Thanks, this should be helpful, although there is no obvious similarity between the two time losses.bmp1974 wrote: ↑Sun May 15, 2022 8:07 pm[pgn][Event "Tour4_blitz only, Blitz 3.0min+2.0sec"]lkaufman wrote: ↑Sun May 15, 2022 5:09 pmWas it just one game lost on time out of a big number, or multiple losses? We did have one other report of a single game lost on time in a CCC event. We'd like to figure out what is the cause so we can fix it.bmp1974 wrote: ↑Sun May 15, 2022 2:09 pmThe games were played in my computer (Intel(R) Core(TM) i9-9900K CPU @ 3.60GHz 3.60 GHz, Ram=32GB) Threads=8, using Fritz 18.lkaufman wrote: ↑Fri May 13, 2022 5:29 pmThis is the first such report. Are you playing games on a server over the internet, or just on your own computer? The default overhead should be plenty for games played on your own computer, but we do recommend raising it for server games on the internet, at least double it in that case to 100 ms and keep raising it if necessary, until forfeits stop.
[Site "?"]
[Date "2022.05.11"]
[Round "2.1"]
[White "Dragon 3 by Komodo Chess, 64-bit"]
[Black "Lc0 v0.30.0-dev+git.77b5659"]
[Result "0-1"]
[ECO "C58"]
[Annotator "1.08;0.27"]
[PlyCount "210"]
[EventDate "2022.05.11"]
[EventType "tourn"]
[SourceTitle "Fritz Engine Tournament"]
[Source "BM"]
{Intel(R) Core(TM) i9-9900K CPU @ 3.60GHz 3600 MHz W=33.1 plies; 6,090kN/s; 68,
152 TBAs B=7.5 plies; 12kN/s} 1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bc4 Nf6 4. Ng5 d5 5. exd5
Na5 6. d3 Nxc4 7. dxc4 h6 8. Nf3 e4 9. Nd4 {1.08/24 7} Bg4 {0.27/15 13} 10. Ne2
{0.67/26 11} Bb4+ {0.24/16 7} 11. Bd2 {0.69/26 6} Qe7 {0.23/17 0} 12. h3 {
0.59/29 24} Bh5 {0.20/17 9} 13. Nbc3 {0.60/29 9 (a3)} O-O {0.17/14 7} 14. O-O {
0.56/29 15} c6 {0.16/15 7} 15. Qe1 {0.48/31 6} Rfe8 {0.15/13 0} 16. Ng3 {
0.49/31 6 (a3)} Bg6 {0.12/15 10} 17. Ncxe4 {0.51/33 6 (Nd1)} Bc5 {0.02/15 10
(Nxe4)} 18. Nxc5 {0.46/30 5} Qxc5 {0.02/14 0} 19. Qc1 {0.38/32 6} Qxc4 {
0.02/13 8} 20. dxc6 {0.33/34 8} Qxc6 {0.02/12 0} 21. c3 {0.31/34 6} Nh5 {
0.03/10 11} 22. Nxh5 {0.37/34 5} Bxh5 {0.03/10 3} 23. Be3 {0.32/35 9 (Re1)} Re6
{0.02/9 14 (Rad8)} 24. f3 {0.31/29 12 (Qd2)} Rae8 {0.00/9 9} 25. Bd4 {0.28/30 4
} Qc7 {0.00/9 11 (Re2)} 26. Rf2 {0.40/26 6} Qg3 {0.00/9 5 (Bg6)} 27. Qd2 {
0.30/29 5 (Qf1)} Bg6 {-0.03/8 8} 28. Kh1 {0.28/32 4} Bf5 {-0.01/8 9} 29. Rg1 {
0.16/30 7} a6 {-0.01/7 4 (a5)} 30. Qd1 {0.26/30 3 (a4)} b5 {0.00/7 8 (Qh4)} 31.
a3 {0.17/29 7 (Qf1)} R6e7 {0.00/7 7 (Kh7)} 32. Qf1 {0.16/31 8 (b3)} Be6 {
0.00/7 5} 33. Re2 {0.16/32 3} Bb3 {0.00/9 5} 34. Rxe7 {0.12/36 9 (Qf2)} Rxe7 {
0.00/8 3} 35. Qd3 {0.12/40 3} Re6 {0.00/7 11 (Qf4)} 36. Be3 {0.24/34 4 (Qd2)}
Qe5 {0.01/6 6 (Qg6)} 37. Re1 {0.19/31 2} Qg3 {0.01/6 5 (Qd6)} 38. Qd8+ {
0.17/32 4 (Qd2)} Kh7 {0.01/7 3} 39. Qd2 {0.16/33 8} Qg6 {0.02/6 9 (Qd6)} 40.
