Carlsen withdrawal after loss to Niemann

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Re: Carlsen withdrawal after loss to Niemann

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Chessqueen wrote: Tue Sep 20, 2022 1:00 am
CornfedForever wrote: Tue Sep 20, 2022 12:45 am
Chessqueen wrote: Tue Sep 20, 2022 12:39 am
Graham Banks wrote: Tue Sep 20, 2022 12:10 am
CornfedForever wrote: Mon Sep 19, 2022 8:23 pm
AdminX wrote: Mon Sep 19, 2022 7:53 pm Maybe all online chess should now start to require dual webcam setups as well, just as they do in these major online events.
That does not appear to be good enough for Magnus.
He is cheating everyone else as he gifted Hans 3 points. That is simply not fair to them.
He's a dick. Behaving like a spoilt prat.
Now more people are agreeing that Carlsen is spoiled, come on, Carlsen resigned after playing the first move, Carlsen owe a lot of explanation to all his chess Fans==>
One thing Trump taught everyone (with an ego)...always 'double down'.
GM Hans was offered $1 Million to play Chess Naked with beautiful Girls a las Vegas Style, and it will be pay per view like Boxing ==>
This is a better video ==>
I just finished playing a 5 minutes game in Chess.com and I was playing White against an 1800 player, but after I played 1.d4 1.Nf6 2.c4 he resigned I was so frustrated, because he did NOT give me a chance to cheat against him using Stockfish :lol: :mrgreen: :lol:
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Re: Carlsen withdrawal after loss to Niemann

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Chessqueen wrote: Tue Sep 20, 2022 1:34 am
Chessqueen wrote: Tue Sep 20, 2022 1:00 am
CornfedForever wrote: Tue Sep 20, 2022 12:45 am
Chessqueen wrote: Tue Sep 20, 2022 12:39 am
Graham Banks wrote: Tue Sep 20, 2022 12:10 am
CornfedForever wrote: Mon Sep 19, 2022 8:23 pm
AdminX wrote: Mon Sep 19, 2022 7:53 pm Maybe all online chess should now start to require dual webcam setups as well, just as they do in these major online events.
That does not appear to be good enough for Magnus.
He is cheating everyone else as he gifted Hans 3 points. That is simply not fair to them.
He's a dick. Behaving like a spoilt prat.
Now more people are agreeing that Carlsen is spoiled, come on, Carlsen resigned after playing the first move, Carlsen owe a lot of explanation to all his chess Fans==>
One thing Trump taught everyone (with an ego)...always 'double down'.
GM Hans was offered $1 Million to play Chess Naked with beautiful Girls a las Vegas Style, and it will be pay per view like Boxing ==>
This is a better video ==>
I just finished playing a 5 minutes game in Chess.com and I was playing White against an 1800 player, but after I played 1.d4 1.Nf6 2.c4 he resigned I was so frustrated, because he did NOT give me a chance to cheat against him using Stockfish :lol: :mrgreen: :lol:
Honestly, there is something wrong with Carlsen, I hope he does NOT commit suicide :cry:
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Re: Carlsen withdrawal after loss to Niemann

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Hello folks,
what Carlsen is doing is not right. He plays the judge, which he is not.

Carlsen has been learning how to play against Caruana and other TOP 10 players for years. He doesn't know his way around players he doesn't know.

In his defeat against Niemann, he played really badly. Even without a computer, an average GM can win a game like this. Because Carlsen was weak.

The point is, if someone believes their opponent is cheating, that false belief alone will make you play poorly.

I also play online on servers like Lichess (account Solista). If I just think my opponent is cheating, then I'm playing really weak. My opponent doesn't have to cheat.
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Re: Carlsen withdrawal after loss to Niemann

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Eduard wrote: Tue Sep 20, 2022 5:44 am Hello folks,
what Carlsen is doing is not right. He plays the judge, which he is not.

Carlsen has been learning how to play against Caruana and other TOP 10 players for years. He doesn't know his way around players he doesn't know.

In his defeat against Niemann, he played really badly. Even without a computer, an average GM can win a game like this. Because Carlsen was weak.

The point is, if someone believes their opponent is cheating, that false belief alone will make you play poorly.

