Topalov vs Anand Gmae 8

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Uri Blass wrote:It is enough if it is a draw for anand.

It does not need to be a draw for everyone.
I believe that anand calculated and found that he is sure that it is a draw
and I know that you cannot trust evaluation of engines in opposite color bishop endgames..
Put 40. Kg5, leave it for couple of hours with your strongest endgame engine and than tell me what you think.
Unfortunately for Topalov he didn't see it...
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[d]8/1p3k1p/p2Pp1p1/Pb4K1/3B3P/5P2/1P4P1/8 b - - 0 42
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How can you win this game?
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menniepals wrote:How can you win this game?
With a little help from my opponent of course! :lol:
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Re: Topalov vs Anand Gmae 8

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Sven Schüle wrote:I invite you to come back to that discussion after you have learned more about this type of chess endgames, and after you have also realized why current engines evaluate it as +1.XX.
Again your usual, I'm the smartest, you know shit argument...blah. I leave you to it...
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Re: Topalov vs Anand Gmae 8

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AdminX wrote:[d]8/1p3k1p/p2Pp1p1/Pb6/3B1K1P/5P2/1P4P1/8 w - - 0 42
Pardon, but cannot the white king force entry to f6?
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Dayffd wrote:
AdminX wrote:[d]8/1p3k1p/p2Pp1p1/Pb6/3B1K1P/5P2/1P4P1/8 w - - 0 42
Pardon, but cannot the white king force entry to f6?
You cannot force a win in this position. Save a mistake from your opponent.
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AdminX wrote:[d]8/1p3k1p/p2Pp1p1/Pb6/3B1K1P/5P2/1P4P1/8 w - - 0 42
I black goes to Kh6 - h5 forcing gxh5 Kxh5, then Kh6 + g --> g6/ hxg6 Kxg6 white wins if at that point black cannot play Kf8 (for instance, the bishop is in c5). Blacks needs to be very careful about this, but it may be able to draw forcing the B out of c5, with Kg7 (after Kxh5) Bd4+ Kf7 /Kh6 Bd3. If at that point, after trading pawns in h5, black can defend h7 with the bishop (Bd3) and black can take the King to f8-e8 it is an automatic draw. I think it is a draw but not yet.

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[d]6k1/1p5p/p1bPp1pK/P6P/3B4/5P2/1P4P1/8 b - - 0 44
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Dayffd wrote:
AdminX wrote:[d]8/1p3k1p/p2Pp1p1/Pb6/3B1K1P/5P2/1P4P1/8 w - - 0 42
Pardon, but cannot the white king force entry to f6?
No, black will only play Kf7-g8 when white plays Kg5-h6, and until then, black plays waiting moves with the bishop that do not allow white to promote his d-pawn.

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