Antichess is Alive. Rybka 3 has been killed. Man v Machine

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Antichess is Alive. Rybka 3 has been killed. Man v Machine

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:D :D :D :D :) :) :) :shock: :shock: :shock: :lol: :lol: :lol:


ANTICHESS IS ALIVE

MAN VERSUS MACHINE IS ALIVE

Rybka 3, the mosnter has been killed for an amateur.

Where there is a will there is a power

The monster has fell down

With best respect,

Pablo Ignacio Restrepo

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TITTLE: LERNING FOR YOU :D :D :D :D

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FROM. Father :D :D :D :D :D
TO. My Father
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[Event "Rated game, 3m + 0s"]
[Site "Engine Room"]
[Date "2008.08.24"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Father"]
[Black "Valheru"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "A03"]
[WhiteElo "2044"]
[BlackElo "2664"]
[Annotator "Restrepo,Pablo Ignacio"]
[PlyCount "309"]
[EventDate "2008.08.24"]
[WhiteTeam "Formula Reject: Rated 5m + 0s from Magicmuser"]
[BlackTeam "Formula Reject: Rated 5m + 0s from Magicmuser"]
[TimeControl "180"]

1. d4 {2} Nf6 {0} 2. e3 {B/0 0} g6 {3} 3. c3 {(Nf3) -0.15/13 0} Bg7 {8} 4. f4 {
(Nf3) -0.35/140} d5 {4} 5. Nf3 {-0.47/14 0} O-O {-0.47/14 4} 6. Bd3 {7} c5 {-0.
42/13 2} 7. O-O {9} Nc6 {-0.42/13 0} 8. Qe2 {(Nbd2) 1} Bg4 {-0.40/12 3} 9. g3 {
(Nbd2) 2} Qd6 {-0.73/11 8} 10. Re1 {(Nbd2) 1} a6 {-0.70/11 8} 11. Nbd2 {1} b5 {
-0.61/11 5} 12. Nf1 {(a3) 3} Ne4 {-0.86/9 3} 13. a3 {(N1d2) 2} h6 {-0.97/9 3}
14. Bd2 {(N1d2) 1} Na5 {-1.35/10 2} 15. Qd1 {(Rad1) 2} Nc4 {-1.62/9 3} 16. Bc1
{6} Rab8 {-1.43/11 0} 17. Be2 {(Qe2) 2} Qc6 {-1.37/8 3} 18. N3d2 {(Qc2) 4} Be6
{-1.16/10 3} 19. Nxe4 {(Bf3) 3} dxe4 {-0.97/10 2} 20. Bg4 {(b3) 1} f5 {-1.22/
10 2} 21. Be2 {1} Nb6 {-1.09/12 8} 22. h4 {(b3) 6} Na4 {-1.32/10 4} 23. Nh2 {
4) 3} Rbd8 {-1.53/10 2} 24. Rf1 {(Nf1) 2} Bd5 {-1.62/10 2} 25. Qe1 {(Rb1) 1}
Qd6 {-1.57/9 2} 26. Rf2 {(h5) 7} Nb6 {-1.43/10 2} 27. Nf1 {(h5) 4} Bb3 {-1.34/
9 3} 28. Bd1 {(h5) 4} Bxd1 {-1.30/11 1} 29. Qxd1 {1} h5 {-1.21/11 5} 30. Qe2 {
Qb3+) 2} Rc8 {-1.44/11 2} 31. Kh1 {(Bd2) 1} e6 {-1.54/11 3} 32. Bd2 {1} Rf7 {-1