I also play online on servers like Lichess (account Solista). If I just think my opponent is cheating, then I'm playing really weak. My opponent doesn't have to cheat.
I Believe in Bobby Fischer Theory, that most chess games are prearranged and Carlsen forgot his line==>


The verdict Dr. Regan analyzed all of Hans Niemann's games over the last two years, including online games, such as played on Chess.com and their events, and his conclusion is there is no reason whatsoever to suspect him of cheating. This is explained scientifically here ==> https://en.chessbase.com/post/is-hans-n ... n-analyzes
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Re: Carlsen withdrawal after loss to Niemann

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There's a serious danger here that it's all about Carlsen's ego not being able to accept defeat.
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Werewolf wrote: Tue Sep 20, 2022 1:11 pm There's a serious danger here that it's all about Carlsen's ego not being able to accept defeat.
Well, I am pretty sure that is not true. I think it is more about the fact that he decided to take a serious position on players known to have cheated. If I blame anyone it's Niemann as he inflected the damage to his own reputation and the cause for players lack of trust in him. Some times it is better to understand than it is to be understood, even if you disagree.
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Re: Carlsen withdrawal after loss to Niemann

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The verdict

Dr. Regan analyzed all of Hans Niemann's games over the last two years, including online games, such as played on Chess.com and their events, and his conclusion is there is no reason whatsoever to suspect him of cheating. The wide range of results in a bell curve, with some good and some bad, is actually a sign of a healthy distribution of results. Many of the so-called points of suspicion are in fact quite normal and suspicion is really the result of faulty analysis by zealous amateurs. Even online his play has been quite devoid of anything unusual.

https://en.chessbase.com/post/is-hans-n ... n-analyzes
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Graham Banks wrote: Tue Sep 20, 2022 1:30 pm The verdict

Dr. Regan analyzed all of Hans Niemann's games over the last two years, including online games, such as played on Chess.com and their events, and his conclusion is there is no reason whatsoever to suspect him of cheating. The wide range of results in a bell curve, with some good and some bad, is actually a sign of a healthy distribution of results. Many of the so-called points of suspicion are in fact quite normal and suspicion is really the result of faulty analysis by zealous amateurs. Even online his play has been quite devoid of anything unusual.

https://en.chessbase.com/post/is-hans-n ... n-analyzes
So lets see, he (Niemann) has admitted to cheating online in events, however Dr Regan could not detect it anywhere.
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Re: Carlsen withdrawal after loss to Niemann

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AdminX wrote: Tue Sep 20, 2022 1:40 pm
Graham Banks wrote: Tue Sep 20, 2022 1:30 pm The verdict

Dr. Regan analyzed all of Hans Niemann's games over the last two years, including online games, such as played on Chess.com and their events, and his conclusion is there is no reason whatsoever to suspect him of cheating. The wide range of results in a bell curve, with some good and some bad, is actually a sign of a healthy distribution of results. Many of the so-called points of suspicion are in fact quite normal and suspicion is really the result of faulty analysis by zealous amateurs. Even online his play has been quite devoid of anything unusual.

https://en.chessbase.com/post/is-hans-n ... n-analyzes
So lets see, he (Niemann) has admitted to cheating online in events, however Dr Regan could not detect it anywhere.
That was more than 2 years ago, when Niemann was 12 and 16.
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Graham Banks wrote: Tue Sep 20, 2022 1:43 pm
AdminX wrote: Tue Sep 20, 2022 1:40 pm
Graham Banks wrote: Tue Sep 20, 2022 1:30 pm The verdict

Dr. Regan analyzed all of Hans Niemann's games over the last two years, including online games, such as played on Chess.com and their events, and his conclusion is there is no reason whatsoever to suspect him of cheating. The wide range of results in a bell curve, with some good and some bad, is actually a sign of a healthy distribution of results. Many of the so-called points of suspicion are in fact quite normal and suspicion is really the result of faulty analysis by zealous amateurs. Even online his play has been quite devoid of anything unusual.

https://en.chessbase.com/post/is-hans-n ... n-analyzes
So lets see, he (Niemann) has admitted to cheating online in events, however Dr Regan could not detect it anywhere.
That was more than 2 years ago, when Niemann was 12 and 16.
The games are still there however, it is not like they are missing. Plus this is only what is has admitted to after being caught. Maybe you are right and he is not cheating any more, however the little boy who cried wolf comes to my mind.
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