Would you like a new subforum "Clones"?

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Would you like a new subforum "Clones, GPL, Copyright..."?

Poll ended at Thu Jul 17, 2008 12:12 pm

YES
16
31%
NO
32
63%
abstain
3
6%
 
Total votes: 51

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Mike S.
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Would you like a new subforum "Clones"?

Post by Mike S. »

Take a look how many of the active threads are about the topics

:arrow: Clones, GPL, Copyright, etc.

:idea: Suggestion: a new subforum for these threads. This will be an improvement for both the clone discussion lovers and for those who prefer general discussions about computer chess.

P.S. Please keep the poll here, to get representative democratic participation. The Help and Suggestions forum has much less traffic.
Regards, Mike
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Re: Would you like a new subforum "Clones"?

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Yes Mike, I know I would ...
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Re: Would you like a new subforum "Clones"?

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So, sometimes there's a hot topic... :?:

And, of course, you're helping to keep it hot! :)

Personally, I like it when things get heated up for a bit...

Actually, perhaps we should get rid of the help and suggestions forum...Poll please!!
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Re: Would you like a new subforum "Clones"?

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James Constance wrote:So, sometimes there's a hot topic... :?:

And, of course, you're helping to keep it hot! :)

Personally, I like it when things get heated up for a bit...

Actually, perhaps we should get rid of the help and suggestions forum...Poll please!!
I agree James. I think it would be good to get rid of help and suggestions. Also i think would be nice just to have two,
CCC and CTF. :)

Gerold.
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Re: Would you like a new subforum "Clones"?

Post by Tony Thomas »

No thanks..
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Re: Would you like a new subforum "Clones"?

Post by chrisw »

It would appear, if anyone falsely accused decided to take legal action, that the site publishers and moderators had made a special forum for the encouraging of accusations of this nature.

The situation for moderators and the site owner is risky enough at the moment without this on top.

Instead I encourage members to tone down any accusatory language used in discussing this issue and to think very carefully before making public statements.

Mike S. wrote:Take a look how many of the active threads are about the topics

:arrow: Clones, GPL, Copyright, etc.

:idea: Suggestion: a new subforum for these threads. This will be an improvement for both the clone discussion lovers and for those who prefer general discussions about computer chess.

P.S. Please keep the poll here, to get representative democratic participation. The Help and Suggestions forum has much less traffic.
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Re: Would you like a new subforum "Clones"?

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Tony Thomas wrote:No thanks..
I second that buddy....
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Re: Would you like a new subforum "Clones"?

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chrisw wrote:It would appear, if anyone falsely accused decided to take legal action, that the site publishers and moderators had made a special forum for the encouraging of accusations of this nature.
This is an important point, and such an impression would have to be avoided. Explicit clone accusations without evidence on a certain quality level should not be allowed anyway (just reporting similarities is something much different). Also, I think such a subforum should be visible for logged-in members only, like the CTF.

What I hope that it achieves is, that the general forum is not dominated by the various clone related threads so often (keyword Strelka). This is really such a specific and usually annoying matter, that it is like poison for the general forum. That's why I made this proposal.
Regards, Mike
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Re: Would you like a new subforum "Clones"?

Post by Matthias Gemuh »

Dr.Wael Deeb wrote:
Tony Thomas wrote:No thanks..
I second that buddy....

It would help cloners a lot when their evil deeds are discussed only by 2 or 3 persons in a hidden subforum :cry: .
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Re: Would you like a new subforum "Clones"?

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Mike S. wrote:
chrisw wrote:It would appear, if anyone falsely accused decided to take legal action, that the site publishers and moderators had made a special forum for the encouraging of accusations of this nature.
This is an important point, and such an impression would have to be avoided. Explicit clone accusations without evidence on a certain quality level should not be allowed anyway (just reporting similarities is something much different). Also, I think such a subforum should be visible for logged-in members only, like the CTF.

What I hope that it achieves is, that the general forum is not dominated by the various clone related threads so often (keyword Strelka). This is really such a specific and usually annoying matter, that it is like poison for the general forum. That's why I made this proposal.
"Explicit clone accusations without evidence on a certain quality level should not be allowed anyway"

I agree. I am only one mod here, but I personally I would delete accusations that were made without very strong supporting evidence.

Saying "I found this string and that string similar" is more or less ok, but "XYZ is a clone" or "Author ABC is a pirate or fraud" minus extremely strong support data is not ok.