Komodo Dragon Vs. GM Perelshteyn Where is the Link ?

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Re: Komodo Dragon Vs. GM Perelshteyn Where is the Link ?

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Chessqueen wrote: Sat Nov 13, 2021 5:35 am I already finished testing 1000 games with each contempt = 80 and 85 against Gaviota-0.86-win64, and contempt 85 is only slightly better by 2% :roll:
I decided to run another pair of 1000 games with each contempt = 80 and 85 against Gaviota-0.86-win64, and this time contempt 80 performed slightly better by 10% :?:
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Re: Komodo Dragon Vs. GM Perelshteyn Where is the Link ?

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Chessqueen wrote: Sat Nov 13, 2021 9:24 pm
Chessqueen wrote: Sat Nov 13, 2021 5:35 am I already finished testing 1000 games with each contempt = 80 and 85 against Gaviota-0.86-win64, and contempt 85 is only slightly better by 2% :roll:
I decided to run another pair of 1000 games with each contempt = 80 and 85 against Gaviota-0.86-win64, and this time contempt 80 performed slightly better by 10% :?:
I ran 1000 games with Contempt = 85 (using latest dev. version and other optimized settings, one thread, 2' + 1") against Gaviota-0.86-win64, and got the best result yet (-4 elo, compared with -10 elo for Contempt = 80 with same other settings). I'm using the ChrisW knight odds book to get the needed variety. Are you also doing that, or if not what are you doing to avoid getting the same openings game after game? Also, when you say 10% better, do you mean 10 percentage points better? That would be an enormous swing, 70 elo, totally beyond anything plausible for a tiny change to Contempt.
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Re: Komodo Dragon Vs. GM Perelshteyn Where is the Link ?

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lkaufman wrote: Sat Nov 13, 2021 10:21 pm
Chessqueen wrote: Sat Nov 13, 2021 9:24 pm
Chessqueen wrote: Sat Nov 13, 2021 5:35 am I already finished testing 1000 games with each contempt = 80 and 85 against Gaviota-0.86-win64, and contempt 85 is only slightly better by 2% :roll:
I decided to run another pair of 1000 games with each contempt = 80 and 85 against Gaviota-0.86-win64, and this time contempt 80 performed slightly better by 10% :?:
I ran 1000 games with Contempt = 85 (using latest dev. version and other optimized settings, one thread, 2' + 1") against Gaviota-0.86-win64, and got the best result yet (-4 elo, compared with -10 elo for Contempt = 80 with same other settings). I'm using the ChrisW knight odds book to get the needed variety. Are you also doing that, or if not what are you doing to avoid getting the same openings game after game? Also, when you say 10% better, do you mean 10 percentage points better? That would be an enormous swing, 70 elo, totally beyond anything plausible for a tiny change to Contempt.
Oh Boy I did NOT checked how many repeated games I got out of the 1000, but Now we are in the right track having the best Contempt, and with your next upgraded version of Komodo and to only play 2 games with b1 Knight Missing and 4 games with the g1, I believe that a 2510 rated GMs will have a hard time against Komodo Dragon xxx.x. Another thing that can be done is to take all the losing opening out of ChristW knight odds book and only leave the opening leading to a win. You already have played enough games to be able to filter all the losing Knight odds openings of ChrisW knight odds book against Gaviota, and to keep only the openings that lead to a win :roll:
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Re: Komodo Dragon Vs. GM Perelshteyn Where is the Link ?

