FCP Tourney-2021, 41.000x 45min. games on i9-10900k, 13xNN, now still running!

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Re: FCP Tourney-2021, 41.000x 45min. games on i9-10900k, 13xNN, now still running!

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Hi there,

most interesting for myself is what do the hardest opponents from Wasp 4.50.

Klaus helps here a bit with a new graphic ...

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Winter 0.9 is very danger for Wasp 4.5 and is playing a great round 7.
The situation around computer chess is often not easy if the others like it to make me angry.

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Re: FCP Tourney-2021, 41.000x 45min. games on i9-10900k, 13xNN, now still running!

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Hi there,

the results from round 7 out of 50 are online.
A good round for Wasp 4.5.

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Re: FCP Tourney-2021, 41.000x 45min. games on i9-10900k, 13xNN, now still running!

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I am really surprised, that Lc0 0.26.3 NN CPU x64 (3095) is playing so good! Currently at position 11/41.
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Re: FCP Tourney-2021, 41.000x 45min. games on i9-10900k, 13xNN, now still running!

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Hi Jouni,

oh yes, for the CPU version very strong results!!!

The bad "short-game" stats we can await from the GPU version also.
Many tactic holes with more pieces on board (if I compare to Stockfish or Dragon), but with lesser pieces on board stats are stronger and stronger.
Maybe in endgames same strength as Dragon or a bit stronger.

What I never understand is ...
Humans like to see aggressive chess with many pieces on board.
Here Lc0 is playing very boring chess.
Often I can not understand what so many others "like" to see ... offside from the reality.

Best and have fun with the tourney!
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Re: FCP Tourney-2021, 41.000x 45min. games on i9-10900k, 13xNN, now still running!

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Statistics to short won / draw games:
After round 07 out of 50 (final results) = 5.740 games per engine

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  361 of 05.740 = 6,290% : Fast won/lost games below 60 moves (with mate ended)
  180 of 05.740 = 3,136% : Fast draw games below 40 moves

                                  won59 lost59 draw39        won59w won59b lost59w lost59b
01. Stockfish 110121 NN BMI2 x64     40      0      2            25     15       0       0
02. Dragon by Komodo NN AVX2 x64     32      0      2            27      5       0       0
03. SlowChess 2.5 NN AVX2 x64        26      1      5            18      8       0       1
04. Pedone 3.0 NN BMI2 x64           19      3     12            14      5       1       2
05. Fizbo 2.0 BMI2 x64               18      2     13            12      6       1       1
06. Booot POPCNT 6.4 x64             17      1     12            14      3       0       1
07. Defenchess 2.3 dev BMI2 x64      17      2      9            12      5       0       2
08. Wasp 4.50 Modern x64             13      2     13             9      4       0       2
09. RubiChess 1.9 NN BMI2 x64        13      2     14             9      4       0       2
10. Nemorino 6.04 NN PEXT x64        12      3      4             8      4       0       3
11. Seer 1.2.1 NN Skylake x64        11     10     13            10      1       1       9
12. Xiphos 0.6 BMI2 x64              10      1      9             7      3       0       1
13. Laser 1.7 BMI2 x64               10      4      7             5      5       2       2
14. Ethereal 12.75 PEXT x64           9      0      8             6      3       0       0
15. Schooner 2.2 XB SSE x64           9      2     12             3      6       0       2
16. Igel 2.9.0 NN BMI2 x64            9      3      9             6      3       1       2
17. Andscacs 0.95.123 x64             8      3     15             5      3       0       3
18. Marvin 5.0.0 NN AVX2 x64          8      6      6             5      3       4       2
19. Fritz 17 (Ginkgo) x64             7      6      4             5      2       1       5
20. GullChess 3.0 Sy BMI2 x64         6     12      7             5      1       5       7
21. Nirvanachess 2.5 POPCNT x64       5     10      8             4      1       2       8
22. iCE 4.0 v853 Modern x64           5     11     10             5      0       4       7
23. Combusken 1.4.0 AMD x64           5     15     11             4      1       4      11
24. Winter 0.9 NN BMI2 x64            5     19      8             2      3       5      14
25. Vajolet2 2.8 BMI2 x64             4      6      5             3      1       3       3
26. rofChade 2.3 BMI2 x64             4      8      8             3      1       1       7
27. Arasan 22.2 BMI2 x64              4     10     11             3      1       3       7
28. Orion 0.8 NN FMA x64              4     15     10             4      0       5      10
29. Demolito 2020-12-24 PEXT x64      3      4      0             1      2       1       3
30. Shredder 13 POPCNT x64            3      5     10             3      0       2       3
31. Chiron 4 x64                      3      6      6             1      2       3       3
32. Texel 1.08a13 BMI2 x64            3      9      6             2      1       1       8
33. Lc0 0.26.3 NN CPU x64             3     12     12             2      1       3       9
34. Koivisto 4.19 AVX x64             3     14      4             2      1       4      10
35. chess22k 1.14 JAVA x64            3     15      7             2      1       4      11
36. Critter 1.6a x64                  3     18      7             3      0       7      11
37. Halogen 9 NN PEXT x64             2     15     10             2      0       8       7
38. Hannibal 1.7 x64                  2     22     16             1      1       2      20
39. Topple 0.8.0 Modern x64           2     33      8             2      0      11      22
40. pirarucu 3.3.5 JAVA x64           1     38     12             1      0      14      24
41. Protector 1.9.0 x64               0     13     15             0      0       4       9

