speaking of false evidence ... revisited

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speaking of false evidence ... revisited

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I think the single most disappointing thing I have seen in this discussion, was this particular thread. Which was absolutely wrong in its content. And it was jumped on with attaboy, good job, by all those wanting to see this discussion terminated. And once it was proven to be completely wrong, not a single word of retraction, or "oops I goofed" nor any comments from the attaboy crowd.

Yet this same group is demanding that once this is over, and if Rybka is found to be clean, that everybody involved must apologize in public. And not a single apology for making statements in the particular thread I mentioned.

Does anyone _else_ detect a bit of a double standard at work?

Guess it can't be as it appears. Or can it?

Another of those "things that make you go hmmm..."
irvstein1

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Post by irvstein1 »

i guess what im wanting to know is why so much concern over rybka and what end result do people seek ? for instance ((if)) in the begining rybka used some of fruit code etc . would the end result be that rybka 3 be done away with ? or maybe a fine or a court hearing ,,,,, i guess im just wondering exactly what any kind of solution people seek ? maybe i better get my copy quick before there is no more rybka .
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It is obvious who is credible and who isn't.
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Post by swami »

Which post was erred from the other side in technical matters? Dann's one that was refuted presumably by Zach, Lance Perkins and Yourself? Is that the one you were talking about?

As for myself, I basically don't take sides and stay away from this other than do moderation and post something that can refute anyone's point in non technical matter. I'm just a innocent bystander and not someone belonging to attaboy crowd :)

Last month, Tony and Ted were using 'fanboi', they found it to be funny...now I we see the new words appear now...the 'Attaboy crowd' :lol:
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swami wrote:Which post was erred from the other side in technical matters? Dann's one that was refuted presumably by Zach, Lance Perkins and Yourself? Is that the one you were talking about?
Actually two posts from Dann saying that certain functions don't exist in Rybka, when they in do. This is a fact. This would not be so bad in itself, but Dann's delivery puts the icing on the cake:

"We have been quibbling over false information. These so-called source code dumps are whimsical fabrications."

I could easily take offense at that (saying that I am deliberately misleading people), but given the result of the thread I think it stands for itself. Let the readers make their own conclusions.
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Post by chrisw »

Zach Wegner wrote:
swami wrote:Which post was erred from the other side in technical matters? Dann's one that was refuted presumably by Zach, Lance Perkins and Yourself? Is that the one you were talking about?
Actually two posts from Dann saying that certain functions don't exist in Rybka, when they in do. This is a fact. This would not be so bad in itself, but Dann's delivery puts the icing on the cake:

"We have been quibbling over false information. These so-called source code dumps are whimsical fabrications."

I could easily take offense at that (saying that I am deliberately misleading people), but given the result of the thread I think it stands for itself. Let the readers make their own conclusions.
Well, I made no comment at all to any of it. Probably way past my bedtime, not to mention pay grade ;-)
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Post by Marc MP »

bob wrote:I think the single most disappointing thing I have seen in this discussion, was this particular thread. Which was absolutely wrong in its content. And it was jumped on with attaboy, good job, by all those wanting to see this discussion terminated. And once it was proven to be completely wrong, not a single word of retraction, or "oops I goofed" nor any comments from the attaboy crowd.

Yet this same group is demanding that once this is over, and if Rybka is found to be clean, that everybody involved must apologize in public. And not a single apology for making statements in the particular thread I mentioned.

Does anyone _else_ detect a bit of a double standard at work?

Guess it can't be as it appears. Or can it?

Another of those "things that make you go hmmm..."
I'm shocked to see how non-programmers jump into the debate without any argument in order to damage your reputation, or the one of Z.Wegner. or C. Théron.

If I can't judge the evidence, I don't do personal attack (like invoking envy, jealousy etc.) against people who are presenting it. It might seems obvious, but there are still people here not understanding this.
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Post by swami »

I have deleted a lot of posts that attacked some members, It would really help if people here start reporting posts they found offensive, it would save moderators time.

Busy schedule leaves me with only 2 to 3 hours break time. So I cannot read ALL of the posts that have been made in so short a time...

And Thanks to people who lodged in a complaint about the posts they found offensive... :)
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Post by bob »

swami wrote:I have deleted a lot of posts that attacked some members, It would really help if people here start reporting posts they found offensive, it would save moderators time.

Busy schedule leaves me with only 2 to 3 hours break time. So I cannot read ALL of the posts that have been made in so short a time...

And Thanks to people who lodged in a complaint about the posts they found offensive... :)
I do not believe you could read _all_ of them if you worked 24 hours a day. I skip the majority myself and _still_ waste far too much time responding.
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Post by swami »

bob wrote:
swami wrote:I have deleted a lot of posts that attacked some members, It would really help if people here start reporting posts they found offensive, it would save moderators time.

Busy schedule leaves me with only 2 to 3 hours break time. So I cannot read ALL of the posts that have been made in so short a time...

And Thanks to people who lodged in a complaint about the posts they found offensive... :)
I do not believe you could read _all_ of them if you worked 24 hours a day. I skip the majority myself and _still_ waste far too much time responding.
Well, I didn't skip the majority other than the technical parts. :P

Well what I actually meant was that I had 2-3 hours straight, being online which is enough time, but not enough to read ALL of the posts on this topic.

Today I recollect, 9-10 hours work, 8 hours sleep, 2-3 hours roaming and shopping, that leaves close to around 2 to 3 hours online not counting the break time. 24 hours is too short a time for one full day :)