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								by Henk   »  Thu Dec 01, 2016 3:29 pm 
			
			
			
			
			
			whereagles wrote: Henk wrote: Karjakin said in Press Conference that he was not in good shape last day. 
Funny.. against stockfish im always in bad shape
At least it is inefficient to think long. Why make blunders after move 35 if you can make them after move 14 ?  
Also one should think mostly only in opponents time unless opponent is a speed chess champion.
 
			
			
									
						
										
						 
		 
				
		
		 
	 
				
		
		
			
				
																			
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								by Sean Evans   »  Thu Dec 01, 2016 7:56 pm 
			
			
			
			
			
			The  short time control games were more interesting and exciting than the long time control games 
 
They should just play Rapid 30 10 games for the WCC 2017.
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								by michiguel   »  Thu Dec 01, 2016 9:13 pm 
			
			
			
			
			
			whereagles wrote: michiguel wrote: 
 
But the beauty is that MC saw the whole thing before reaching this position.
Not sure he saw "the whole thing", as in.. the mate-in-12 or so if black plays Bf8 instead of Kh7 
Of course he calculated to the last move. IF Bf8 you play Rxf8+ followed by Rxf7+ Ke8 Rf8+ with an easy mate pattern afterwards.
Carlsen must have seen the whole sequence when he played Rc1.
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								by michiguel   »  Thu Dec 01, 2016 9:15 pm 
			
			
			
			
			
			Dirt wrote: michiguel wrote: But the beauty is that MC saw the whole thing before reaching this position. There were other "safe" alternatives (a draw would have been enough), but he went for the jugular with a couple of minutes on the clock.
So, are we just going to ignore that he went from a tablebase win to a draw in the second game?
Yes, because I did not even watch that game 
 
Miguel
(Personally, I had no clue how to do it.  But, I'm not such a good player.)
 
			
			
									
						
										
						 
		 
				
		
		 
	 
				
		
		
			
				
																			
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								by whereagles   »  Fri Dec 02, 2016 2:21 am 
			
			
			
			
			
			michiguel wrote: Carlsen must have seen the whole sequence when he played Rc1.
The queen sac he definitely saw. The follow up to Bf8 im willing to bet he trusted his instincts eheh
 
			
			
									
						
										
						 
		 
				
		
		 
	 
				
		
		
			
				
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								by Look   »  Fri Dec 02, 2016 8:07 am 
			
			
			
			
			
			michiguel wrote: AdminX wrote: VIDEO 
WOW.
I just watched the end live. What a way to finish the match. Brilliant execution by Magnus.
Miguel
I watched the rapids tiebreaks, games were very interesting.
 
			
			
									
						
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								by gerold   »  Fri Dec 02, 2016 5:33 pm 
			
			
			
			
			
			Look wrote: michiguel wrote: AdminX wrote: VIDEO 
WOW.
I just watched the end live. What a way to finish the match. Brilliant execution by Magnus.
Miguel
I watched the rapids tiebreaks, games were very interesting.
I agree the last games were the most exciting. Very good.
 
			
			
									
						
										
						 
		 
				
		
		 
	 
				
		
		
			
				
																			
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								by Henk   »  Sat Dec 03, 2016 12:24 pm 
			
			
			
			
			
			Karjakin lost because no communist party supporting the team. 
 
It's over. Karpov, Kasparov were the last.
			
			
									
						
										
						 
		 
				
		
		 
	 
				
		
		
			
				
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								by AdminX   »  Sat Dec 03, 2016 1:30 pm 
			
			
			
			
			
			Henk wrote: Karjakin lost because no communist party supporting the team. 
 
It's over. Karpov, Kasparov were the last.
I think he lost more so because he was trying to hold (Carlson), more than he was trying to win. By hold, I mean hold him to a draw of course.
 
			
			
									
						
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								by Henk   »  Sat Dec 03, 2016 1:56 pm 
			
			
			
			
			
			I mean relatively less money available, worse training, worse selection.