How many NN Engines are there ?

[Chessqueen]

..................some engines have new versions..... but the essence is in this table................

Can somebody here run a tournament of all the NN and NNUE engines Besides SF NNUE, Komodo Dragon, and Lela, which are obviously the strongest one. and post it here or create a Link on Youtube.com ?

Sure I can do this easily. I have Dragon, Lc0, Stockfish on my system.

Just add the engines you want, and a link to the engines for me to add them. And I will run your tournament.

mwyoung I read on TCEC that rofChade was just converted into rue NNUE, but the version playing now is NOT since it was NOT ready when league 1 started, so how many elo stronger is rofChade NNUE at the moment at least 180, if that is the case Allie and even Komodo Dragon will have a challenge in the Premier division https://tcec-chess.com/live.html

This was a very interesting draw game versus Ethereal https://tcec-chess.com/live.html#div=l1 ... &season=20

[Madeleine Birchfield]

mwyoung I read on TCEC that rofChade was just converted into rue NNUE, but the version playing now is NOT since it was NOT ready when league 1 started, so how many elo stronger is rofChade NNUE at the moment at least 180, if that is the case Allie and even Komodo Dragon will have a challenge in the Premier division https://tcec-chess.com/live.html

This was a very interesting draw game versus Ethereal https://tcec-chess.com/live.html#div=l1 ... &season=20

Aloril said that the updated rofchade sent to division Premier is not NNUE.

[Chessqueen]

mwyoung I read on TCEC that rofChade was just converted into rue NNUE, but the version playing now is NOT since it was NOT ready when league 1 started, so how many elo stronger is rofChade NNUE at the moment at least 180, if that is the case Allie and even Komodo Dragon will have a challenge in the Premier division https://tcec-chess.com/live.html

This was a very interesting draw game versus Ethereal https://tcec-chess.com/live.html#div=l1 ... &season=20

Aloril said that the updated rofchade sent to division Premier is not NNUE.

That is probably the reason why rofChade is performing so bad, if the programmer who mentioned on his last upgrade that it is very hard to increase strength on his program decides to add NN or his own version of NNUE rofChade would at least had score 2 points at TCEC S20. Is Stoofvlees using NN or NNUE?
https://tcec-chess.com/live.html

[Sylwy]

I updated my list.

[Chessqueen]

I updated my list.

I believe you forgot to include Toga III 0.4 NNUE on your updated List
http://talkchess.com/forum3/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=75027

[Sylwy]

I updated my list.

I believe you forgot to include Toga III 0.4 NNUE on your updated List
http://talkchess.com/forum3/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=75027

Yeah...........+ a0lite...........both untested by myself !

[Chessqueen]

I updated my list.

I believe you forgot to include Toga III 0.4 NNUE on your updated List
http://talkchess.com/forum3/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=75027

Yeah...........+ a0lite...........both untested by myself !

Which of all these engines do NOT require GPU ? and which one do require the use of GPU ?

[Sylwy]

I updated my list.

I believe you forgot to include Toga III 0.4 NNUE on your updated List
http://talkchess.com/forum3/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=75027

Yeah...........+ a0lite...........both untested by myself !

Which of all these engines do NOT require GPU ? and which one do require the use of GPU ?

ALL ! Even Lc0 (mainly a GPU engine) was listed with dnnl & openblas versions (both for CPU).

[dkappe]

Toga III 0.1 is the Toga III 0.4 NNUE and the Toga II 4.0.1 engine with the eval replaced by nnue.

https://github.com/dkappe/TogaIII/tree/nnue

Is far from optimized, but already promising (latest Arasan).

Code: Select all

Score of arasan vs toga3: 44 - 23 - 33  [0.605] 100
Elo difference: 74.1 +/- 56.8, LOS: 99.5 %, DrawRatio: 33.0 %

The julia version of a0lite uses both nnue (night nurse) and nn (bad gyal) in a hybrid fashion. Can be run on cpu or gpu.