.51/12 0} 33. Be1 {1} Rfc7 {-1.47/12 0} 34. Kh2 {(Rg2) 1} Nd5 {-1.47/10 1} 35.
Kh1 {(Rg2) 2} Qb6 {-1.47/10 2} 36. Kg1 {(Rg2) 1} Bf6 {-1.42/10 2} 37. Kh1 {
) 1} Qd6 {-1.47/11 1} 38. Kg1 {(Rg2) 1} Kg7 {-1.43/11 3} 39. Kg2 {(Rg2) 0} Kh7
{-1.43/10 1} 40. Kg1 {0} Qb6 {-1.43/13 1} 41. Kg2 {(Rg2) 1} Bg7 {-1.46/11 1}
42. Kh1 {(Kg1) 0} Qd6 {-1.47/11 1} 43. Kg2 {(Rg2) 0} Rd7 {-1.46/10 3} 44. Kh1 {
(Kg1) 0} Kg8 {-1.45/10 2} 45. Kg2 {(Kg1) 0} Qc6 {-1.46/10 3} 46. Kh1 {0} a5 {-1
.46/12 0} 47. Kh2 {(Kg1) 1} Rdc7 {-1.46/12 2} 48. Kg1 {0} a4 {-1.46/13 0} 49.
Kh2 {(Rd1) 1} Kh7 {-1.46/12 2} 50. Kg1 {0} Rd7 {-1.46/14 0} 51. Kh2 {(Rd1) 0}
Bf8 {-1.46/9 1} 52. Kg1 {(Kg2) 0} Kg8 {-1.46/14 1} 53. Kh2 {(Rd1) 0} Bg7 {-1.
46/12 1} 54. Kg1 {0} Nb6 {-1.46/14 0} 55. Kh2 {(Rd1) 0} Rdd8 {-1.46/12 1} 56.
Kg1 {0} Nc4 {-1.46/13 0} 57. Kh2 {(Rc1) 1} Rd7 {-1.46/11 1} 58. Kg1 {0} Ra7 {-1
.46/13 0} 59. Kh2 {(Rb1) 0} Rac7 {-1.46/11 1} 60. Kg1 {(Rc1) 0} Qd5 {-1.46/13 2
} 61. Kh2 {(Rc1) 0} Qd7 {-1.46/12 1} 62. Kg1 {0} Qd8 {-1.46/14 0} 63. Kh2 {
) 0} Qd5 {-1.46/11 1} 64. Kg1 {0} Qc6 {-1.46/14 0} 65. Kh2 {(Rc1) 0} Rf8 {-1.
46/11 1} 66. Kg1 {0} Rb8 {-1.46/14 0} 67. Kh2 {(Rg2) 0} Re8 {-1.46/10 1} 68.
Kg1 {(Rc1) 0} Rf8 {-1.46/13 2} 69. Kh2 {(Rc1) 0} Rd8 {-1.46/12 1} 70. Kg1 {
) 0} Rcd7 {-1.46/10 1} 71. Kh2 {(Rc1) 0} Bf6 {-1.46/11 1} 72. Kg1 {0} Rc8 {-1.
46/13 0} 73. Kh2 {(Rc1) 0} Qd5 {-1.46/11 1} 74. Kg1 {0} Rdc7 {-1.46/14 0} 75.
Kh2 {(Rc1) 0} Rf7 {-1.46/10 1} 76. Kg1 {(Kg2) 0} Qc6 {-1.46/11 1} 77. Kh2 {
) 0} Rd8 {-1.46/11 1} 78. Kg1 {(Rc1) 0} Rfd7 {-1.46/11 1} 79. Kh2 {(Rg2) 0} Bg7
{-1.46/11 1} 80. Kg1 {(Rc1) 0} Rc7 {-1.46/12 1} 81. Kh2 {(Rb1) 0} Rdd7 {-1.46/
10 1} 82. Kg1 {0} Rc8 {-1.46/15 0} 83. Kh2 {(Rb1) 0} Qb6 {-1.46/10 1} 84. Kg1 {
(Rd1) 0} Rcd8 {-1.46/12 2} 85. Kh2 {(Rc1) 0} Qb7 {-1.46/9 1} 86. Kh1 {(Rc1) 0}
Rc8 {-1.46/10 1} 87. Kh2 {(Kg1) 0} Rcc7 {-1.46/12 1} 88. Kh1 {(Rc1) 0} Qd5 {-1.
46/10 1} 89. Kh2 {(Kg2) 0} Rf7 {-1.46/10 1} 90. Kh1 {(Rc1) 0} Rc8 {-1.46/9 1}
91. Kh2 {(Rc1) 0} Ra7 {-1.46/11 1} 92. Kg1 {0} Rd7 {-1.46/15 0} 93. Kh2 {(Rc1)
0} Rdd8 {-1.46/10 1} 94. Kg1 {0} Rc7 {-1.46/15 0} 95. Kh2 {(Rc1) 0} Re8 {-1.46/
11 1} 96. Kg1 {1} Ra8 {-1.46/11 0} 97. Kh2 {(Rc1) 1} Qc6 {-1.46/11 2} 98. Kg1 {
2} cxd4 {-1.02/13 0} 99. exd4 {(cxd4) 1} Rd8 {-1.36/9 1} 100. Rd1 {(Ne3) 10}
