Result "*"]
[BlackElo "2415"]
[Time "09:12:54"]
[WhiteElo "3500"]
[TimeControl "900+1"]
[SetUp "1"]
[FEN "rnbqkbnr/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/RNBQKB1R w KQkq - 0 1"]
[Termination "normal"]
[PlyCount "76"]
[WhiteType "program"]
[BlackType "program"]

1. e4 e5 2. d4 exd4 3. Qxd4 Nc6 4. Qd3 Nf6 5. Nc3 Bb4 6. Bd2 O-O 7. O-O-O
Re8 8. f3 d6 9. Bf4 Be6 10. Kb1 Bc5 11. h4 Nh5 12. Bh2 Nf6 13. Be2 a6 14.
g4 Nd7 15. f4 Bd4 16. Bf3 Nc5 17. Qd2 Nd7 18. g5 Nb6 19. Bg1 Bxg1 20. Rhxg1
a5 21. h5 a4 22. h6 Nc4 23. Qf2 g6 24. Nd5 Bxd5 25. exd5 N6a5 26. Qd4 f6
27. Rge1 Qd7 28. gxf6 Rxe1 29. Rxe1 Kf8 30. f7 Qxf7 31. Bg4 Nd2+ 32. Ka1
Nf3 33. Bxf3 c5 34. dxc6 bxc6 35. Bg4 Nc4 36. Be6 Ke7 37. Bxf7+ Ne5 38.
fxe5 d5 {Black resigns} *[/pgn]

Wow well played by stockfish. You somehow used 32 bit build for Zahak but 64 bit for Stockfish. This in theory also handicaps Zahak, probably it was playing at 2000 level or less. You probably want to use https://github.com/amanjpro/zahak/relea ... 64-3.0.exe instead

[Chessqueen]

I don't have Komodo installed, but I'll be very interested to see how does Zahak perform against Komodo in a long timecontrol 15"+2' with Knight odds.

You can download Zahak here: https://github.com/amanjpro/zahak/releases/tag/3.0

TC is 15'+1 using intel 17 3.40 Ghz both using 1 thread

[pgn][Event "Computer chess game"]
[Site "MININT-UB2PIMJ"]
[Date "2021.06.01"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Stockfish_21052415_x64_bmi2"]
[Black "Zahak-windows-386-3.0"]
[Result "*"]
[BlackElo "2415"]
[Time "09:12:54"]
[WhiteElo "3500"]
[TimeControl "900+1"]
[SetUp "1"]
[FEN "rnbqkbnr/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/RNBQKB1R w KQkq - 0 1"]
[Termination "normal"]
[PlyCount "76"]
[WhiteType "program"]
[BlackType "program"]

1. e4 e5 2. d4 exd4 3. Qxd4 Nc6 4. Qd3 Nf6 5. Nc3 Bb4 6. Bd2 O-O 7. O-O-O
Re8 8. f3 d6 9. Bf4 Be6 10. Kb1 Bc5 11. h4 Nh5 12. Bh2 Nf6 13. Be2 a6 14.
g4 Nd7 15. f4 Bd4 16. Bf3 Nc5 17. Qd2 Nd7 18. g5 Nb6 19. Bg1 Bxg1 20. Rhxg1
a5 21. h5 a4 22. h6 Nc4 23. Qf2 g6 24. Nd5 Bxd5 25. exd5 N6a5 26. Qd4 f6
27. Rge1 Qd7 28. gxf6 Rxe1 29. Rxe1 Kf8 30. f7 Qxf7 31. Bg4 Nd2+ 32. Ka1
Nf3 33. Bxf3 c5 34. dxc6 bxc6 35. Bg4 Nc4 36. Be6 Ke7 37. Bxf7+ Ne5 38.
fxe5 d5 {Black resigns} *[/pgn]