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Chessqueen wrote: Sat Nov 13, 2021 10:43 pm
lkaufman wrote: Sat Nov 13, 2021 10:21 pm
Chessqueen wrote: Sat Nov 13, 2021 9:24 pm
Chessqueen wrote: Sat Nov 13, 2021 5:35 am I already finished testing 1000 games with each contempt = 80 and 85 against Gaviota-0.86-win64, and contempt 85 is only slightly better by 2% :roll:
I decided to run another pair of 1000 games with each contempt = 80 and 85 against Gaviota-0.86-win64, and this time contempt 80 performed slightly better by 10% :?:
I ran 1000 games with Contempt = 85 (using latest dev. version and other optimized settings, one thread, 2' + 1") against Gaviota-0.86-win64, and got the best result yet (-4 elo, compared with -10 elo for Contempt = 80 with same other settings). I'm using the ChrisW knight odds book to get the needed variety. Are you also doing that, or if not what are you doing to avoid getting the same openings game after game? Also, when you say 10% better, do you mean 10 percentage points better? That would be an enormous swing, 70 elo, totally beyond anything plausible for a tiny change to Contempt.
Oh Boy I did NOT checked how many repeated games I got out of the 1000, but Now we are in the right track having the best Contempt, and with your next upgraded version of Komodo and to only play 2 games with b1 Knight Missing and 4 games with the g1, I believe that a 2510 rated GMs will have a hard time against Komodo Dragon xxx.x. Another thing that can be done is to take all the losing opening out of ChristW knight odds book and only leave the opening leading to a win. You already have played enough games to be able to filter all the losing Knight odds openings of ChrisW knight odds book against Gaviota, and to keep only the openings that lead to a win :roll:

The ChrisW book is for engine testing and has no relation to my book used for playing humans.
Komodo rules!
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Re: Komodo Dragon Vs. GM Perelshteyn Where is the Link ?

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lkaufman wrote: Sun Nov 14, 2021 1:20 am
Chessqueen wrote: Sat Nov 13, 2021 10:43 pm
lkaufman wrote: Sat Nov 13, 2021 10:21 pm
Chessqueen wrote: Sat Nov 13, 2021 9:24 pm
Chessqueen wrote: Sat Nov 13, 2021 5:35 am I already finished testing 1000 games with each contempt = 80 and 85 against Gaviota-0.86-win64, and contempt 85 is only slightly better by 2% :roll:
I decided to run another pair of 1000 games with each contempt = 80 and 85 against Gaviota-0.86-win64, and this time contempt 80 performed slightly better by 10% :?:
I ran 1000 games with Contempt = 85 (using latest dev. version and other optimized settings, one thread, 2' + 1") against Gaviota-0.86-win64, and got the best result yet (-4 elo, compared with -10 elo for Contempt = 80 with same other settings). I'm using the ChrisW knight odds book to get the needed variety. Are you also doing that, or if not what are you doing to avoid getting the same openings game after game? Also, when you say 10% better, do you mean 10 percentage points better? That would be an enormous swing, 70 elo, totally beyond anything plausible for a tiny change to Contempt.
Oh Boy I did NOT checked how many repeated games I got out of the 1000, but Now we are in the right track having the best Contempt, and with your next upgraded version of Komodo and to only play 2 games with b1 Knight Missing and 4 games with the g1, I believe that a 2510 rated GMs will have a hard time against Komodo Dragon xxx.x. Another thing that can be done is to take all the losing opening out of ChristW knight odds book and only leave the opening leading to a win. You already have played enough games to be able to filter all the losing Knight odds openings of ChrisW knight odds book against Gaviota, and to keep only the openings that lead to a win :roll:

The ChrisW book is for engine testing and has no relation to my book used for playing humans.
I thought that you used the ChrisW book when Komodo played Versus Chris W and he was making a move per day :roll: :lol: :roll:
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Re: Komodo Dragon Vs. GM Perelshteyn Where is the Link ?

