Cluster Rybka vs. Houdini 3 - Game 5 ...

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Re: Cluster Rybka vs. Houdini 3 - Game 5 ...

Post by IWB »

Game 5:

[Event "Freundschaftspartie, 105 m + 15s"]
[Site "Maschinenraum"]
[Date "2012.12.17"]
[Round "?"]
[White "TryMe, Rybka Cluster 64 Co"]
[Black "Felix 2, Houdini 3 Pro x64"]
[Result "0-1"]
[ECO "B12"]
[WhiteElo "2472"]
[Annotator "0.26;0.13"]
[PlyCount "130"]
[EventDate "2012.12.17"]
[TimeControl "6300+15"]

1. e4 c6 2. d4 d5 3. e5 {0.26/22 362} Bf5 {0.13/27 243} 4. Nf3 {0.25/22 637} e6
{0.13/28 134} 5. c3 {0.23/23 231} Nd7 {0.04/28 189} 6. Be2 {0.20/21 0} Ne7 {0.
05/28 279} 7. O-O {0.24/23 0} h6 {0.03/28 306} 8. a4 {0.23/21 136} a6 {0.08/27
21} 9. Be3 {0.19/22 220} Bh7 {0.03/28 0} 10. a5 {0.15/22 418} Nf5 {0.06/29 381}
11. Bd2 {0.14/23 0} c5 {-0.06/27 163} 12. Qa4 {0.08/21 53} Rc8 {-0.22/26 171}
13. Na3 {0.12/22 307} Be7 {-0.18/29 106} 14. b4 {0.10/22 29} c4 {-0.14/30 258}
15. b5 {0.06/24 0} O-O {-0.16/27 250} 16. Rfb1 {0.05/21 0} Qc7 {-0.35/24 111}
17. Re1 {0.01/20 82} Nb8 {-0.25/26 207} 18. Bd1 {0.00/21 29} Qd7 {-0.11/27 85}
19. Ra2 {-0.16/22 124} Bxa3 {-0.57/28 86} 20. Qxa3 {-0.46/23 324} axb5 {-0.57/
29 109} 21. Rb2 {-0.47/24 53} Nc6 {-0.55/31 538} 22. Rxb5 {-0.47/26 0} Ra8 {-0.
59/29 302 Game resumed} 23. g4 {-0.40/22 250} Nfe7 {-0.80/27 173} 24. Qd6 {-0.
49/22 0 (g5)} Rfd8 {-0.76/29 72} 25. Qxd7 {-0.56/23 99} Rxd7 {-0.70/31 0} 26.
Ba4 {-0.52/25 112} Be4 {-0.78/31 0} 27. Nh4 {-0.55/23 97} Ra6 {-0.73/29 36
(Tdd8)} 28. f3 {-0.70/24 422 (Ta1)} Bd3 {-0.78/30 71} 29. Bc1 {-0.73/25 124
(Sg2)} Na7 {-0.90/30 87} 30. Rc5 {-0.83/22 7 (Tb6)} Nec6 {-0.97/29 85 (Td8)}
31. g5 {-0.93/25 499 (Sg2)} Rd8 {-1.26/29 145} 32. gxh6 {-1.08/21 0} Nxa5 {-1.
22/28 66 (Txa5)} 33. Bb5 {-1.16/22 292 (Tc7)} Rb6 {-1.45/27 79} 34. Bg5 {-1.23/
24 61 (La4)} Rb8 {-1.98/28 173 (Ta8)} 35. Ba4 {-1.35/22 91} N5c6 {-1.96/27 37}
36. hxg7 {-1.56/21 91} Kxg7 {-1.95/27 0 (Tb3)} 37. Ng2 {-1.40/19 124 (Kg2)} Ra6
{-2.23/26 72} 38. Bxc6 {-1.53/22 2 (Lb5)} bxc6 {-2.50/24 62} 39. Rc1 {-1.73/21
57} Rb2 {-2.59/26 6} 40. Bh4 {-1.96/21 78 (Le3)} Kg6 {-3.22/26 100 (Taa2)} 41.
Bg3 {-2.73/21 170 (Lf2)} Raa2 {-3.59/26 21} 42. Nf4+ {-3.33/23 320} Kf5 {-3.83/
30 0} 43. Kh1 {-3.38/23 53} Be2 {-4.07/27 0 (Td2)} 44. Kg2 {-3.41/23 36} Nb5 {
-4.13/26 40 (Tb3)} 45. Kh3 {-3.45/18 22} Bxf3 {-4.13/26 0} 46. Rf1 {-3.49/19 16
} Ke4 {-4.22/25 0} 47. Re1+ {-3.49/18 27} Be2 {-4.11/25 0} 48. Rxc6 {-3.70/18
15} Nxc3 {-4.38/25 166 (Ke3)} 49. Rc7 {-3.31/16 21} Nb5 {-4.36/24 0} 50. Rxf7 {
-3.38/17 12} Nxd4 {-4.46/23 0} 51. Rf6 {-3.72/18 117 (Te7)} c3 {-4.55/21 25}
52. Nxe6 {-3.77/17 21} Nxe6 {-4.51/23 0} 53. Rxe6 {-3.90/17 11} d4 {-4.40/22 12
} 54. Rc6 {-4.06/19 33} Ra8 {-4.70/22 0 (Tb8)} 55. e6 {-4.12/19 98 (Tc7)} Rh8+
{-5.12/22 26} 56. Kg2 {-4.13/18 1} Re8 {-5.12/21 8} 57. Bf2 {-4.43/18 29 (Lc7)}
Kd5 {-5.39/23 8 (Td2)} 58. Rc7 {-4.75/18 8} Bb5 {-5.42/22 0} 59. Kf3 {-5.11/20
51} d3 {-5.72/25 0} 60. Be3 {-8.64/21 394 (Lg3)} d2 {-8.84/22 64 (Lc6)} 61. Ra1
{-13.79/19 205 (Th1)} Bc6 {-10.62/23 22} 62. Kg3 {-14.63/18 43 (Kf4)} Rxe6 {
-17.37/21 26} 63. Bxd2 {-61.55/17 70 (Kf3)} cxd2 {-16.33/22 18} 64. Rc8 {-#13/
23 50} Rb3+ {-#16/29 5 (Ke5)} 65. Kf2 {-#13/22 36 (Kf4)} Kc4 {-#14/27 6 TryMe,
Rybka Cluster 64 Cor gibt auf (Lag: Av=0.23s, max=0.8s)} 0-1