Kg1 {0.16/34 6 (Bd4)} a5 {0.03/5 6 (Qg3)} 41. c4 {0.15/38 5} Bxc4 {0.04/8 3}
42. Qxa5 {0.14/37 8} Bd5 {0.05/8 7 (Qd3)} 43. Kf2 {0.23/32 3} Rc6 {0.04/9 3}
44. Rd1 {0.22/33 4} Rc2+ {0.03/10 4} 45. Rd2 {0.18/35 5} Bc4 {0.02/9 5 (Qd3)}
46. b3 {0.30/31 2 (Rxc2)} Bxb3 {0.01/8 6} 47. Qxb5 {0.30/35 7} Bc4 {0.01/8 5}
48. Qb4 {0.29/35 2 (Qe5)} Rc1 {0.00/8 5} 49. Re2 {0.29/34 11} Qd3 {0.01/8 6
(Rc2)} 50. Bxc1 {0.29/34 3} Qxe2+ {0.02/8 1} 51. Kg3 {0.29/32 2} Qc2 {0.01/6 8
(Qe6)} 52. Bd2 {0.30/36 3} Bf1 {0.02/6 4 (Qb3)} 53. Kf2 {0.30/29 3} Bc4 {
0.04/6 4 (Qc4)} 54. a4 {0.36/22 4} f6 {0.05/6 4 (Qb3)} 55. a5 {0.43/33 3} Qd3 {
0.05/6 3 (Qd1)} 56. Kg1 {0.43/34 4 (Bc3)} Kg6 {0.03/6 3 (Qc2)} 57. Kh2 {
0.43/33 1} Qd5 {0.04/5 3 (Qc2)} 58. Bf4 {0.43/31 2 (Bc3)} Qb5 {0.03/5 3 (Ba6)}
59. Qd2 {0.43/35 2 (Qe1)} Bf1 {0.03/5 3} 60. Qf2 {0.43/35 5 (Kg1)} Bd3 {
0.04/5 3 (Qe2)} 61. Qe1 {0.43/28 1 (Qb6)} Kh7 {0.03/5 3 (Qf5)} 62. Bd6 {
0.43/32 1 (Qe3)} Kg8 {0.03/5 3 (Kg6)} 63. Bb4 {0.43/35 2 (Qe3)} Kh7 {0.04/5 3}
64. Kg1 {0.43/38 1 (Qe7)} Qc4 {0.05/5 2 (Qd5)} 65. Qe3 {0.43/38 2} Kg8 {
0.05/6 2 (Qc2)} 66. Bd2 {0.43/32 1 (Be7)} Kh7 {0.05/5 2} 67. Be1 {0.43/36 2
(Bb4)} Qd5 {0.05/5 2} 68. Qf4 {0.43/35 6 (Bc3)} Qc5+ {0.04/5 2 (Qc4)} 69. Kh1 {
0.43/39 2 (Kh2)} Qc4 {0.03/5 2 (Qc2)} 70. Qd6 {0.43/41 2 (Qe3)} Bf1 {0.04/5 2}
71. Kg1 {0.43/39 3} Bd3 {0.05/6 2} 72. Bd2 {0.42/35 2 (h4)} Kg6 {0.04/6 3 (Qb5)
} 73. Qe7 {0.43/33 2 (Bb4)} Qd4+ {0.03/5 2 (Qa2)} 74. Kh2 {0.43/35 1} Bf1 {
0.04/6 2 (Qd5)} 75. Bb4 {0.43/33 1 (Qe1)} Kh7 {0.05/6 2} 76. Qe1 {0.43/38 2
(Qb7)} Ba6 {0.05/6 2 (Bd3)} 77. Ba3 {0.43/35 2 (Bf8)} Qd5 {0.04/5 2 (Bd3)} 78.
