It is funny that Sting is doing *better* than Stockfish, even though SF is much stronger than Sting.
Go team Sting!
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Re: Round 5 Pairings
tu ne cede malis, sed contra audentior ito
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Matthew, note that Sting is able to reach 26 or more depth in midle-game!ZirconiumX wrote:It is funny that Sting is doing *better* than Stockfish, even though SF is much stronger than Sting.
Go team Sting!
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Except the game with Houdini, a pity.

It makes that Sting can be a very challenging opponent.
I hope the version 3 can give a 50 (or more) ELO points and the problem, that SF is much stronger, will go away.

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Re: Round 5 Pairings
definitely a bug ! Should be easy to trace. Maybe hidden when Elo values are defined.Carlos777 wrote:Houdini should have been paired with Rybka. Something is wrong with ChessGUI swiss pairings.
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Re: Round 5 Pairings
Yes, because I didn't enter Elo values for each engine. I just entered them in order of strength from the top down when setting up the tourney.Matthias Gemuh wrote:definitely a bug ! Should be easy to trace. Maybe hidden when Elo values are defined.Carlos777 wrote:Houdini should have been paired with Rybka. Something is wrong with ChessGUI swiss pairings.
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Re: Round 5 Pairings
I don't know if SF is *much* stronger than Sting. Only playing hundreds of blitz games would give us the answer, but I doubt the result would be several hundreds of elo points. Maybe Sting's author has conducted such tests ?ZirconiumX wrote:It is funny that Sting is doing *better* than Stockfish, even though SF is much stronger than Sting.
Go team Sting!
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But the fact that Sting is ahead of SF 0.5 points after 4 games is merely statistical noise. No conclusion can be drawn from that. Also: have they played the same opponents in the same position with the same color in the 4 games ? (another source of statistical noise when one looks at truncated results)
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Sorry, I meant biaislucasart wrote:Also: have they played the same opponents in the same position with the same color in the 4 games ? (another source of statistical noise when one looks at truncated results)
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Re: Round 5 Pairings
Stokfish is 5º already with 3 points like Sting,
maybe next fight match ...
It's nice that an author is ambitious (Marek in this case),
but the truth is that higher ratings are very expensive ....
Take this opportunity to congratulate Graham,
I'm almost continuously connected, but my poor English ...
Thanks, Graham.
maybe next fight match ...
It's nice that an author is ambitious (Marek in this case),
but the truth is that higher ratings are very expensive ....
Take this opportunity to congratulate Graham,

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e.g. electricity billvelmarin wrote: It's nice that an author is ambitious (Marek in this case),
but the truth is that higher ratings are very expensive ....