Qd5 {-1.21/10 1} 101. Ne3 {1} Qb7 {-1.12/14 0} 102. Nxc4 {1} bxc4 {-1.12/16 0}
103. Qe3 {(Rf1) 9} Rd6 {-1.12/8 0} 104. Rdd2 {(Rfd2) 1} Rcd7 {-1.12/9 1} 105.
Kh2 {(Rf1) 1} Rd8 {-1.21/8 1} 106. Kh3 {(Kg1) 1} Rb6 {-1.32/10 1} 107. Kh2 {
2) 0} Qd5 {-1.25/9 0} 108. Kh3 {(Kg2) 0} Rb3 {-1.28/8 0} 109. Kh2 {(Kg2) 0} Qd6
{-1.25/9 1} 110. Kh3 {(Kg1) 0} Qc7 {-1.28/9 1} 111. Kh2 {0} Qd7 {-1.25/11 0}
112. Kh3 {(Kg1) 0} Rdb8 {-1.28/8 0} 113. Kh2 {0} R8b5 {-1.20/13 1} 114. Kh3 {
fe2) 0} Qb7 {-1.31/6 0} 115. Qe2 {. 5} Qd5 {-1.20/14 0} 116. Qe3 {(Kh2) 1} Bf6
{-1.26/6 0} 117. Kh2 {(Rfe2) 0} Rb8 {-1.25/9 1} 118. Kh3 {(Rc2) 0} Kg7 {-1.26/
6 0} 119. Kh2 {(Kg2) 0} R3b7 {0.01/2 0} 120. Kh3 {(Rfe2) 0} Rd7 {-1.28/2 0}
121. Kh2 {(Rfe2) 0} Kg8 {-1.25/2 0} 122. Kh3 {(Rfe2) 0} Rb3 {-1.35/1 0} 123.
Kh2 {(Rde2) 0} Rd6 {-1.25/8 0} 124. Kh3 {(Rc2) 0} Qb5 {-1.28/1 0} 125. Kh2 {
2) 0} Rd8 {-1.26/2 0} 126. Kh3 {(Rfe2) 0} Qd7 {-1.28/3 0} 127. Kh2 {0} Rdb8 {-1
.14/13 0} 128. Kh3 {(Rfe2) 1} R8b6 {-1.25/4 0} 129. Kh2 {0} Bg7 {-1.20/14 0}
130. Kh3 {(Rfe2) 1} Qb7 {-1.31/4 0} 131. Qe2 {1} Qd5 {-1.20/14 0} 132. Qe3 {
2) 1} Bf6 {-1.26/7 0} 133. Kh2 {0} Rb7 {-1.15/13 0} 134. Kh3 {(Rfe2) 0} Rf7 {-1
.26/1 0} 135. Kh2 {(Rfe2) 0} Rb8 {-1.30/1 0} 136. Kh3 {(Rfe2) 0} Rd7 {-1.25/6 0
} 137. Kh2 {(Rfe2) 0} Rdb7 {-1.25/4 0} 138. Kh3 {(Rc2) 0} Bg7 {-1.25/7 0} 139.
Kh2 {0} Rb3 {-1.14/13 0} 140. Kh3 {(Rc2) 1} Kh7 {-1.26/2 0} 141. Kh2 {1} Kh8 {-
1.14/14 0} 142. Kh3 {(Rc2) 0} R3b6 {-1.25/1 0} 143. Kh2 {(Rfe2) 0} Bf8 {-1.19/
8 0} 144. Kh3 {(Rfe2) 0} Kg8 {-1.25/1 0} 145. Kh2 {(Rfe2) 0} Bh6 {-1.23/3 0}
146. Kh3 {(Rg2) 1} Rd8 {-1.25/4 0} 147. Kh2 {(Rfe2) 0} Rb3 {0.01/2 0} 148. Kh1
{(Rg2) 0} Qc6 {-1.25/6 0} 149. Kg1 {1} e5 {-1.36/13 0} 150. dxe5 {(Rg2) 3} Rd3
{-1.21/9 0} 151. Rfe2 {(Rxd3) 5} Rxe3 {-5.08/6 0} 152. Rxe3 {0} Qb6 {-5.87/10 0
} 153. Bf2 {8} Rxb2 {-6.21/12 0} 154. Ree2 {(Re1) 0} Rxd2 {-6.40/5 0} 155. Rxd2
{Time (Lag: Av=1.81s, max=3.4s) 0} 1-0
I am thinking chess is in a coin.Human beings for ever playing in one face.Now I am playing in the other face:"Antichess". Computers are as a fortres where owner forgot to close a little door behind. You must enter across this door.Forget the front.
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Re: Antichess is Alive. Rybka 3 has been killed. Man v Machi