Bf8 {0.43/35 3} Kg8 {0.03/6 2} 79. Bb4 {0.43/36 2 (Qe7)} Qc6 {0.03/5 2 (Qc4)}
80. Qe3 {0.43/34 2 (Qe7)} Qc7+ {0.04/5 2} 81. Kh1 {0.43/37 2} Qc4 {0.04/5 2}
82. Bd2 {0.43/37 3 (Bc3)} Kf7 {0.03/5 2 (Qf1+)} 83. Kh2 {0.43/32 2 (Qb6)} Qc7+
{0.04/5 2 (Qb5)} 84. Kh1 {0.43/37 1 (Kg1)} Qc4 {0.03/5 2} 85. Qb6 {0.43/34 3
(Qa7+)} Kg6 {0.03/5 2} 86. Qd6 {0.43/34 2 (Bb4)} Qd3 {0.02/5 2 (Qf1+)} 87. Qb4
{0.36/32 1 (Qf4)} Qc4 {0.03/5 2 (Kh7)} 88. Qb8 {0.36/32 3 (Qe7)} Qb5 {0.02/5 2
(Qf1+)} 89. Qg3+ {0.35/29 2 (Qf4)} Kh7 {0.04/6 2} 90. Kh2 {0.34/29 2 (Qf4)} Qd3
{0.04/5 2 (Qc4)} 91. Bb4 {0.33/28 1} Qd8 {0.03/5 2 (Qc4)} 92. Bc3 {0.33/32 2
(Qf4)} Qd3 {0.04/5 2 (Qc8)} 93. Be1 {0.33/35 1 (Qe1)} Qc4 {0.03/5 2} 94. h4 {
0.33/37 2 (Qd6)} Qe6 {0.03/5 2 (Bb5)} 95. Bb4 {0.33/32 3} Qc8 {0.04/5 2 (Qc4)}
96. Qe1 {0.33/33 4 (Qd6)} Kh8 {0.04/5 2 (Qc4)} 97. Qe7 {0.33/32 2} Kh7 {
0.04/5 2 (Qc4)} 98. Qd6 {0.33/31 2 (Kg3)} Bf1 {0.05/5 2 (Qc4)} 99. Kg1 {
0.33/28 1 (Qc5)} Ba6 {0.05/6 2} 100. Qf4 {0.33/32 2 (Bc3)} Kg8 {0.05/5 2 (Qc2)}
101. Be1 {0.33/31 2 (Qd6)} Qc5+ {0.04/5 2 (Qc4)} 102. Kh1 {0.33/37 1 (Kh2)} Qc4
{0.03/5 2 (Qb5)} 103. Qb8+ {0.33/33 1 (Qxc4+)} Kh7 {0.03/6 2} 104. Qb1+ {
0.33/32 3 (Kh2)} Kg8 {0.02/6 2 (Qd3)} 105. Qa1 {0.33/36 2 (Kh2)} Kf7 {0.02/5 2
(Kh7) Time} 0-1
[/pgn]
[pgn][Event "Tour4_blitz only, Blitz 3.0min+2.0sec"]
[Site "?"]
[Date "2022.05.12"]
[Round "6.1"]
[White "Dragon 3 by Komodo Chess, 64-bit"]
[Black "Lc0 v0.30.0-dev+git.77b5659"]
[Result "0-1"]
[ECO "C14"]
[Annotator "1.28;0.44"]
[PlyCount "124"]
[EventDate "2022.05.11"]
[EventType "tourn"]
[SourceTitle "Fritz Engine Tournament"]
[Source "BM"]
{Intel(R) Core(TM) i9-9900K CPU @ 3.60GHz 3600 MHz W=26.4 plies; 5,470kN/s; 81,
508 TBAs B=19.9 plies; 29kN/s; 720 TBAs} 1. e4 e6 2. d4 d5 3. Nc3 Nf6 4. Bg5
Be7 5. e5 Nfd7 6. h4 f6 7. Bd3 c5 8. Qh5+ Kf8 9. exf6 {1.28/26 5} Nxf6 {
0.44/19 12} 10. Bxf6 {1.30/29 5} Bxf6 {0.44/18 0} 11. dxc5 {1.14/28 9} Nd7 {
0.42/19 6} 12. Nf3 {1.06/29 6} Nxc5 {0.42/20 0} 13. O-O {1.13/30 11} Bd7 {
0.42/20 0} 14. Rae1 {1.10/30 21 (Rfe1)} Be8 {0.43/19 16} 15. Qg4 {1.03/28 4} h5
{0.43/22 5} 16. Qf4 {1.08/29 4} Kg8 {0.41/23 14 (Rh6)} 17. Ng5 {1.39/24 4} Rh6
{0.41/23 0} 18. Nxe6 {1.28/29 7} Nxe6 {0.42/22 0} 19. Rxe6 {1.28/30 7} Bf7 {
0.41/20 0} 20. Re2 {1.14/29 26 (Qf5)} Bxh4 {0.46/18 16} 21. Rfe1 {0.96/27 4}
Bg5 {0.52/18 13 (Qf6)} 22. Qf5 {1.28/28 3} Qf6 {0.53/23 0} 23. Re5 {1.21/31 8}
Bd2 {0.53/20 0} 24. Nxd5 {1.30/31 6} Qxf5 {0.56/20 0} 25. Ne7+ {1.38/31 4} Kf8
{0.57/21 11} 26. Nxf5 {1.33/34 12} Rf6 {0.52/21 26} 27. R1e2 {1.03/30 13} Bf4 {