Wow well played by stockfish. You somehow used 32 bit build for Zahak but 64 bit for Stockfish. This in theory also handicaps Zahak, probably it was playing at 2000 level or less. You probably want to use https://github.com/amanjpro/zahak/relea ... 64-3.0.exe instead

[pgn][Event "Computer chess game"]
[Site "MININT-UB2PIMJ"]
[Date "2021.06.01"]
[Round "2"]
[White "Stockfish_21052415_x64_bmi2"]
[Black "Zahak-windows-amd64-3.0"]
[Result "1-0"]
[BlackElo "2435"]
[Time "10:26:47"]
[WhiteElo "3500"]
[TimeControl "900+1"]
[SetUp "1"]
[FEN "rnbqkbnr/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/RNBQKB1R w KQkq - 0 1"]
[Termination "normal"]
[PlyCount "110"]
[WhiteType "program"]
[BlackType "program"]

1. e4 e5 2. d4 exd4 3. Qxd4 Nf6 4. Bg5 Nc6 5. Bxf6 Nxd4 6. Bxd8 Nxc2+ 7.
Kd1 Nxa1 8. Bxc7 d6 9. Ba5 Be6 10. Nc3 Be7 11. Bb5+ Kf8 12. f4 a6 13. Bd3
b6 14. Bb4 b5 15. Nd5 a5 16. Bd2 a4 17. Bb4 Bxd5 18. exd5 Bf6 19. Bxd6+ Kg8
20. Be5 Bxe5 21. fxe5 a3 22. b4 Ra4 23. Kd2 Rxb4 24. Rxa1 Rb2+ 25. Ke3 g6
26. Rc1 Kg7 27. Rc7 Rxa2 28. e6 Rxg2 29. Rxf7+ Kh6 30. Ra7 Rg5 31. Kd4 Rg4+
32. Ke5 Rg5+ 33. Ke4 Rg4+ 34. Ke5 Rg5+ 35. Ke4 b4 36. d6 Rg1 37. d7 Re1+
38. Kd5 Kg5 39. Bc4 Kf6 40. Kd6 Rd8 41. Bd5 Rd1 42. Ra5 Re1 43. Rc5 b3 44.
Bxb3 Re2 45. Bd5 g5 46. Rc3 g4 47. Rxa3 Rd2 48. Ra2 Rd1 49. Rf2+ Kg7 50.
Rc2 g3 51. hxg3 Re1 52. Rc8 Re3 53. Rxd8 Rxg3 54. Ra8 Kh6 55. d8=Q Kh5
{Black resigns} *[/pgn]

[amanjpro]

I don't have Komodo installed, but I'll be very interested to see how does Zahak perform against Komodo in a long timecontrol 15"+2' with Knight odds.

You can download Zahak here: https://github.com/amanjpro/zahak/releases/tag/3.0

TC is 15'+1 using intel 17 3.40 Ghz both using 1 thread

[pgn][Event "Computer chess game"]
[Site "MININT-UB2PIMJ"]
[Date "2021.06.01"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Stockfish_21052415_x64_bmi2"]
[Black "Zahak-windows-386-3.0"]
[Result "*"]
[BlackElo "2415"]
[Time "09:12:54"]
[WhiteElo "3500"]
[TimeControl "900+1"]
[SetUp "1"]
[FEN "rnbqkbnr/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/RNBQKB1R w KQkq - 0 1"]
[Termination "normal"]
[PlyCount "76"]
[WhiteType "program"]
[BlackType "program"]

1. e4 e5 2. d4 exd4 3. Qxd4 Nc6 4. Qd3 Nf6 5. Nc3 Bb4 6. Bd2 O-O 7. O-O-O
Re8 8. f3 d6 9. Bf4 Be6 10. Kb1 Bc5 11. h4 Nh5 12. Bh2 Nf6 13. Be2 a6 14.
g4 Nd7 15. f4 Bd4 16. Bf3 Nc5 17. Qd2 Nd7 18. g5 Nb6 19. Bg1 Bxg1 20. Rhxg1
a5 21. h5 a4 22. h6 Nc4 23. Qf2 g6 24. Nd5 Bxd5 25. exd5 N6a5 26. Qd4 f6
27. Rge1 Qd7 28. gxf6 Rxe1 29. Rxe1 Kf8 30. f7 Qxf7 31. Bg4 Nd2+ 32. Ka1
Nf3 33. Bxf3 c5 34. dxc6 bxc6 35. Bg4 Nc4 36. Be6 Ke7 37. Bxf7+ Ne5 38.
fxe5 d5 {Black resigns} *[/pgn]

