Steve B wrote:if you really want the sweet taste of revenge
lets see a game where YOU are playing Le Citrine
Alas, the Citrine will be so busy with automated competition that it won't have time to battle with me.
Selective Search rates Le Citrine at 2048
this is a rating based upon at least 1 minute per move but most of the games are 2 minutes per move
if you will be playing at this time control it will be interesting to see how the rating holds up
would be good idea if you could provide the link to the rating when its set up and playing
Steve
Steve B wrote:Selective Search rates Le Citrine at 2048
this is a rating based upon at least 1 minute per move but most of the games are 2 minutes per move
if you will be playing at this time control it will be interesting to see how the rating holds up
would be good idea if you could provide the link to the rating when its set up and playing
This might take some time; several interfacing issues remain to be resolved. Also, I haven't yet heard from FICS concerning an account for the Citrine.
I don't think the Citrine could manage much more than five percent against Symbolic. However, the Citrine will be much closer matched against the emergent CIL Toolkit. But this will take time too.
Looking at the specifications for the Citrine's CPU (H8/300), it becomes clear that the CPU's designer was inspired by the pdp11 basic register and instruction model. Both machines have eight 16 bit general purpose registers, both have reserved a register for a stack pointer, both have fairly RISC-ish instruction sets, etc. The pdp11 has virtual memory, a floating point option, and several other additions over the H8/300; the H8/300 can better handle splitting a 16 bit register into two general purpose single byte registers.
CRoberson wrote:I've read a review or two and I rather hot to buy one.
Who has one that can tell me more.
My primary use will be at a chess club connected to my laptop.
I'll be running weak engines for beginners.
It seems quite irrational to me that one would spend on a dedicated computer only to connect it to a laptop. You can get much much stronger engines for much much cheaper, if you want to work on a laptop. Not only stronger, if that's not what you want, (you can always downgrade their strength) but feature filled too.
The old Novag Super VIP had a six conductor cable with five wires connected and I'll guess that the Citrine cabling is the same, although with a transfer speed six times faster at 57,600 bps.
There is a labeling difference among Citrine models. Apparently, earlier models had the logo "Universal Chess Board"; this is missing from the later version(s). The presence or absence of this may be indicative of other differences.
S.Taylor wrote:It seems quite irrational to me that one would spend on a dedicated computer only to connect it to a laptop.
The point is that for some there is no real substitute for using a physical set and board. The Citrine represents a reasonable compromise between size and cost. It's program is strong enough to wallop most tournament players and nearly all informal chessplayers. While it does not have piece recognition, at least it doesn't require an unnatural square tapping.
CRoberson wrote:I've read a review or two and I rather hot to buy one.
Who has one that can tell me more.
My primary use will be at a chess club connected to my laptop.
I'll be running weak engines for beginners.
It seems quite irrational to me that one would spend on a dedicated computer only to connect it to a laptop. You can get much much stronger engines for much much cheaper, if you want to work on a laptop. Not only stronger, if that's not what you want, (you can always downgrade their strength) but feature filled too.
The answer is in the second paragraph of my post that you quoted.
S.Taylor wrote:It seems quite irrational to me that one would spend on a dedicated computer only to connect it to a laptop.
The point is that for some there is no real substitute for using a physical set and board. .
I indeed agree that whatever stimulates a person to using his brain better is a worthwhile effort.
Its a shame if there is no hardware than can translate normal software to a physical board.
sje wrote:
There is a labeling difference among Citrine models. Apparently, earlier models had the logo "Universal Chess Board"; this is missing from the later version(s). The presence or absence of this may be indicative of other differences.
in 2006 the first early production runs of the Citrine were released in Europe
some of these were released on old Novag Universal Chess boards which apparently they still had left over from unsold stock
they never bothered to remove the old Universal labeling
this early version was not released here in the US
they were bug filled with even opening book errors
the first Citrnes released here (also 2006)had almost all bugs removed and the labeling removed
Steve
S.Taylor wrote:It seems quite irrational to me that one would spend on a dedicated computer only to connect it to a laptop.
The point is that for some there is no real substitute for using a physical set and board. The Citrine represents a reasonable compromise between size and cost. It's program is strong enough to wallop most tournament players and nearly all informal chessplayers. While it does not have piece recognition, at least it doesn't require an unnatural square tapping.
i guess the most attractive thing about the Citrine is that it is made from wood with wooden pieces
the first new wooden auto-sensory to be released in 10 years by any manufacturer
the only other wooden board available today is the Mephisto Exclusive board with the Senator module which sells for more then twice the price of the Citrine and only provides a bump in the Elo of about 50-60 points
Steve