0.51/24 0} 28. Re7 {0.99/26 4} g6 {0.50/26 0 (b6)} 29. Nd4 {1.35/30 4} Rd8 {
0.53/24 7} 30. Nf3 {1.25/32 4} Bd5 {0.56/23 4} 31. Rh7 {1.26/33 5} Kg8 {
0.57/22 1} 32. Ree7 {1.19/34 4} Bf7 {0.56/24 4} 33. Rhxf7 {1.29/35 8} Rxf7 {
0.57/23 0} 34. Bc4 {1.29/34 5} Rd1+ {0.56/22 0} 35. Ne1 {1.25/33 7} Bd6 {
0.54/22 12} 36. Bxf7+ {1.34/34 6} Kf8 {0.56/22 19 (Kg7)} 37. Re4 {1.27/34 22}
Kxf7 {0.57/20 0} 38. Kf1 {1.24/31 9} Rb1 {0.57/21 0} 39. b3 {1.22/30 7} a5 {
0.56/20 0 (Rc1)} 40. Ke2 {1.34/29 2} Rc1 {0.53/20 10} 41. Kd2 {1.34/28 3} Ra1 {
0.54/19 4} 42. a4 {1.39/28 2} Bb4+ {0.54/19 0} 43. c3 {1.21/29 11} Bd6 {
0.52/16 11 (Bc5)} 44. Kd3 {1.33/26 5} Ra2 {0.50/16 9} 45. Rd4 {1.45/26 2 (Re2)}
Ke7 {0.51/15 13 (Be7)} 46. Nc2 {1.12/23 3 (Re4+)} Rb2 {0.50/16 7} 47. b4 {
1.29/22 2} axb4 {0.51/16 5} 48. cxb4 {1.13/24 1} Ke6 {0.49/14 4} 49. Re4+ {
1.30/22 2} Kd7 {0.50/13 6} 50. f3 {1.33/21 3} g5 {0.52/14 7} 51. Kc3 {1.25/20 2
} Rb1 {0.53/16 3} 52. a5 {1.29/19 2 (Ne3)} h4 {0.57/13 10} 53. Ne3 {1.09/16 2}
Bf8 {0.51/16 6 (Rh1)} 54. f4 {1.05/17 2} gxf4 {0.52/21 0} 55. Rxf4 {1.06/14 1}
Bg7+ {0.48/17 12 (Bh6)} 56. Kc4 {1.03/17 2} Bh6 {0.49/17 0} 57. Rf7+ {1.51/14 1
} Ke6 {0.48/16 1} 58. Rf3 {1.24/18 4} Bg5 {0.48/14 2} 59. Nc2 {1.47/18 2} Be7 {
0.49/12 0} 60. Kb5 {1.32/17 2} Rb2 {0.36/14 5} 61. Rc3 {1.23/18 2} Kd7 {
0.34/14 2} 62. Rc4 {1.22/19 1} Bd8 {0.32/13 3 Time} 0-1
[/pgn]
2 games loss on time in a 6 game span
Komodo Dragon 3 Released by KomodoChess
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Re: Komodo Dragon 3 Released by KomodoChess
Komodo rules!
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Re: Komodo Dragon 3 Released by KomodoChess
I ran a 100 game match here: forum3/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=79826&p=925344#p925344 with no time losses.
And no reported issues here: https://www.sp-cc.de/nn-vs-kd-testing.htm AFAIk
Strange.
And no reported issues here: https://www.sp-cc.de/nn-vs-kd-testing.htm AFAIk
Strange.
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Re: Komodo Dragon 3 Released by KomodoChess
I've had a small number of time losses (less than 5) in the roughly 1000 games I've run for CCRL 40/15.
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Re: Komodo Dragon 3 Released by KomodoChess
Any common element to the time losses (GUI, or number of threads. or very long games...)? If we can't find a cause, we may just increase the default overhead ms a bit in the next release.Graham Banks wrote: ↑Mon May 16, 2022 12:45 am I've had a small number of time losses (less than 5) in the roughly 1000 games I've run for CCRL 40/15.