Wow well played by stockfish. You somehow used 32 bit build for Zahak but 64 bit for Stockfish. This in theory also handicaps Zahak, probably it was playing at 2000 level or less. You probably want to use https://github.com/amanjpro/zahak/relea ... 64-3.0.exe instead

[pgn][Event "Computer chess game"]
[Site "MININT-UB2PIMJ"]
[Date "2021.06.01"]
[Round "2"]
[White "Stockfish_21052415_x64_bmi2"]
[Black "Zahak-windows-amd64-3.0"]
[Result "1-0"]
[BlackElo "2435"]
[Time "10:26:47"]
[WhiteElo "3500"]
[TimeControl "900+1"]
[SetUp "1"]
[FEN "rnbqkbnr/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/RNBQKB1R w KQkq - 0 1"]
[Termination "normal"]
[PlyCount "110"]
[WhiteType "program"]
[BlackType "program"]

1. e4 e5 2. d4 exd4 3. Qxd4 Nf6 4. Bg5 Nc6 5. Bxf6 Nxd4 6. Bxd8 Nxc2+ 7.
Kd1 Nxa1 8. Bxc7 d6 9. Ba5 Be6 10. Nc3 Be7 11. Bb5+ Kf8 12. f4 a6 13. Bd3
b6 14. Bb4 b5 15. Nd5 a5 16. Bd2 a4 17. Bb4 Bxd5 18. exd5 Bf6 19. Bxd6+ Kg8
20. Be5 Bxe5 21. fxe5 a3 22. b4 Ra4 23. Kd2 Rxb4 24. Rxa1 Rb2+ 25. Ke3 g6
26. Rc1 Kg7 27. Rc7 Rxa2 28. e6 Rxg2 29. Rxf7+ Kh6 30. Ra7 Rg5 31. Kd4 Rg4+
32. Ke5 Rg5+ 33. Ke4 Rg4+ 34. Ke5 Rg5+ 35. Ke4 b4 36. d6 Rg1 37. d7 Re1+
38. Kd5 Kg5 39. Bc4 Kf6 40. Kd6 Rd8 41. Bd5 Rd1 42. Ra5 Re1 43. Rc5 b3 44.
Bxb3 Re2 45. Bd5 g5 46. Rc3 g4 47. Rxa3 Rd2 48. Ra2 Rd1 49. Rf2+ Kg7 50.
Rc2 g3 51. hxg3 Re1 52. Rc8 Re3 53. Rxd8 Rxg3 54. Ra8 Kh6 55. d8=Q Kh5
{Black resigns} *[/pgn]

Thank you for trying it... And very well played Stockfish... That was some amazing attack/strategy

[Chessqueen]

I do NOT know exactly what is the minimum rating for an engine to beat either Stockfish13 NNUE or Komodo Dragon2 MCTS with a Knight odds, but it could be in the range of 2300 CCRL to 2400, anyway I tried Dragon 4.6 rated 2417 and it beat Stockfish easily probably other people will test engine lower than 2417 with Komodo Dragon 2 MCTS comtempt =150
[pgn]
[Event "Computer chess game"]
[Site "MININT-UB2PIMJ"]
[Date "2021.05.31"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Stockfish_21052415_x64_bmi2"]
[Black "Dragon 4.6"]
[Result "1-0"]
[BlackElo "2417"]
[Time "19:21:59"]
[WhiteElo "3500"]
[TimeControl "900+1"]
[SetUp "1"]
[FEN "rnbqkbnr/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/RNBQKB1R w KQkq - 0 1"]
[Termination "normal"]
[PlyCount "83"]
[WhiteType "program"]
[BlackType "program"]

