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Dr.Wael Deeb
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by Dr.Wael Deeb » Sun May 09, 2010 6:48 pm
Aser Huerga wrote: [d]8/p4k2/1p3p2/1n3P1K/6P1/4rN2/3R4/8 w - -
Engine: Shredder 12 UCI 32-bit (128 MB)
Stefan Meyer-Kahlen
17 0:47 -0.69 52.Nh4 Nc3 53.Rd7+ Re7 54.Rd8 a5 55.Ra8 Rd7 56.Ng6 Rd1 57.Ra7+ Ke8 58.Nf4 Ne4 59.Ne6 Rd7 60.Ra8+ Ke7 61.g5 fxg5 62.Nxg5 Nc5 63.Kg6 Rd6+ 64.Kg7
17 0:57 -1.51 52.Ng1 Rg3 53.Rd7+ Ke8 54.Rd1 Nc3 55.Re1+ Kf7 56.Kh4 Rd3 57.Re6 Rd2 58.Re3 Nd5 59.Ra3 a5 60.Nf3 Rc2 61.g5 fxg5+ 62.Kxg5
17 1:00 -2.20 52.g5 Rxf3 53.g6+ Ke7 54.g7 Rg3 55.Kh6 Nd6 56.Kh7 Kf7 57.g8Q+ Rxg8 58.Rxd6 Re8 59.Rc6 Re7 60.Rc8 Rd7 61.Ra8 Ke7
17 1:06 -2.37 52.Rf2 Nd4 53.Nh4 Rh3 54.g5 Rg3 55.g6+ Kg7 56.Rg2 Rxg2 57.Nxg2 Nxf5 58.Nf4 a5 59.Ne6+ Kg8
17 1:22 -3.28 52.Ng5+ fxg5 53.Kxg5 Nc3 54.Kf4 Re4+ 55.Kf3 a5 56.g5 b5 57.Rd8 Re7 58.Rh8 Ne4 59.Kf4 Nc5 60.g6+ Kf6 61.Rf8+ Kg7 62.Rb8
average search depth 17 half-moves after 1:21 min; evaluation -0.69 means black stands slighly better
I am not happy with the white position....it will collapse sooner than later....I hope Anand finds the strength within to hold the vicious attack which will take place on the queenside....
Dr.D
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by Dayffd » Sun May 09, 2010 6:48 pm
[quote="Aser Huerga"][d]8/p4k2/1p3p2/1n3P1K/6P1/4rN2/3R4/8 w - -
Engine: Shredder 12 UCI 32-bit (128 MB)
Stefan Meyer-Kahlen
How does white save the knight?
David S.
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by gerold » Sun May 09, 2010 6:50 pm
Dr.Wael Deeb wrote: Aser Huerga wrote: [d]8/p4k2/1p3p2/1n3P1K/6P1/4rN2/3R4/8 w - -
Engine: Shredder 12 UCI 32-bit (128 MB)
Stefan Meyer-Kahlen
17 0:47 -0.69 52.Nh4 Nc3 53.Rd7+ Re7 54.Rd8 a5 55.Ra8 Rd7 56.Ng6 Rd1 57.Ra7+ Ke8 58.Nf4 Ne4 59.Ne6 Rd7 60.Ra8+ Ke7 61.g5 fxg5 62.Nxg5 Nc5 63.Kg6 Rd6+ 64.Kg7
17 0:57 -1.51 52.Ng1 Rg3 53.Rd7+ Ke8 54.Rd1 Nc3 55.Re1+ Kf7 56.Kh4 Rd3 57.Re6 Rd2 58.Re3 Nd5 59.Ra3 a5 60.Nf3 Rc2 61.g5 fxg5+ 62.Kxg5
17 1:00 -2.20 52.g5 Rxf3 53.g6+ Ke7 54.g7 Rg3 55.Kh6 Nd6 56.Kh7 Kf7 57.g8Q+ Rxg8 58.Rxd6 Re8 59.Rc6 Re7 60.Rc8 Rd7 61.Ra8 Ke7
17 1:06 -2.37 52.Rf2 Nd4 53.Nh4 Rh3 54.g5 Rg3 55.g6+ Kg7 56.Rg2 Rxg2 57.Nxg2 Nxf5 58.Nf4 a5 59.Ne6+ Kg8
17 1:22 -3.28 52.Ng5+ fxg5 53.Kxg5 Nc3 54.Kf4 Re4+ 55.Kf3 a5 56.g5 b5 57.Rd8 Re7 58.Rh8 Ne4 59.Kf4 Nc5 60.g6+ Kf6 61.Rf8+ Kg7 62.Rb8
average search depth 17 half-moves after 1:21 min; evaluation -0.69 means black stands slighly better
I am not happy with the white position....it will collapse sooner than later....I hope Anand finds the strength within to hold the vicious attack which will take place on the queenside....