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  107 of 05.740 = 1,865% : Fast won/lost games below 50 moves (with mate ended)
   64 of 05.740 = 1,115% : Fast draw games below 30 moves

                                  won49 lost49 draw29        won49w won49b lost49w lost49b
01. Stockfish 110121 NN BMI2 x64     10      0      1             4      6       0       0
02. Dragon by Komodo NN AVX2 x64      9      0      2             8      1       0       0
03. SlowChess 2.5 NN AVX2 x64         8      0      0             5      3       0       0
04. Pedone 3.0 NN BMI2 x64            6      0      4             3      3       0       0
05. Booot 6.4 POPCNT x64              6      1      4             4      2       0       1
06. Defenchess 2.3 dev BMI2 x64       5      0      1             5      0       0       0
07. Igel 2.9.0 NN BMI2 x64            5      1      3             4      1       1       0
08. Seer 1.2.1 NN Skylake x64         5      5      4             4      1       1       4
09. Wasp 4.50 Modern x64              4      0      2             2      2       0       0
10. Schooner 2.2 XB SSE x64           4      0      6             1      3       0       0
10. Andscacs 0.95.123 x64             4      0      6             3      1       0       0
12. Xiphos 0.6 BMI2 x64               3      0      2             2      1       0       0
13. Marvin 5.0.0 NN AVX2 x64          3      1      3             2      1       1       0
14. Nirvanachess 2.5 POPCNT x64       3      3      4             3      0       0       3
15. Ethereal 12.75 PEXT x64           2      0      3             2      0       0       0
16. RubiChess 1.9 NN BMI2 x64         2      0      4             1      1       0       0
17. Vajolet2 2.8 BMI2 x64             2      2      2             2      0       1       1
18. Orion 0.8 NN FMA x64              2      2      4             2      0       0       2
19. Winter 0.9 NN BMI2 x64            2      4      2             1      1       2       2
20. Koivisto 4.19 AVX x64             2      5      2             1      1       1       4
21. GullChess 3.0 Sy BMI2 x64         2      5      4             1      1       3       2
21. Critter 1.6a x64                  2      5      4             2      0       3       2
23. iCE 4.0 v853 Modern x64           2      5      5             2      0       2       3
24. Combusken 1.4.0 AMD x64           2      6      4             2      0       2       4
25. Topple 0.8.0 Modern x64           2     14      4             2      0       5       9
26. Fritz 17 (Ginkgo) x64             1      1      1             1      0       0       1
27. Chiron 4 x64                      1      1      2             1      0       0       1
28. Arasan 22.2 BMI2 x64              1      1      4             1      0       0       1
28. Laser 1.7 BMI2 x64                1      1      4             0      1       0       1
30. Fizbo 2.0 BMI2 x64                1      1      7             1      0       1       0
31. Nemorino 6.04 NN PEXT x64         1      2      2             0      1       0       2
32. Texel 1.08a13 BMI2 x64            1      3      2             1      0       0       3
32. Halogen 9 NN PEXT x64             1      3      2             1      0       1       2
34. rofChade 2.3 BMI2 x64             1      4      3             0      1       0       4
35. Lc0 0.26.3 NN CPU x64             1      6      0             0      1       2       4
36. Shredder 13 POPCNT x64            0      0      2             0      0       0       0
37. Protector 1.9.0 x64               0      1      6             0      0       0       1
38. chess22k 1.14 JAVA x64            0      2      1             0      0       0       2
39. Demolito 2020-12-24 PEXT x64      0      3      0             0      0       1       2
40. Hannibal 1.7 x64                  0      5      5             0      0       0       5
41. pirarucu 3.3.5 JAVA x64           0     14      7             0      0       7       7
Better to see with the web-presention from Klaus Wlotzka.
Available on my start page or in the detail page to the tournament.