1. e4 e5 2. d4 Qh4 3. Nc3 Bb4 4. dxe5 Qxe4+ 5. Qe2 Bxc3+ 6. bxc3 Qxe2+ 7.
Bxe2 Nc6 8. Bb2 Nxe5 9. c4 f6 10. O-O-O Ne7 11. Rhe1 O-O 12. f4 N5c6 13.
Bf3 d6 14. g4 Ng6 15. c5 dxc5 16. Bxc6 bxc6 17. f5 Nf4 18. Re4 Nd5 19. c4
Nb6 20. Ba3 Ba6 21. Bxc5 Rfe8 22. Rde1 Rxe4 23. Rxe4 Bxc4 24. a3 Bf1 25. h4
Nd7 26. Bb4 c5 27. Ba5 Nb6 28. Re7 Nc4 29. Bxc7 Nxa3 30. g5 Nb5 31. Ba5 Bh3
32. gxf6 gxf6 33. Kd1 Bxf5 34. Rb7 a6 35. Rb6 Rd8+ 36. Ke2 Rd6 37. Rb8+ Kf7
38. h5 c4 39. Kf2 Rc6 40. Rb7+ Ke6 41. Rb8 c3 42. Bb6 {White resigns} *[/pgn]

When you post an engine game, you should always include the time limit at least, that's vital info. I'm guessing 15' + 10", but just a guess. I suppose it is single thread, but this is also important to state.
Since you have so many of the near or under 2000 ccrl engines and post games with them, perhaps you can tell what engine, if any, you are able to score about evenly against yourself in blitz, say 3' + 2"? I think you estimated your rating to be in the 1900 to 2000 range, so I'm guess it would be an engine a few hundred elo below that, but "a few" is not a number. Anyone else with a known blitz rating (server or FIDE) who can name an engine which they are evenly matched with, no matter how weak, please post here (and specify hardware and threads). Or it can be a Skill level on a strong engine.

I was losing on time and I offer a draw

[pgn][Event "Computer chess game"]
[Site "MININT-UB2PIMJ"]
[Date "2021.06.01"]
[Round "?"]
[White "ChessQueen"]
[Black "Snowy_0_2_x64"]
[Result "*"]
[BlackElo "1977"]
[ECO "A46"]
[Opening "Indian"]
[Time "13:37:42"]
[Variation "2.Nf3 e6 3.c3"]
[WhiteElo "?"]
[TimeControl "600+1"]
[Termination "adjudication"]
[PlyCount "53"]
[WhiteType "human"]
[BlackType "program"]

1. d4 Nf6 2. Nf3 e6 3. c3 d5 4. Bg5 Nc6 5. Ne5 h6 6. Bh4 Bd6 7. Qa4 Bd7 8.
Nxd7 Qxd7 9. Bxf6 gxf6 10. e3 Rg8 11. g3 O-O-O 12. Bb5 a6 13. Bxc6 Qxc6 14.
Qxc6 bxc6 15. Nd2 e5 16. Nb3 Kb7 17. Na5+ Kb6 18. b4 exd4 19. exd4 f5 20.
O-O f4 21. Rae1 fxg3 22. fxg3 h5 23. Rxf7 h4 24. Re3 hxg3 25. hxg3 Bxg3 26.
Kf1 Bh4
*[/pgn]

[lkaufman]