Good luck for Bouquet!
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Re: Round 5 Pairings
The power company does well out of my household.lech wrote:e.g. electricity billvelmarin wrote: It's nice that an author is ambitious (Marek in this case),
but the truth is that higher ratings are very expensive ....![]()
Good luck for Bouquet!
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Round 5 Results and Standings
Round 5
Deep Rybka 4.1S 64-bit 8CPU v IvanHoe 9.46h 64-bit 8CPU (draw)
Houdini 2.0c 64-bit 8CPU v Deep Hiarcs 14 8CPU (1-0)
Deep Shredder 12 64-bit 8CPU v Spark 1.0 64-bit 8CPU (0-1)
Vitruvius 1.11C 64-bit 8CPU v Sting SF PV 120629 64-bit 8CPU (draw)
DeepSaros 3.0 64-bit 8CPU v Bouquet 1.5 64-bit 8CPU (draw)
Deep Sjeng WC2008 64-bit 8CPU v Protector 1.4.0 64-bit 8CPU (draw)
Critter 1.6a 64-bit 8CPU v Deep Junior 13.3 64-bit 8CPU (1-0)
Stockfish 2.3.1 64-bit 8CPU v Tornado 4.88 64-bit 8CPU (1-0)
Naum 4.2 64-bit 8CPU v Deep Onno 1.2.70 64-bit 8CPU (draw)
Chiron 1.1a 64-bit 8CPU v MinkoChess 1.3 64-bit 8CPU (1-0)
Crafty 23.5 64-bit 8CPU v Jonny 4.00 8CPU (draw)
Arasan 15.0 64-bit 8CPU v Zappa Mexico II 64-bit 8CPU (0-1)
Arminius 2012-08-14 8CPU v Gaviota 0.85.1 64-bit 8CPU (1-0)
Bright 0.5c 8CPU v BugChess2 1.9 64-bit 8CPU (draw)
Standings after Round 5
4.5 - Houdini 2.0c 64-bit 8CPU
4.0 - Deep Rybka 4.1S 64-bit 8CPU
3.5 - IvanHoe 9.46h 64-bit 8CPU
3.5 - Spark 1.0 64-bit 8CPU
3.0 - Stockfish 2.3.1 64-bit 8CPU
3.0 - Critter 1.6a 64-bit 8CPU
3.0 - Vitruvius 1.11C 64-bit 8CPU
3.0 - Deep Hiarcs 14 8CPU
3.0 - DeepSaros 3.0 64-bit 8CPU
3.0 - Bouquet 1.5 64-bit 8CPU
3.0 - Sting SF PV 120629 64-bit 8CPU
3.0 - Deep Shredder 12 64-bit 8CPU
2.5 - Naum 4.2 64-bit 8CPU
2.5 - Chiron 1.1a 64-bit 8CPU
2.5 - Protector 1.4.0 64-bit 8CPU
2.5 - Zappa Mexico II 64-bit 8CPU
2.5 - Deep Sjeng WC2008 64-bit 8CPU
2.0 - Deep Junior 13.3 64-bit 8CPU
2.0 - Deep Onno 1.2.70 64-bit 8CPU
2.0 - Tornado 4.88 64-bit 8CPU
2.0 - Crafty 23.5 64-bit 8CPU
2.0 - Jonny 4.00 8CPU
2.0 - Arminius 2012-08-14 8CPU
1.5 - MinkoChess 1.3 64-bit 8CPU
1.5 - BugChess2 1.9 64-bit 8CPU
1.5 - Gaviota 0.85.1 64-bit 8CPU
1.0 - Arasan 15.0 64-bit 8CPU
0.5 - Bright 0.5c 8CPU
Round 5 PGN - http://kirill-kryukov.com/chess/discuss ... p?id=27618
Deep Rybka 4.1S 64-bit 8CPU v IvanHoe 9.46h 64-bit 8CPU (draw)
Houdini 2.0c 64-bit 8CPU v Deep Hiarcs 14 8CPU (1-0)
Deep Shredder 12 64-bit 8CPU v Spark 1.0 64-bit 8CPU (0-1)
Vitruvius 1.11C 64-bit 8CPU v Sting SF PV 120629 64-bit 8CPU (draw)
DeepSaros 3.0 64-bit 8CPU v Bouquet 1.5 64-bit 8CPU (draw)
Deep Sjeng WC2008 64-bit 8CPU v Protector 1.4.0 64-bit 8CPU (draw)
Critter 1.6a 64-bit 8CPU v Deep Junior 13.3 64-bit 8CPU (1-0)
Stockfish 2.3.1 64-bit 8CPU v Tornado 4.88 64-bit 8CPU (1-0)
Naum 4.2 64-bit 8CPU v Deep Onno 1.2.70 64-bit 8CPU (draw)
Chiron 1.1a 64-bit 8CPU v MinkoChess 1.3 64-bit 8CPU (1-0)
Crafty 23.5 64-bit 8CPU v Jonny 4.00 8CPU (draw)
Arasan 15.0 64-bit 8CPU v Zappa Mexico II 64-bit 8CPU (0-1)
Arminius 2012-08-14 8CPU v Gaviota 0.85.1 64-bit 8CPU (1-0)
Bright 0.5c 8CPU v BugChess2 1.9 64-bit 8CPU (draw)
Standings after Round 5
4.5 - Houdini 2.0c 64-bit 8CPU
4.0 - Deep Rybka 4.1S 64-bit 8CPU
3.5 - IvanHoe 9.46h 64-bit 8CPU
3.5 - Spark 1.0 64-bit 8CPU
3.0 - Stockfish 2.3.1 64-bit 8CPU
3.0 - Critter 1.6a 64-bit 8CPU
3.0 - Vitruvius 1.11C 64-bit 8CPU
3.0 - Deep Hiarcs 14 8CPU
3.0 - DeepSaros 3.0 64-bit 8CPU
3.0 - Bouquet 1.5 64-bit 8CPU
3.0 - Sting SF PV 120629 64-bit 8CPU
3.0 - Deep Shredder 12 64-bit 8CPU
2.5 - Naum 4.2 64-bit 8CPU
2.5 - Chiron 1.1a 64-bit 8CPU
2.5 - Protector 1.4.0 64-bit 8CPU
2.5 - Zappa Mexico II 64-bit 8CPU
2.5 - Deep Sjeng WC2008 64-bit 8CPU
2.0 - Deep Junior 13.3 64-bit 8CPU
2.0 - Deep Onno 1.2.70 64-bit 8CPU
2.0 - Tornado 4.88 64-bit 8CPU
2.0 - Crafty 23.5 64-bit 8CPU
2.0 - Jonny 4.00 8CPU
2.0 - Arminius 2012-08-14 8CPU
1.5 - MinkoChess 1.3 64-bit 8CPU
1.5 - BugChess2 1.9 64-bit 8CPU
1.5 - Gaviota 0.85.1 64-bit 8CPU
1.0 - Arasan 15.0 64-bit 8CPU
0.5 - Bright 0.5c 8CPU
Round 5 PGN - http://kirill-kryukov.com/chess/discuss ... p?id=27618
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