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Re: Cluster Rybka vs. Houdini 3 - Game 5 ...

Post by Graham Banks »

IWB wrote:Game 5:

[Event "Freundschaftspartie, 105 m + 15s"]
[Site "Maschinenraum"]
[Date "2012.12.17"]
[Round "?"]
[White "TryMe, Rybka Cluster 64 Co"]
[Black "Felix 2, Houdini 3 Pro x64"]
[Result "0-1"]
[ECO "B12"]
[WhiteElo "2472"]
[Annotator "0.26;0.13"]
[PlyCount "130"]
[EventDate "2012.12.17"]
[TimeControl "6300+15"]

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Re: Cluster Rybka vs. Houdini 3 - Game 5 ...

Post by Nay Lin Tun »

I personally would like to attack the black's king side. Trade the blacks' light color bishop and then open the f- file. White also have an advanced pawn on e5 for king's side attack.
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Re: Cluster Rybka vs. Houdini 3 - Game 5 ...

Post by beram »

M ANSARI wrote:
Dragan wrote:I also noticed this difference in depth. It indicates that clusters computing power (slow CPUs + overhead) is much lower then the power of Clemens's 16CPU machine. Of course assuming that depth shown by the cluster is comparable to R4.1 which is more then fair assumption.
They should really pull the plug on the cluster or update its software and hardware. The way it is now, it looks pretty close to being a scam.

... the cluster is really designed more for deep analysis for professionals or using its analysis capability to search several lines deep very quickly...
What you say applies for all good chess engines, both amateurs and pros know to use them well.
You should be ashamed for upcovering the poor play of the cluster machine, in such a foolish way.
This match prooves it is nothing more than a clay giant when confronted with Houdini3 on a 16 core machine.
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Re: Cluster Rybka vs. Houdini 3 - Game 5 ...

Post by beram »

Lavir wrote:Sincerely I cannot understand the move 19 Ra2; it is like Rybka didn't see the very simple Bxa3.

So strange.
The move Bxa3 is not that easy(for most engines). But with hindside we are always nearer to the truth. But for me what comes in mind first as almost begging for playing is b6, instead of Ra2.
I analysed the game under Fritz12 gui, with compare analysis giving Rybka 4.1 4 cores and 300 sec thinking time. Rybka than also came up with this line at depth 21. That seems pretty more even than the played Ra2?!

19. Ra2 {[%eval -16,22] [%emt 0:02:04]} ({Deep Rybka 4.1 x64:} 19. b6 Qxa4 20. Bxa4 Nc6 21. Bxc6 Rxc6 22. Ra2 Bg6 23. h3 Nh4 24. Nxh4 Bxh4 25. Bc1 Be4 26. Nc2 Re8 27. Ne3 Kh7 28. Ba3 Bg5 29. Bc5 Bd3 30. g3 Bxe3 31. Rxe3 {[%eval -11,21]})