I do NOT know exactly what is the minimum rating for an engine to beat either Stockfish13 NNUE or Komodo Dragon2 MCTS with a Knight odds, but it could be in the range of 2300 CCRL to 2400, anyway I tried Dragon 4.6 rated 2417 and it beat Stockfish easily probably other people will test engine lower than 2417 with Komodo Dragon 2 MCTS comtempt =150
[pgn]
[Event "Computer chess game"]
[Site "MININT-UB2PIMJ"]
[Date "2021.05.31"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Stockfish_21052415_x64_bmi2"]
[Black "Dragon 4.6"]
[Result "1-0"]
[BlackElo "2417"]
[Time "19:21:59"]
[WhiteElo "3500"]
[TimeControl "900+1"]
[SetUp "1"]
[FEN "rnbqkbnr/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/RNBQKB1R w KQkq - 0 1"]
[Termination "normal"]
[PlyCount "83"]
[WhiteType "program"]
[BlackType "program"]

1. e4 e5 2. d4 Qh4 3. Nc3 Bb4 4. dxe5 Qxe4+ 5. Qe2 Bxc3+ 6. bxc3 Qxe2+ 7.
Bxe2 Nc6 8. Bb2 Nxe5 9. c4 f6 10. O-O-O Ne7 11. Rhe1 O-O 12. f4 N5c6 13.
Bf3 d6 14. g4 Ng6 15. c5 dxc5 16. Bxc6 bxc6 17. f5 Nf4 18. Re4 Nd5 19. c4
Nb6 20. Ba3 Ba6 21. Bxc5 Rfe8 22. Rde1 Rxe4 23. Rxe4 Bxc4 24. a3 Bf1 25. h4
Nd7 26. Bb4 c5 27. Ba5 Nb6 28. Re7 Nc4 29. Bxc7 Nxa3 30. g5 Nb5 31. Ba5 Bh3
32. gxf6 gxf6 33. Kd1 Bxf5 34. Rb7 a6 35. Rb6 Rd8+ 36. Ke2 Rd6 37. Rb8+ Kf7
38. h5 c4 39. Kf2 Rc6 40. Rb7+ Ke6 41. Rb8 c3 42. Bb6 {White resigns} *[/pgn]

When you post an engine game, you should always include the time limit at least, that's vital info. I'm guessing 15' + 10", but just a guess. I suppose it is single thread, but this is also important to state.
Since you have so many of the near or under 2000 ccrl engines and post games with them, perhaps you can tell what engine, if any, you are able to score about evenly against yourself in blitz, say 3' + 2"? I think you estimated your rating to be in the 1900 to 2000 range, so I'm guess it would be an engine a few hundred elo below that, but "a few" is not a number. Anyone else with a known blitz rating (server or FIDE) who can name an engine which they are evenly matched with, no matter how weak, please post here (and specify hardware and threads). Or it can be a Skill level on a strong engine.

I am tire today I just came from work and after that got an hour training with my Chess trainer online, I will try another day against an engine close to 1800 since CCRL rating is equal to 150 to 200 stronger than human. I strongly recommend you to try against Dragon 4.6 rated around 2417 by CCR, or Zahak rated 2415. Or Komodo Dragon 2 MCTS contempt = 150 against these two with a Knight odds.

256‑257 Dragon 4.6 2417 +8 −8 48.5% +11.0 24.6% 7652
47.4%
256‑257 Snitch 1.6.2 32-bit 2417 +10 −10 46.5% +27.8 25.0% 3997
56.6%
258 Zahak 3.0 64-bit 2415 +26 −26 66.6% −126.1 21.3% 559
54.7%

I don't have Komodo installed, but I'll be very interested to see how does Zahak perform against Komodo in a long timecontrol 15"+2' with Knight odds.

You can download Zahak here: https://github.com/amanjpro/zahak/releases/tag/3.0

OK, I ran 44 knight odds games (b1 and g1, ChrisW book, middle of the file) between KomodoDragon2 and Zahak3 (64 bit) on my I9 laptop, very fast machine which favors the program getting the handicap compared to slower hardware. It was quite a close match. Dragon won by 21 wins to 17 losses with four draws. I would say that this is a very good result for Zahak, because in previous testing, at the just marginally faster time limit of 10' + 5", Dragon performed close to 2600 on the CCRL rapid scale giving knight odds this way. I didn't see a Rapid rating for Zahak (that's probably why I missed the rating before, I must have looked at Rapid rather than Blitz); perhaps it gets better with more time?