Post by Graham Banks »

Looks like you won on time in a lost position.
Is that the fault of the GUI or the engine?
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RYBKA ALGORITHM HAS BEEN DISCOVER. CRAZZY MACHINE

Post by Father »

..No....this is a clasical antichess game.
Pure anticomputer game.
Rybka 3 algorithm has broken.

Rybka 3 is now CRAZZY
I am thinking chess is in a coin.Human beings for ever playing in one face.Now I am playing in the other face:"Antichess". Computers are as a fortres where owner forgot to close a little door behind. You must enter across this door.Forget the front.
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Re: RYBKA ALGORITHM HAS BEEN DISCOVER. CRAZZY MACHINE

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Father wrote:..No....this is a clasical antichess game.
Pure anticomputer game.
Rybka 3 algorithm has broken.

Rybka 3 is now CRAZZY
Sorry Pablo, but I don't think that this game tells us anything.
I'll admit you've done well in some games you've posted, but in my opinion, this one isn't anything to crow about.

Regards, Graham.
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Re: RYBKA ALGORITHM HAS BEEN DISCOVER. CRAZZY MACHINE

Post by Father »

Graham

Rybka 3 is a very strong kind of sniker.This machine has been build with a top knowlodge, and with a clear antiwall technique and intelligence.
The game looks iqual to other games, but, there are here a new scale for human being inside. Rybka 3 was borned as a new kind of criature, very diferebt to Rybka,s parents. So, to play that kind of games against Rybka 3 is 100% more complicate that against anyother kind of old Rybkas.
This is a prove that antichess is alive and that Rybka 3 is not perfect. Then the battle has not ended, and we can learn against that kind of challengers.
If a simple amateur can beat the mega - Queen, a mega -monster that was build for a team of genious, with all support in develoment, prove to us, the human beings, that our brain has enough emagination, for do a travel to the center of the CPU and the cold-heard of machines, to destroy them.
It is as a war. Thesis, antithesis, thesis, anthitesis agfain and again.....
Lesson is simple: Nothing looks perfect in out Earth planet. What a nice lesson.