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Chessqueen wrote: Sun Nov 14, 2021 2:42 am
lkaufman wrote: Sun Nov 14, 2021 1:20 am
Chessqueen wrote: Sat Nov 13, 2021 10:43 pm
lkaufman wrote: Sat Nov 13, 2021 10:21 pm
Chessqueen wrote: Sat Nov 13, 2021 9:24 pm
Chessqueen wrote: Sat Nov 13, 2021 5:35 am I already finished testing 1000 games with each contempt = 80 and 85 against Gaviota-0.86-win64, and contempt 85 is only slightly better by 2% :roll:
I decided to run another pair of 1000 games with each contempt = 80 and 85 against Gaviota-0.86-win64, and this time contempt 80 performed slightly better by 10% :?:
I ran 1000 games with Contempt = 85 (using latest dev. version and other optimized settings, one thread, 2' + 1") against Gaviota-0.86-win64, and got the best result yet (-4 elo, compared with -10 elo for Contempt = 80 with same other settings). I'm using the ChrisW knight odds book to get the needed variety. Are you also doing that, or if not what are you doing to avoid getting the same openings game after game? Also, when you say 10% better, do you mean 10 percentage points better? That would be an enormous swing, 70 elo, totally beyond anything plausible for a tiny change to Contempt.
Oh Boy I did NOT checked how many repeated games I got out of the 1000, but Now we are in the right track having the best Contempt, and with your next upgraded version of Komodo and to only play 2 games with b1 Knight Missing and 4 games with the g1, I believe that a 2510 rated GMs will have a hard time against Komodo Dragon xxx.x. Another thing that can be done is to take all the losing opening out of ChristW knight odds book and only leave the opening leading to a win. You already have played enough games to be able to filter all the losing Knight odds openings of ChrisW knight odds book against Gaviota, and to keep only the openings that lead to a win :roll:

The ChrisW book is for engine testing and has no relation to my book used for playing humans.
I thought that you used the ChrisW book when Komodo played Versus Chris W and he was making a move per day :roll: :lol: :roll:
I used no book for that game. My book doesn’t even cover 1...Nf6 at knight odds.
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Re: Komodo Dragon Vs. GM Perelshteyn Where is the Link ?

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lkaufman wrote: Sun Nov 14, 2021 3:06 am
Chessqueen wrote: Sun Nov 14, 2021 2:42 am
lkaufman wrote: Sun Nov 14, 2021 1:20 am
Chessqueen wrote: Sat Nov 13, 2021 10:43 pm
lkaufman wrote: Sat Nov 13, 2021 10:21 pm
Chessqueen wrote: Sat Nov 13, 2021 9:24 pm
Chessqueen wrote: Sat Nov 13, 2021 5:35 am I already finished testing 1000 games with each contempt = 80 and 85 against Gaviota-0.86-win64, and contempt 85 is only slightly better by 2% :roll:
I decided to run another pair of 1000 games with each contempt = 80 and 85 against Gaviota-0.86-win64, and this time contempt 80 performed slightly better by 10% :?:
I ran 1000 games with Contempt = 85 (using latest dev. version and other optimized settings, one thread, 2' + 1") against Gaviota-0.86-win64, and got the best result yet (-4 elo, compared with -10 elo for Contempt = 80 with same other settings). I'm using the ChrisW knight odds book to get the needed variety. Are you also doing that, or if not what are you doing to avoid getting the same openings game after game? Also, when you say 10% better, do you mean 10 percentage points better? That would be an enormous swing, 70 elo, totally beyond anything plausible for a tiny change to Contempt.
Oh Boy I did NOT checked how many repeated games I got out of the 1000, but Now we are in the right track having the best Contempt, and with your next upgraded version of Komodo and to only play 2 games with b1 Knight Missing and 4 games with the g1, I believe that a 2510 rated GMs will have a hard time against Komodo Dragon xxx.x. Another thing that can be done is to take all the losing opening out of ChristW knight odds book and only leave the opening leading to a win. You already have played enough games to be able to filter all the losing Knight odds openings of ChrisW knight odds book against Gaviota, and to keep only the openings that lead to a win :roll:

The ChrisW book is for engine testing and has no relation to my book used for playing humans.
I thought that you used the ChrisW book when Komodo played Versus Chris W and he was making a move per day :roll: :lol: :roll:
I used no book for that game. My book doesn’t even cover 1...Nf6 at knight odds.
I suppose that by the next GM Knight odds challenge against Komodo Dragon, it should be ready to challenge at least a 2525 rated players after you have chosen the best Opening that lead to a win :roll:
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Re: Komodo Dragon Vs. GM Perelshteyn Where is the Link ?