[Chessqueen]

I do NOT know exactly what is the minimum rating for an engine to beat either Stockfish13 NNUE or Komodo Dragon2 MCTS with a Knight odds, but it could be in the range of 2300 CCRL to 2400, anyway I tried Dragon 4.6 rated 2417 and it beat Stockfish easily probably other people will test engine lower than 2417 with Komodo Dragon 2 MCTS comtempt =150
[pgn]
[Event "Computer chess game"]
[Site "MININT-UB2PIMJ"]
[Date "2021.05.31"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Stockfish_21052415_x64_bmi2"]
[Black "Dragon 4.6"]
[Result "1-0"]
[BlackElo "2417"]
[Time "19:21:59"]
[WhiteElo "3500"]
[TimeControl "900+1"]
[SetUp "1"]
[FEN "rnbqkbnr/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/RNBQKB1R w KQkq - 0 1"]
[Termination "normal"]
[PlyCount "83"]
[WhiteType "program"]
[BlackType "program"]

1. e4 e5 2. d4 Qh4 3. Nc3 Bb4 4. dxe5 Qxe4+ 5. Qe2 Bxc3+ 6. bxc3 Qxe2+ 7.
Bxe2 Nc6 8. Bb2 Nxe5 9. c4 f6 10. O-O-O Ne7 11. Rhe1 O-O 12. f4 N5c6 13.
Bf3 d6 14. g4 Ng6 15. c5 dxc5 16. Bxc6 bxc6 17. f5 Nf4 18. Re4 Nd5 19. c4
Nb6 20. Ba3 Ba6 21. Bxc5 Rfe8 22. Rde1 Rxe4 23. Rxe4 Bxc4 24. a3 Bf1 25. h4
Nd7 26. Bb4 c5 27. Ba5 Nb6 28. Re7 Nc4 29. Bxc7 Nxa3 30. g5 Nb5 31. Ba5 Bh3
32. gxf6 gxf6 33. Kd1 Bxf5 34. Rb7 a6 35. Rb6 Rd8+ 36. Ke2 Rd6 37. Rb8+ Kf7
38. h5 c4 39. Kf2 Rc6 40. Rb7+ Ke6 41. Rb8 c3 42. Bb6 {White resigns} *[/pgn]

When you post an engine game, you should always include the time limit at least, that's vital info. I'm guessing 15' + 10", but just a guess. I suppose it is single thread, but this is also important to state.
Since you have so many of the near or under 2000 ccrl engines and post games with them, perhaps you can tell what engine, if any, you are able to score about evenly against yourself in blitz, say 3' + 2"? I think you estimated your rating to be in the 1900 to 2000 range, so I'm guess it would be an engine a few hundred elo below that, but "a few" is not a number. Anyone else with a known blitz rating (server or FIDE) who can name an engine which they are evenly matched with, no matter how weak, please post here (and specify hardware and threads). Or it can be a Skill level on a strong engine.

I am tire today I just came from work and after that got an hour training with my Chess trainer online, I will try another day against an engine close to 1800 since CCRL rating is equal to 150 to 200 stronger than human. I strongly recommend you to try against Dragon 4.6 rated around 2417 by CCR, or Zahak rated 2415. Or Komodo Dragon 2 MCTS contempt = 150 against these two with a Knight odds.

256‑257 Dragon 4.6 2417 +8 −8 48.5% +11.0 24.6% 7652
47.4%
256‑257 Snitch 1.6.2 32-bit 2417 +10 −10 46.5% +27.8 25.0% 3997
56.6%
258 Zahak 3.0 64-bit 2415 +26 −26 66.6% −126.1 21.3% 559
54.7%

I don't have Komodo installed, but I'll be very interested to see how does Zahak perform against Komodo in a long timecontrol 15"+2' with Knight odds.

