My test for Kayra 1.0 v6 bmi2

[Guenther]

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[quote]Re: Kayra Tests

Post by M.Z » Today, 9:59
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[mehmet123]

The banning of Kayra tests at Outskirts Chess Forum is not problem for me becuse rule is rule.

I'm planning to publish Kayra as open source after making some corrections and new settings in the codes in 1-2 months. Kayra has much less parameters than Stockfish and these parameters are very different compared to Stockfish. So after Kayra becomes open source, I guess it will become much stronger after a good optimization process with the help of people who have strong systems.

[connor_mcmonigle]

The banning of Kayra tests at Outskirts Chess Forum is not problem for me becuse rule is rule.

I'm planning to publish Kayra as open source after making some corrections and new settings in the codes in 1-2 months. Kayra has much less parameters than Stockfish and these parameters are very different compared to Stockfish. So after Kayra becomes open source, I guess it will become much stronger after a good optimization process with the help of people who have strong systems.

Ahh. So you're also violating Stockfish's license as well. Disappointing and disrespectful. Why not just publish the source?

[mehmet123]

The banning of Kayra tests at Outskirts Chess Forum is not problem for me becuse rule is rule.

I'm planning to publish Kayra as open source after making some corrections and new settings in the codes in 1-2 months. Kayra has much less parameters than Stockfish and these parameters are very different compared to Stockfish. So after Kayra becomes open source, I guess it will become much stronger after a good optimization process with the help of people who have strong systems.

Ahh. So you're also violating Stockfish's license as well. Disappointing and disrespectful. Why not just publish the source?

I am not breaking any rules. Despite the intense interest in this engine, I did not give this engine to anyone except the testers. In 3 critical sections (Evalution, Psqt and Pawns), I reduced the number of parameters around 750 to less than 200. It would be a serious mistake to publish Kayra as it is. Due to so many changes in a short time, Kayra has serious weaknesses and I am trying to eliminate them.

[Eduard]

Dear Mehmet, keep it up. If there are radical changes, then it makes sense to test privately first before giving it to everyone. That is normal. Nobody can object that such an engine has to be extensively tested first. Unfortunately, this has to be done privately, otherwise the GPL license will be violated. I really appreciate honest people like you. You also specified the Stockfish developers as authors for your engine!

[connor_mcmonigle]

The banning of Kayra tests at Outskirts Chess Forum is not problem for me becuse rule is rule.

I'm planning to publish Kayra as open source after making some corrections and new settings in the codes in 1-2 months. Kayra has much less parameters than Stockfish and these parameters are very different compared to Stockfish. So after Kayra becomes open source, I guess it will become much stronger after a good optimization process with the help of people who have strong systems.

Ahh. So you're also violating Stockfish's license as well. Disappointing and disrespectful. Why not just publish the source?

I am not breaking any rules. Despite the intense interest in this engine, I did not give this engine to anyone except the testers. In 3 critical sections (Evalution, Psqt and Pawns), I reduced the number of parameters around 750 to less than 200. It would be a serious mistake to publish Kayra as it is. Due to so many changes in a short time, Kayra has serious weaknesses and I am trying to eliminate them.

Ahh. I misinterpreted the situation, my bad. In any case, it's still unclear to me as to why you would want to keep search parameter tweaks private, though, so long as you respect the license, no harm is done of course. Also, if you genuinely believe you've been able to gain Elo by tweaking search parameters, your testing process would be greatly simplified by submiting tests to FishTest.

[mehmet123]

if you genuinely believe you've been able to gain Elo by tweaking search parameters, your testing process would be greatly simplified by submiting tests to FishTest.

I don't think they test Kayra parameters in Fishtest. Since Kayra and Stockfish has a different evalution structure. It is not possible for them to use a parameter with a good test result in Stockfish. The number of parameters used in the Kayra is 1/4 of Stockfish ( Evalution/PSQT/Pawns) , so I think the optimization process will be easier than Stockfish.

[mehmet123]

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Re: Kayra Tests

Post by M.Z » Today, 9:59
Admin Message:
All users are reminded that links and test to engines that violate the GPL license are not allowed in this forum
Engines like Zeus and Kayra cannot be treated differently from Raubfish and other engines therefore in the absence of source code I am forced to close this Thread.
Violation of the GPL license
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I have bad news for you. Rules at Outskirts Chess Forum changes again

Compliance to the GPL license is mandatory. This Forum does not condone the violation thereof in any way. However we have decided to lift any restrictions on posting engine tests. To enable bookmakers and others the opportunity to analyze games generated by those entities, this Forum will allow, in the interests of fair comment, with a disclaimer, games played by those non-compliant engines. Therefore, only the publication of links to engines without source code is prohibited.
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[mehmet123]

I think it's not private chess engine tests, but the tests of engines that violate gpl rules can be banned.

Raubfish violate gpl rules because a direct download link is shared on a chess forum.
I don' t know the status of Zeus and Fischerov. These engines do not have a direct download link.
Kayra doesn' t violate GPL. I just sent Kayra to some testers and I plan to make Kayra an open source engine until the end of January 2022.

[Eduard]

I don't see any engine on playchess that is stronger than Kayra. With moderately strong hardware (20000 kns), Kayra has been unbeaten now for 205 games. Four games were won. Current Serverelo is 2753.

Kayra plays with a universal CTG book and also has to play these openings with Black: French, Caro Kann, Pirc, Philidor, King's Indian. These are openings that are difficult to play. The first 42 games were even played with a Gambit book. Kayra also had to play the King's Gambit, Budapest Gambit and Wolga Gambit. Great!