Komodo rules!
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Re: Komodo Dragon 3 Released by KomodoChess
From memory, they happened a move or so before the time control.lkaufman wrote: ↑Mon May 16, 2022 5:00 amAny common element to the time losses (GUI, or number of threads. or very long games...)? If we can't find a cause, we may just increase the default overhead ms a bit in the next release.Graham Banks wrote: ↑Mon May 16, 2022 12:45 am I've had a small number of time losses (less than 5) in the roughly 1000 games I've run for CCRL 40/15.
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I'am an idiot. It wasn't Komodo level 23, but 24. One mouse click instead of two. That explains everything.Fritz 0 wrote: ↑Sun May 01, 2022 3:20 pm And another unexpected thing - in a 1500 game match Dragon 3 Elo 2600 (which should be accurate as verified by GM Lenderman) lost to Komodo 14.1 level 23 by 209 ELo! Even compressed by 25% it is still over 150 Elo difference. Is it possible that Komodo 14.1 level 23 is 2750 rapid?!
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Dragon 3 (There is also a CB version) is a dubious engine, partly sick (see evals)! Get dubious draws on ChessBase Server PlayChess!
Look at the evals - and then this engine gets a draw - although my engine has a clear advantage after 12 moves - I also set the GUI Fritz 18 to "newer draw". Only this game went like that, all games before that against all other opponents not so strange.
[Event "Rated game, 5 min"]
[Site "Engine Room"]
[Date "2022.05.19"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Chesskiller05, Dragon 3 by Komodo "]
[Black "Solista, Catfish180522"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[ECO "C44"]
[WhiteElo "2824"]
[BlackElo "2816"]
[Annotator "1.04;-0.52"]
[PlyCount "24"]
[EventDate "2022.05.19"]
[SourceTitle "playchess.com"]
[TimeControl "300"]
{Solista vGeneral.ctg, 1024 MB} 1. e4 {1.04/13 10} e5 {B 0} 2. d4 {0.88/19 23}
exd4 {B 0} 3. Nf3 {0.88/12 6} Nc6 {B 0 (d7-d5)} 4. Bd3 {0.88/17 19} Bc5 {
-0.52/31 7 (Ff8-e7)} 5. c3 {0.22/15 25} dxc3 {-0.40/33 0} 6. Nxc3 {0.23/14 4}
Nge7 {-0.31/33 9} 7. O-O {0.27/15 5} O-O {-0.41/31 2 (d7-d6)} 8. Na4 {0.31/17
27} d6 {-0.47/35 0} 9. h3 {0.11/17 15} b6 {-0.33/34 0 (Fc5-b6)} 10. a3 {
-0.02/14 19} a5 {-0.46/34 2 (Cc6-d4)} 11. Bb5 {0.00/12 9 (Nxc5)} Bd7 {-0.67/26
4 (Fc8-e6)} 12. Nc3 {0.00/12 8} Qe8 {-0.64/30 0 (Ce7-g6)} 1/2-1/2
I will ignore Dragon players on PlayChess.
Look at the evals - and then this engine gets a draw - although my engine has a clear advantage after 12 moves - I also set the GUI Fritz 18 to "newer draw". Only this game went like that, all games before that against all other opponents not so strange.
[Event "Rated game, 5 min"]
[Site "Engine Room"]
[Date "2022.05.19"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Chesskiller05, Dragon 3 by Komodo "]
[Black "Solista, Catfish180522"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[ECO "C44"]
[WhiteElo "2824"]
[BlackElo "2816"]
[Annotator "1.04;-0.52"]
[PlyCount "24"]
[EventDate "2022.05.19"]
[SourceTitle "playchess.com"]
[TimeControl "300"]
{Solista vGeneral.ctg, 1024 MB} 1. e4 {1.04/13 10} e5 {B 0} 2. d4 {0.88/19 23}
exd4 {B 0} 3. Nf3 {0.88/12 6} Nc6 {B 0 (d7-d5)} 4. Bd3 {0.88/17 19} Bc5 {
-0.52/31 7 (Ff8-e7)} 5. c3 {0.22/15 25} dxc3 {-0.40/33 0} 6. Nxc3 {0.23/14 4}
Nge7 {-0.31/33 9} 7. O-O {0.27/15 5} O-O {-0.41/31 2 (d7-d6)} 8. Na4 {0.31/17
27} d6 {-0.47/35 0} 9. h3 {0.11/17 15} b6 {-0.33/34 0 (Fc5-b6)} 10. a3 {
-0.02/14 19} a5 {-0.46/34 2 (Cc6-d4)} 11. Bb5 {0.00/12 9 (Nxc5)} Bd7 {-0.67/26
4 (Fc8-e6)} 12. Nc3 {0.00/12 8} Qe8 {-0.64/30 0 (Ce7-g6)} 1/2-1/2
I will ignore Dragon players on PlayChess.