You can download Zahak here: https://github.com/amanjpro/zahak/releases/tag/3.0

OK, I ran 44 knight odds games (b1 and g1, ChrisW book, middle of the file) between KomodoDragon2 and Zahak3 (64 bit) on my I9 laptop, very fast machine which favors the program getting the handicap compared to slower hardware. It was quite a close match. Dragon won by 21 wins to 17 losses with four draws. I would say that this is a very good result for Zahak, because in previous testing, at the just marginally faster time limit of 10' + 5", Dragon performed close to 2600 on the CCRL rapid scale giving knight odds this way. I didn't see a Rapid rating for Zahak (that's probably why I missed the rating before, I must have looked at Rapid rather than Blitz); perhaps it gets better with more time?

Okay I am very slow so I gave myself plenty of time, since I am not use to play Blitz again anybody and my online trainer dose NOT recommend me to play Blitz, since according to him it is a rush of who blunder first and of course the engine will NOT blunder in faster Blitz time, so here it is.

[pgn][Event "Computer chess game"]
[Site "MININT-UB2PIMJ"]
[Date "2021.06.01"]
[Round "2"]
[White "ChessQueen"]
[Black "Snowy_0_2_x64"]
[Result "*"]
[BlackElo "1977"]
[ECO "A46"]
[Opening "Indian"]
[Time "13:37:42"]
[Variation "2.Nf3 e6 3.c3"]
[WhiteElo "?"]
[TimeControl "1200+1"]
[Termination "normal"]
[PlyCount "148"]
[WhiteType "human"]
[BlackType "program"]

1. d4 Nf6 2. Nf3 e6 3. c3 d5 4. Bg5 Nc6 5. Ne5 h6 6. Bh4 Bd6 7. Qa4 Bd7 8.
Nxd7 Qxd7 9. Bxf6 gxf6 10. e3 Rg8 11. g3 O-O-O 12. Bb5 a6 13. Bxc6 Qxc6 14.
Qxc6 bxc6 15. Nd2 e5 16. Nb3 Kb7 17. Na5+ Kb6 18. b4 exd4 19. exd4 f5 20.
O-O f4 21. Rae1 fxg3 22. fxg3 h5 23. Rxf7 h4 24. Re3 hxg3 25. hxg3 Bxg3 26.
Kf1 Bh4 27. a4 Rdf8 28. Rxf8 Rxf8+ 29. Ke2 Rf2+ 30. Kd1 Rf1+ 31. Kc2 Rf2+
32. Kb3 Rf6 33. Re8 Ka7 34. Rg8 Bf2 35. Rg7 Kb6 36. Kb2 Re6 37. Kc2 Re2+
38. Kd3 Re3+ 39. Kd2 Re6 40. Nb3 Be3+ 41. Kd1 Bf4 42. Rf7 Bd6 43. a5+ Kb5
44. Nc5 Re3 45. Kd2 Rh3 46. Ne6 Kc4 47. Nxc7 Rd3+ 48. Ke2 Rxc3 49. Nxa6
Kxd4 50. Rf6 Ke5 51. Rh6 Bf8 52. Rh8 Be7 53. Re8 Kf6 54. Rc8 Ke5 55. b5 d4
56. Rxc6 d3+ 57. Kf2 Kd4 58. Rc7 Rxc7 59. Nxc7 Kc3 60. Nd5+ Kb3 61. Ke1 Kc2
62. Ne3+ Kc1 63. b6 Bb4+ 64. Kf2 Bxa5 65. b7 Bc7 66. Nc4 d2 67. Nxd2 Kxd2
68. Kf3 Kd3 69. Kg4 Ke4 70. Kg5 Bb8 71. Kg6 Bd6 72. Kf7 Kd5 73. Ke8 Kc6 74.
b8=Q Bxb8 {Insufficient material} *[/pgn]