How about:
22. .. Bf3 23. Bxf3 Qxf3 24. Bxc5 Nc4 *
Moves by Rybka 3 at ChessOK:
22... f6 23. h3 Bd3 24. Rad1 Bc2 25. Rc1 Bd3 26. Bxc5 Nc4 27. Qb5 Qf7 28. Be7 Qxe7 29. Qd5+ Qf7 30. Qxd3 Rd8 31. Qb1 Rab8 32. Rcd1 Rdc8 33. Qa1 Na3 34. Rd2 Nc4 35. Rd5 Rybka3_8cpu (0:11.25)+0.17|d21
f6 seems pretty hard to find.
World Chess Championship (Game 10)
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Re: World Chess Championship (Game 10)
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Re: World Chess Championship (Game 10)
Kramnik appears he didn't like 22. Bxe5!? ..Nc4 23. Qa6..Qxe5 24. Rxe2..Qxc3 creating a passed pawn on the c-file.
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Re: World Chess Championship (Game 10)
But, Rybka 3 at ChessOK suggests:Terry McCracken wrote:Kramnik appears he didn't like 22. Bxe5!? ..Nc4 23. Qa6..Qxe5 24. Rxe2..Qxc3 creating a passed pawn on the c-file.
22. Be3 ?
+0.20 Stronger was 22.Bxe5! Nc4 23.Qa6 Qxe5 24.Rxe2 Qxc3 25.Ree1 and White has advantage
(22... f6 Rybka3_8cpu (0:03.06)+0.20|d20
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Re: World Chess Championship (Game 10)
Maybe? Nothing winning. Kramnik doesn't know what to do it seems?Anil wrote:But, Rybka 3 at ChessOK suggests:Terry McCracken wrote:Kramnik appears he didn't like 22. Bxe5!? ..Nc4 23. Qa6..Qxe5 24. Rxe2..Qxc3 creating a passed pawn on the c-file.
22. Be3 ?
+0.20 Stronger was 22.Bxe5! Nc4 23.Qa6 Qxe5 24.Rxe2 Qxc3 25.Ree1 and White has advantage
(22... f6 Rybka3_8cpu (0:03.06)+0.20|d20
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Re: World Chess Championship (Game 10)
[Event "World Chess Championship 2008"]
[Site "Bonn"]
[Date "2008.10.27"]
[Round "10"]
[White "Kramnik, Vladimir"]
[Black "Anand, Viswanathan"]
[Result "*"]
[WhiteElo "2772"]
[BlackElo "2783"]
[PlyCount "44"]
[EventDate "2008.10.27"]
[EventCountry "GER"]
1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 e6 3. Nc3 Bb4 4. Nf3 c5 5. g3 cxd4 6. Nxd4 O-O 7. Bg2 d5 8.
cxd5 Nxd5 9. Qb3 Qa5 10. Bd2 Nc6 11. Nxc6 bxc6 12. O-O Bxc3 13. bxc3 Ba6 14.
Rfd1 Qc5 15. e4 Bc4 16. Qa4 Nb6 17. Qb4 Qh5 18. Re1 c5 19. Qa5 Rfc8 20. Be3 Be2
21. Bf4 e5 22. Be3 Bg4 *
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[Site "Bonn"]
[Date "2008.10.27"]
[Round "10"]
[White "Kramnik, Vladimir"]
[Black "Anand, Viswanathan"]
[Result "*"]
[WhiteElo "2772"]
[BlackElo "2783"]
[PlyCount "44"]
[EventDate "2008.10.27"]
[EventCountry "GER"]
1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 e6 3. Nc3 Bb4 4. Nf3 c5 5. g3 cxd4 6. Nxd4 O-O 7. Bg2 d5 8.
cxd5 Nxd5 9. Qb3 Qa5 10. Bd2 Nc6 11. Nxc6 bxc6 12. O-O Bxc3 13. bxc3 Ba6 14.
Rfd1 Qc5 15. e4 Bc4 16. Qa4 Nb6 17. Qb4 Qh5 18. Re1 c5 19. Qa5 Rfc8 20. Be3 Be2
21. Bf4 e5 22. Be3 Bg4 *
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Re: World Chess Championship (Game 10)
It is difficult to understand computer chess lines unless you play quite deep through the variation.Terry McCracken wrote:Maybe? Nothing winning. Kramnik doesn't know what to do it seems?Anil wrote:But, Rybka 3 at ChessOK suggests:Terry McCracken wrote:Kramnik appears he didn't like 22. Bxe5!? ..Nc4 23. Qa6..Qxe5 24. Rxe2..Qxc3 creating a passed pawn on the c-file.
22. Be3 ?
+0.20 Stronger was 22.Bxe5! Nc4 23.Qa6 Qxe5 24.Rxe2 Qxc3 25.Ree1 and White has advantage
(22... f6 Rybka3_8cpu (0:03.06)+0.20|d20
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Re: World Chess Championship (Game 10)
Kramnik is a bit messed up already. His novelty wasn't a good one it seems. Now Q-b5-f1 and h3 or f3?AdminX wrote:[Event "World Chess Championship 2008"]
[Site "Bonn"]
[Date "2008.10.27"]
[Round "10"]
[White "Kramnik, Vladimir"]
[Black "Anand, Viswanathan"]
[Result "*"]
[WhiteElo "2772"]
[BlackElo "2783"]
[PlyCount "44"]
[EventDate "2008.10.27"]
[EventCountry "GER"]
1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 e6 3. Nc3 Bb4 4. Nf3 c5 5. g3 cxd4 6. Nxd4 O-O 7. Bg2 d5 8.
cxd5 Nxd5 9. Qb3 Qa5 10. Bd2 Nc6 11. Nxc6 bxc6 12. O-O Bxc3 13. bxc3 Ba6 14.
Rfd1 Qc5 15. e4 Bc4 16. Qa4 Nb6 17. Qb4 Qh5 18. Re1 c5 19. Qa5 Rfc8 20. Be3 Be2
21. Bf4 e5 22. Be3 Bg4 *
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Re: World Chess Championship (Game 10)
S.Taylor wrote:
Kramnik is a bit messed up already. His novelty wasn't a good one it seems. Now Q-b5-f1 and h3 or f3?
How about he just takes the pawn with Bxc5?
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Re: World Chess Championship (Game 10)
If f3 then simply Bxf3! Why give a pawn away?S.Taylor wrote:Kramnik is a bit messed up already. His novelty wasn't a good one it seems. Now Q-b5-f1 and h3 or f3?AdminX wrote:[Event "World Chess Championship 2008"]
[Site "Bonn"]
[Date "2008.10.27"]
[Round "10"]
[White "Kramnik, Vladimir"]
[Black "Anand, Viswanathan"]
[Result "*"]
[WhiteElo "2772"]
[BlackElo "2783"]
[PlyCount "44"]
[EventDate "2008.10.27"]
[EventCountry "GER"]
1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 e6 3. Nc3 Bb4 4. Nf3 c5 5. g3 cxd4 6. Nxd4 O-O 7. Bg2 d5 8.
cxd5 Nxd5 9. Qb3 Qa5 10. Bd2 Nc6 11. Nxc6 bxc6 12. O-O Bxc3 13. bxc3 Ba6 14.
Rfd1 Qc5 15. e4 Bc4 16. Qa4 Nb6 17. Qb4 Qh5 18. Re1 c5 19. Qa5 Rfc8 20. Be3 Be2
21. Bf4 e5 22. Be3 Bg4 *
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Re: World Chess Championship (Game 10)
Anil wrote: If f3 then simply Bxf3! Why give a pawn away?
No, the Queen is on f1 in that suggested line.