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Chessqueen wrote: Sun Nov 14, 2021 5:10 pm
lkaufman wrote: Sun Nov 14, 2021 3:06 am
Chessqueen wrote: Sun Nov 14, 2021 2:42 am
lkaufman wrote: Sun Nov 14, 2021 1:20 am
Chessqueen wrote: Sat Nov 13, 2021 10:43 pm
lkaufman wrote: Sat Nov 13, 2021 10:21 pm
Chessqueen wrote: Sat Nov 13, 2021 9:24 pm
Chessqueen wrote: Sat Nov 13, 2021 5:35 am I already finished testing 1000 games with each contempt = 80 and 85 against Gaviota-0.86-win64, and contempt 85 is only slightly better by 2% :roll:
I decided to run another pair of 1000 games with each contempt = 80 and 85 against Gaviota-0.86-win64, and this time contempt 80 performed slightly better by 10% :?:
I ran 1000 games with Contempt = 85 (using latest dev. version and other optimized settings, one thread, 2' + 1") against Gaviota-0.86-win64, and got the best result yet (-4 elo, compared with -10 elo for Contempt = 80 with same other settings). I'm using the ChrisW knight odds book to get the needed variety. Are you also doing that, or if not what are you doing to avoid getting the same openings game after game? Also, when you say 10% better, do you mean 10 percentage points better? That would be an enormous swing, 70 elo, totally beyond anything plausible for a tiny change to Contempt.
Oh Boy I did NOT checked how many repeated games I got out of the 1000, but Now we are in the right track having the best Contempt, and with your next upgraded version of Komodo and to only play 2 games with b1 Knight Missing and 4 games with the g1, I believe that a 2510 rated GMs will have a hard time against Komodo Dragon xxx.x. Another thing that can be done is to take all the losing opening out of ChristW knight odds book and only leave the opening leading to a win. You already have played enough games to be able to filter all the losing Knight odds openings of ChrisW knight odds book against Gaviota, and to keep only the openings that lead to a win :roll:

The ChrisW book is for engine testing and has no relation to my book used for playing humans.
I thought that you used the ChrisW book when Komodo played Versus Chris W and he was making a move per day :roll: :lol: :roll:
I used no book for that game. My book doesn’t even cover 1...Nf6 at knight odds.
I suppose that by the next GM Knight odds challenge against Komodo Dragon, it should be ready to challenge at least a 2525 rated players after you have chosen the best Opening that lead to a win :roll:
All openings end in dead lost positions for White at knight odds with proper play by Black. All we can do with the book is to aim for positions that are harder to convert than others.
Komodo rules!
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Re: Komodo Dragon Vs. GM Perelshteyn Where is the Link ?

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lkaufman wrote: Sun Nov 14, 2021 5:40 pm
Chessqueen wrote: Sun Nov 14, 2021 5:10 pm
lkaufman wrote: Sun Nov 14, 2021 3:06 am
Chessqueen wrote: Sun Nov 14, 2021 2:42 am
lkaufman wrote: Sun Nov 14, 2021 1:20 am
Chessqueen wrote: Sat Nov 13, 2021 10:43 pm
lkaufman wrote: Sat Nov 13, 2021 10:21 pm
Chessqueen wrote: Sat Nov 13, 2021 9:24 pm
Chessqueen wrote: Sat Nov 13, 2021 5:35 am I already finished testing 1000 games with each contempt = 80 and 85 against Gaviota-0.86-win64, and contempt 85 is only slightly better by 2% :roll:
I decided to run another pair of 1000 games with each contempt = 80 and 85 against Gaviota-0.86-win64, and this time contempt 80 performed slightly better by 10% :?:
I ran 1000 games with Contempt = 85 (using latest dev. version and other optimized settings, one thread, 2' + 1") against Gaviota-0.86-win64, and got the best result yet (-4 elo, compared with -10 elo for Contempt = 80 with same other settings). I'm using the ChrisW knight odds book to get the needed variety. Are you also doing that, or if not what are you doing to avoid getting the same openings game after game? Also, when you say 10% better, do you mean 10 percentage points better? That would be an enormous swing, 70 elo, totally beyond anything plausible for a tiny change to Contempt.
Oh Boy I did NOT checked how many repeated games I got out of the 1000, but Now we are in the right track having the best Contempt, and with your next upgraded version of Komodo and to only play 2 games with b1 Knight Missing and 4 games with the g1, I believe that a 2510 rated GMs will have a hard time against Komodo Dragon xxx.x. Another thing that can be done is to take all the losing opening out of ChristW knight odds book and only leave the opening leading to a win. You already have played enough games to be able to filter all the losing Knight odds openings of ChrisW knight odds book against Gaviota, and to keep only the openings that lead to a win :roll:

