this is an open apology to the chess engine community and to Olivier Deville
my addition of code from fruit/toga was a gross error in judgement on my part
i am deeply sorry, and i seriously regret my decisions and actions.
since the controversy unfolded, i have taken the following steps:
1. i have issued refunds
2. i immediately notified Olivier and withdrew from the tournament
3. i issued an apology to thomas/fabien
4. i changed the website
5. i have answered questions as honestly as i can
I am likely to release v 1.3 as open-source.
sincerely,
norman schmidt
open apology to the chess engine community
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kranium
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Tony Thomas
Re: open apology to the chess engine community
Great job Norm, I think it does takes a real man to swallow his pride and admit his mistakes.
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gerold
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Re: open apology to the chess engine community
Thanks Norman. Hope you can make some improvments inkranium wrote:this is an open apology to the chess engine community and to Olivier Deville
my addition of code from fruit/toga was a gross error in judgement on my part
i am deeply sorry, and i seriously regret my decisions and actions.
since the controversy unfolded, i have taken the following steps:
1. i have issued refunds
2. i immediately notified Olivier and withdrew from the tournament
3. i issued an apology to thomas/fabien
4. i changed the website
5. i have answered questions as honestly as i can
I am likely to release v 1.3 as open-source.
sincerely,
norman schmidt
your program.
Good luck,
Gerold.
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slobo
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Re: open apology to the chess engine community
Norman,kranium wrote:this is an open apology to the chess engine community and to Olivier Deville
my addition of code from fruit/toga was a gross error in judgement on my part
i am deeply sorry, and i seriously regret my decisions and actions.
since the controversy unfolded, i have taken the following steps:
1. i have issued refunds
2. i immediately notified Olivier and withdrew from the tournament
3. i issued an apology to thomas/fabien
4. i changed the website
5. i have answered questions as honestly as i can
I am likely to release v 1.3 as open-source.
sincerely,
norman schmidt
your addition of code from fruit/toga would not be any error if you had contacted the author of Fruit. Only together with him you could have started a similar job.
Other solution would have been: working hard for a year or two on this program, turn it better than Rybka (or at least at the same level), and only then present it to our community. In this case, almost no one would consider you as a "cloner". You should know that there are "sins" that are "allowed" to the winners in our society.
"Well, I´m just a soul whose intentions are good,
Oh Lord, please don´t let me be misunderstood."
Oh Lord, please don´t let me be misunderstood."
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Olivier Deville
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Re: open apology to the chess engine community
Thanks Norm
I am certain you are able to make a strong engine by yourself.
Releasing next Xyclops as open-source is appropriate. It would be great to remove all foreign code, so that the merits will be yours and yours only.
Good luck.
Olivier
I am certain you are able to make a strong engine by yourself.
Releasing next Xyclops as open-source is appropriate. It would be great to remove all foreign code, so that the merits will be yours and yours only.
Good luck.
Olivier
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Dr.Wael Deeb
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Re: open apology to the chess engine community
A great approach Norm and good luck with your new release 
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Re: open apology to the chess engine community
kranium wrote:this is an open apology to the chess engine community and to Olivier Deville
my addition of code from fruit/toga was a gross error in judgement on my part
i am deeply sorry, and i seriously regret my decisions and actions.
since the controversy unfolded, i have taken the following steps:
1. i have issued refunds
2. i immediately notified Olivier and withdrew from the tournament
3. i issued an apology to thomas/fabien
4. i changed the website
5. i have answered questions as honestly as i can
I am likely to release v 1.3 as open-source.
sincerely,
norman schmidt
Well done by thus apologizing.
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My engine was quite strong till I added knowledge to it.
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fern
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Re: open apology to the chess engine community
You got it cheap with a clever, fast confession. I hope you really feel sorry and NOT deviously exhilarated by the good tempered answers you got here.
Nobody is perfect regards
Fwernando
Nobody is perfect regards
Fwernando
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LJC
Re: open apology to the chess engine community
What engine are we talking about here? Obviously I missed it :.(
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LJC
Re: open apology to the chess engine community
Oh, I see, it's xyclOps?LJC wrote:What engine are we talking about here? Obviously I missed it :.(