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Re: FCP Tourney-2021, 41.000x 45min. games on i9-10900k, 13xNN, now still running!

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Hi there,

the results from round 8 out of 50 are online.

Klaus is working on a new Excel site (Engine characteristics).
I think the new version from him with the current results from round 8 out of 50 will be in the next 2-3 hours online.

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Re: FCP Tourney-2021, 41.000x 45min. games on i9-10900k, 13xNN, now still running!

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Hi there,

great is the ranking-tool by Klaus.

Again, have a look here:
http://www.amateurschach.de/t2021/commo ... phic-5.jpg

I disable the engines:
Stockfish and Dragon by Komodo.

Now 39 from 41 engines are in the list.
To see are the Elo jumpings for 39 engines without the results vs. Stockfish and Dragon by Komodo.
Most happy about it are Critter and Marvin (0 from 16 points vs. Stockfish and Dragon by Komodo for an example).

Really a very nice idea!!

Have fun with FCP Tourney-2021 ...

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Re: FCP Tourney-2021, 41.000x 45min. games on i9-10900k, 13xNN, now still running!

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Hi there,

the hardest 5 opponents ...
Statistic is improved also ...

Logical, I am looking for Wasp and the hardest opponents ...
Why, I am a Wasp fan-boy!

https://www.amateurschach.de/t2021/comm ... phic-6.jpg

:-)

At the moment the World of TOP-engines is fully OK for me.
I am quite sure that with time Andscacs will go back to place 19.

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Re: FCP Tourney-2021, 41.000x 45min. games on i9-10900k, 13xNN, now still running!

Post by Frank Quisinsky »

Hi there,

what we can do if ...
The day is short and the night is long!

The current excel files (Klaus is often working daily on it) can be found here (download link will be not change):
http://www.amateurschach.de/klaus/fcp-t ... lotzka.zip

What I can say during Wasp and the others are fighting is?!

Have a nice weekend!

Best
Frank

PS: You know that my English is really bad and the English from Klaus isn't better as my own.
I made some spelling correction in the excel files by Klaus during the last days!
We are very happy if an American can help us with English correction!
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Re: FCP Tourney-2021, 41.000x 45min. games on i9-10900k, 13xNN, now still running!

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Hi there,

the results from round 09 out of 50 are online.
In round 09 Wasp on place 13!!

Absolutely fantastic short-game stats from Wasp.
Not sure, but I believe never an engine with max. 3100 Elo plays such aggressive chess.

OK, 360 of 2.000 games played only.
A long tourney ...

Klaus Wlotzka made again very nice changes in the excel files.
Please have a look on the 6 graphics on my start page or load the Excel file from Klaus.

And ...
Spiderman (Wasp) won a game vs. Godzilla (SlowChess)

:-)

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