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Re: Komodo Dragon 3 Released by KomodoChess
Eduard wrote: ↑Thu May 19, 2022 12:11 pm Dragon 3 (There is also a CB version) is a dubious engine, partly sick (see evals)! Get dubious draws on ChessBase Server PlayChess!
Look at the evals - and then this engine gets a draw - although my engine has a clear advantage after 12 moves - I also set the GUI Fritz 18 to "newer draw". Only this game went like that, all games before that against all other opponents not so strange.
[Event "Rated game, 5 min"]
[Site "Engine Room"]
[Date "2022.05.19"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Chesskiller05, Dragon 3 by Komodo "]
[Black "Solista, Catfish180522"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[ECO "C44"]
[WhiteElo "2824"]
[BlackElo "2816"]
[Annotator "1.04;-0.52"]
[PlyCount "24"]
[EventDate "2022.05.19"]
[SourceTitle "playchess.com"]
[TimeControl "300"]
{Solista vGeneral.ctg, 1024 MB} 1. e4 {1.04/13 10} e5 {B 0} 2. d4 {0.88/19 23}
exd4 {B 0} 3. Nf3 {0.88/12 6} Nc6 {B 0 (d7-d5)} 4. Bd3 {0.88/17 19} Bc5 {
-0.52/31 7 (Ff8-e7)} 5. c3 {0.22/15 25} dxc3 {-0.40/33 0} 6. Nxc3 {0.23/14 4}
Nge7 {-0.31/33 9} 7. O-O {0.27/15 5} O-O {-0.41/31 2 (d7-d6)} 8. Na4 {0.31/17
27} d6 {-0.47/35 0} 9. h3 {0.11/17 15} b6 {-0.33/34 0 (Fc5-b6)} 10. a3 {
-0.02/14 19} a5 {-0.46/34 2 (Cc6-d4)} 11. Bb5 {0.00/12 9 (Nxc5)} Bd7 {-0.67/26
4 (Fc8-e6)} 12. Nc3 {0.00/12 8} Qe8 {-0.64/30 0 (Ce7-g6)} 1/2-1/2
I will ignore Dragon players on PlayChess.
I do not know who is white but white is not default dragon3(maybe the user did some changes in personality to produce strange evaluations and strange low depths.
I analyzed the position in move 12 with Dragon3 and I do not see a draw score and it get depth 19 in less than a second so do not expect me to believe dragon got only depth 12 after 8 seconds.
[fen]r2q1rk1/2pbnppp/1pnp4/pBb5/N3P3/P4N1P/1P3PP1/R1BQ1RK1 w - - 2 12[/fen]
Dragon-3-64bit-avx2:
Found 145 WDL and 145 DTZ tablebase files (up to 5-man).
1 00:00 11 5k -0.89 Na4xc5 b6xc5
1 00:00 152 71k -0.77 Rf1-e1
1 00:00 273 126k -0.55 Bc1-g5
2 00:00 597 257k -0.86 Bc1-g5 Qd8-e8
2 00:00 853 357k -0.80 b2-b3 Qd8-e8
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Re: Komodo Dragon 3 Released by KomodoChess
The whole game was very strange. With Dragon, there's always some weird stuff happening on the server. In this player's account name you can read: "my best engine is Dragon 2.5". This can only be a joke, sorry.
What annoys me is: The server drew this game on move 12, even though my GUI is set to "never draw". In addition, I'm clearly better in the game, so the server can never automatically give a draw like that. Apparently some people work with tricks and apparently the Dragon Engine is good for such things. That disgusts me.
What annoys me is: The server drew this game on move 12, even though my GUI is set to "never draw". In addition, I'm clearly better in the game, so the server can never automatically give a draw like that. Apparently some people work with tricks and apparently the Dragon Engine is good for such things. That disgusts me.
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Re: Komodo Dragon 3 Released by KomodoChess
Chesskiller is a well known cheater on playchess server.
Eduard start your brain before ignoring all Dragon3 players!!
Eduard start your brain before ignoring all Dragon3 players!!