The ChrisW book is for engine testing and has no relation to my book used for playing humans.
I thought that you used the ChrisW book when Komodo played Versus Chris W and he was making a move per day :roll: :lol: :roll:
I used no book for that game. My book doesn’t even cover 1...Nf6 at knight odds.
I suppose that by the next GM Knight odds challenge against Komodo Dragon, it should be ready to challenge at least a 2525 rated players after you have chosen the best Opening that lead to a win :roll:
All openings end in dead lost positions for White at knight odds with proper play by Black. All we can do with the book is to aim for positions that are harder to convert than others.
And all openings will end in dead lost positions for White against Carlsen at f2 pawn plus another pawn missing in Rapid time control of 15'+10" but there are certain opening that are harder for Carlsen or MVL or Caruana to convert than others. :roll:
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Re: Komodo Dragon Vs. GM Perelshteyn Where is the Link ?

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lkaufman wrote: Sun Nov 14, 2021 5:40 pm
Chessqueen wrote: Sun Nov 14, 2021 5:10 pm
lkaufman wrote: Sun Nov 14, 2021 3:06 am
Chessqueen wrote: Sun Nov 14, 2021 2:42 am
lkaufman wrote: Sun Nov 14, 2021 1:20 am
Chessqueen wrote: Sat Nov 13, 2021 10:43 pm
lkaufman wrote: Sat Nov 13, 2021 10:21 pm
Chessqueen wrote: Sat Nov 13, 2021 9:24 pm
Chessqueen wrote: Sat Nov 13, 2021 5:35 am I already finished testing 1000 games with each contempt = 80 and 85 against Gaviota-0.86-win64, and contempt 85 is only slightly better by 2% :roll:
I decided to run another pair of 1000 games with each contempt = 80 and 85 against Gaviota-0.86-win64, and this time contempt 80 performed slightly better by 10% :?:
I ran 1000 games with Contempt = 85 (using latest dev. version and other optimized settings, one thread, 2' + 1") against Gaviota-0.86-win64, and got the best result yet (-4 elo, compared with -10 elo for Contempt = 80 with same other settings). I'm using the ChrisW knight odds book to get the needed variety. Are you also doing that, or if not what are you doing to avoid getting the same openings game after game? Also, when you say 10% better, do you mean 10 percentage points better? That would be an enormous swing, 70 elo, totally beyond anything plausible for a tiny change to Contempt.
Oh Boy I did NOT checked how many repeated games I got out of the 1000, but Now we are in the right track having the best Contempt, and with your next upgraded version of Komodo and to only play 2 games with b1 Knight Missing and 4 games with the g1, I believe that a 2510 rated GMs will have a hard time against Komodo Dragon xxx.x. Another thing that can be done is to take all the losing opening out of ChristW knight odds book and only leave the opening leading to a win. You already have played enough games to be able to filter all the losing Knight odds openings of ChrisW knight odds book against Gaviota, and to keep only the openings that lead to a win :roll:

The ChrisW book is for engine testing and has no relation to my book used for playing humans.
I thought that you used the ChrisW book when Komodo played Versus Chris W and he was making a move per day :roll: :lol: :roll:
I used no book for that game. My book doesn’t even cover 1...Nf6 at knight odds.
I suppose that by the next GM Knight odds challenge against Komodo Dragon, it should be ready to challenge at least a 2525 rated players after you have chosen the best Opening that lead to a win :roll:
All openings end in dead lost positions for White at knight odds with proper play by Black. All we can do with the book is to aim for positions that are harder to convert than others.
So the best that we can hope for is that Komodo Dragon can at least win 2 games out of 6 and draw at least 2 games versus a 2550 rated players in 5 months from now.