Dr.D
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game. Black should have pushed the a pawn when he had
the chance.
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by Edmund » Sun May 09, 2010 6:50 pm
Aser Huerga wrote: 8/p4k2/1p3p2/5P1K/6PN/2n1r3/3R4/8 w - -
Engine: Shredder 12 UCI 32-bit (128 MB)
Stefan Meyer-Kahlen
18 1:43 -0.74 53.Rd7+ Re7 54.Rd3 Ne4 55.Ng6 Nc5 56.Ra3 Rc7 57.Re3 Kg7 58.Nf4 a5 59.g5 fxg5 60.Kxg5 Kf7 61.Ne6 Nxe6+ 62.Rxe6 b5 63.Rb6
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average search depth 18 half-moves after 2:23 min; evaluation -0.74 means black stands slighly better
Following this pv also leads to a draw
Aser Huerga
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by Aser Huerga » Sun May 09, 2010 6:51 pm
Dayffd wrote:
How does white save the knight?
Td7+
Dayffd
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by Dayffd » Sun May 09, 2010 6:52 pm
Dayffd wrote: Aser Huerga wrote: [d]8/p4k2/1p3p2/1n3P1K/6P1/4rN2/3R4/8 w - -
Engine: Shredder 12 UCI 32-bit (128 MB)
Stefan Meyer-Kahlen
How does white save the knight?
Never mind - Nh4, but white's position looks somewhat suspect, I think.
David S.
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by Aser Huerga » Sun May 09, 2010 6:53 pm
Edmund wrote: Aser Huerga wrote: 8/p4k2/1p3p2/5P1K/6PN/2n1r3/3R4/8 w - -
Engine: Shredder 12 UCI 32-bit (128 MB)
Stefan Meyer-Kahlen
18 1:43 -0.74 53.Rd7+ Re7 54.Rd3 Ne4 55.Ng6 Nc5 56.Ra3 Rc7 57.Re3 Kg7 58.Nf4 a5 59.g5 fxg5 60.Kxg5 Kf7 61.Ne6 Nxe6+ 62.Rxe6 b5 63.Rb6
...
average search depth 18 half-moves after 2:23 min; evaluation -0.74 means black stands slighly better
Following this pv also leads to a draw
I doubt this position in human hands will ends in a draw ... but is my guess only.
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by AdminX » Sun May 09, 2010 6:55 pm
[d]8/p3rk2/1p3p2/5P1K/6PN/2nR4/8/8 b - - 0 54
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Aser Huerga
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by Aser Huerga » Sun May 09, 2010 6:56 pm
[d]8/p3rk2/1p3p2/5P1K/4n1PN/3R4/8/8 w - -
Engine: Shredder 12 UCI 32-bit (128 MB)
Stefan Meyer-Kahlen
18 1:03 -0.35 55.Ng6 Nc5 56.Nxe7
18 1:04 -1.08 55.Rd8 Ng3+ 56.Kh6 Re2 57.Rd7+ Ke8 58.Rd3 Ne4 59.Kg7
17 0:55 -1.08 55.Rd1 Ng3+ 56.Kh6 Re2 57.Rd7+ Ke8 58.Rd3 Ne4 59.Kg7
17 0:57 -1.08 55.Rd4 Nc5 56.Rd6 Ne4 57.Rd8 Ng3+ 58.Kh6 Re2 59.Rd7+ Ke8 60.Rd3 Ne4 61.Kg7
17 1:00 -1.30 55.Nf3 Nc5 56.Ra3 a5 57.g5 fxg5 58.Kxg5 a4 59.Nd4 Re5 60.Ra1 Rd5 61.Nc6 b5 62.Re1 Rd6 63.Nb4 a3
average search depth 18 half-moves after 1:04 min; evaluation -0.35 means the position is even
Dayffd
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by Dayffd » Sun May 09, 2010 6:57 pm
Aser Huerga wrote: Dayffd wrote:
How does white save the knight?
Td7+
Which would be followed by ...Ke8 and that looks rather promising for black. OTOH, Nh4 looks to save the knight, but now black's Q-side pawns can start rolling - I think.
David S.