Best,

Pablo Ignacio Restrepo
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I am thinking chess is in a coin.Human beings for ever playing in one face.Now I am playing in the other face:"Antichess". Computers are as a fortres where owner forgot to close a little door behind. You must enter across this door.Forget the front.
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Re: RYBKA ALGORITHM HAS BEEN DISCOVER. CRAZZY MACHINE

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Father wrote:Graham

Rybka 3 is a very strong kind of sniker.This machine has been build with a top knowlodge, and with a clear antiwall technique and intelligence.
The game looks iqual to other games, but, there are here a new scale for human being inside. Rybka 3 was borned as a new kind of criature, very diferebt to Rybka,s parents. So, to play that kind of games against Rybka 3 is 100% more complicate that against anyother kind of old Rybkas.
This is a prove that antichess is alive and that Rybka 3 is not perfect. Then the battle has not ended, and we can learn against that kind of challengers.
If a simple amateur can beat the mega - Queen, a mega -monster that was build for a team of genious, with all support in develoment, prove to us, the human beings, that our brain has enough emagination, for do a travel to the center of the CPU and the cold-heard of machines, to destroy them.
It is as a war. Thesis, antithesis, thesis, anthitesis agfain and again.....
Lesson is simple: Nothing looks perfect in out Earth planet. What a nice lesson.

Best,

Pablo Ignacio Restrepo
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Hi Pablo,

I understand what you're trying to say, but you didn't use anti-chess to win this particular game.
There is no blockade in the final position and you had a lost game.

Regards, Graham.
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Re: RYBKA ALGORITHM HAS BEEN DISCOVER. CRAZZY MACHINE

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Graham Banks wrote:
Father wrote:Graham

Rybka 3 is a very strong kind of sniker.This machine has been build with a top knowlodge, and with a clear antiwall technique and intelligence.
The game looks iqual to other games, but, there are here a new scale for human being inside. Rybka 3 was borned as a new kind of criature, very diferebt to Rybka,s parents. So, to play that kind of games against Rybka 3 is 100% more complicate that against anyother kind of old Rybkas.
This is a prove that antichess is alive and that Rybka 3 is not perfect. Then the battle has not ended, and we can learn against that kind of challengers.
If a simple amateur can beat the mega - Queen, a mega -monster that was build for a team of genious, with all support in develoment, prove to us, the human beings, that our brain has enough emagination, for do a travel to the center of the CPU and the cold-heard of machines, to destroy them.
It is as a war. Thesis, antithesis, thesis, anthitesis agfain and again.....
Lesson is simple: Nothing looks perfect in out Earth planet. What a nice lesson.

Best,

Pablo Ignacio Restrepo
Father playchess.com server
Hi Pablo,

I understand what you're trying to say, but you didn't use anti-chess to win this particular game.
There is no blockade in the final position and you had a lost game.

Regards, Graham.
You should look not only in the final position

[d]3r2k1/8/2q1p1pb/5p1p/p1pPpP1P/PrP1Q1P1/1P1R1R2/4B1K1 b - - 0 149

Rybka played e5 to prevent draw by the 50 move rules and pablo did not care about the quality of his moves when he saw that rybka is going to lose on time.

Uri
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Re: RYBKA ALGORITHM HAS BEEN DISCOVER. CRAZZY MACHINE

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Uri Blass wrote: You should look not only in the final position

[d]3r2k1/8/2q1p1pb/5p1p/p1pPpP1P/PrP1Q1P1/1P1R1R2/4B1K1 b - - 0 149

Rybka played e5 to prevent draw by the 50 move rules and pablo did not care about the quality of his moves when he saw that rybka is going to lose on time.

Uri
And is it the engine's fault that it lost on time or the GUI's fault?
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Re: RYBKA ALGORITHM HAS BEEN DISCOVER. CRAZZY MACHINE

Post by swami »

Graham Banks wrote:And is it the engine's fault that it lost on time or the GUI's fault?
75% Internet connection and GUI fault (lag, so moves made and engine starting its analysis _delays_)

25 % Engine's Fault (not taking strict account of its time left). That's my estimation.

Note that Rybka hardly loses in offline blitz match, it loses more on playchess. :)
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Re: RYBKA ALGORITHM HAS BEEN DISCOVER. CRAZZY MACHINE

Post by Ovyron »

To ensure 100% that Pablo won't win a game, they have to set up the engine correctly and use incremental time controls.