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Bobby Fischer outrageous chess moves,position 1....

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....by Bruce Pandolfini

Hi all,
I am starting a series of test positions from this gorgeous chess book I have to see how the current computer chess software can cope with one of the greatest chess players in human history :D
101 moves_which leads either to a checkmate,gained material,or lead to a superior position....
One of my aims is to fry your hardware,especialy Majd's octal machine and Ted's quad machine :mrgreen:


Position 1:
Bobby Fischer-Larsen Bent
Denver 1971
White's 43rd move....



[d]8/8/3k1pp1/P6p/3K4/6P1/7P/8 w - - 0 1

Solution:43....a6!
Fischer is trying to decoy the black king from the king side and the rest is obvious....

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Re: Bobby Fischer outrageous chess moves,position 1....

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Dr.Wael Deeb wrote:....by Bruce Pandolfini

Hi all,
I am starting a series of test positions from this gorgeous chess book I have to see how the current computer chess software can cope with one of the greatest chess players in human history :D
101 moves_which leads either to a checkmate,gained material,or lead to a superior position....
One of my aims is to fry your hardware,especialy Majd's octal machine and Ted's quad machine :mrgreen:


Position 1:
Bobby Fischer-Larsen Bent
Denver 1971
White's 43rd move....



[d]8/8/3k1pp1/P6p/3K4/6P1/7P/8 w - - 0 1

Solution:43....a6!
Fischer is trying to decoy the black king from the king side and the rest is obvious....

Launch your engines Ladies and Gentlemen and don't forget to swith on your air conditioners :P


This move looks quite easy. My engine finds it instantly. I guess most engine will...



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Yes,you're absolutely right Christophe....
But I want to include all the positions from the book,one by one and believe me,as I post more and more positions,it will get real tough....
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Dr.Wael Deeb wrote:Yes,you're absolutely right Christophe....
But I want to include all the positions from the book,one by one and believe me,as I post more and more positions,it will get real tough....


OK. I'm interested.



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tiger wrote:
Dr.Wael Deeb wrote:Yes,you're absolutely right Christophe....
But I want to include all the positions from the book,one by one and believe me,as I post more and more positions,it will get real tough....


OK. I'm interested.



// Christophe
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Isnt that the book that was first released in 1985?
If so, the guys here that look for test positions have already thrashed those in your book years ago. The best test positions in your book are also in old test suites.

Like Chris said, instant.

Seems the nolot positions are also outdated.
Do you check each GM tournament for new test positions and blunders?

I will see if I have that old book on the shelf. If I do, I will see if I can find a position that challenges todays programs.

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kgburcham wrote:Isnt that the book that was first released in 1985?
If so, the guys here that look for test positions have already thrashed those in your book years ago. The best test positions in your book are also in old test suites.

Like Chris said, instant.

Seems the nolot positions are also outdated.
Do you check each GM tournament for new test positions and blunders?

I will see if I have that old book on the shelf. If I do, I will see if I can find a position that challenges todays programs.

kburcham
Never mind how old is it,it will be fun to post all the 101 positions from this book,are you saying that all the current chess engines will solve all the positions posted here :!: :?: ....
I don't think so and I don't think that there is such thing as "outdated positions".....
I check the new test positions and I collect them in a special database,mostly moves which lead to positional superiority and deep combinations....
I don't care about human blunders which are obvious moves to avoide by the machines....
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Dr.Wael Deeb wrote:....by Bruce Pandolfini

Hi all,
I am starting a series of test positions from this gorgeous chess book I have to see how the current computer chess software can cope with one of the greatest chess players in human history :D
101 moves_which leads either to a checkmate,gained material,or lead to a superior position....
One of my aims is to fry your hardware,especialy Majd's octal machine and Ted's quad machine :mrgreen:


Position 1:
Bobby Fischer-Larsen Bent
Denver 1971
White's 43rd move....



[d]8/8/3k1pp1/P6p/3K4/6P1/7P/8 w - - 0 1

Solution:43....a6!
Fischer is trying to decoy the black king from the king side and the rest is obvious....

Launch your engines Ladies and Gentlemen and don't forget to swith on your air conditioners :P
Hi Dr.,

It seems that 1. h4 is a valid solution too according to Bright (after h4):

Code: Select all

1...Kc6 2.a6 Kb6 3.Kd5 Kxa6 4.Ke6 f5 5.Kf6 Kb5 6.Kxg6 Rc5 7.Kxf5 Rd6 8.Kg5 Re7 9.Kxh5 Rf7 10.Kg5 Rg7 11.h5 Kh7 12.Kf6 Kg8 13.g4 Kf8 14.g5 Ke8 
  +-  (51.31)   Depth: 27/73   00:12:43  475mN
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Re: Bobby Fischer outrageous chess moves,position 1....

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Marc MP wrote:
Dr.Wael Deeb wrote:....by Bruce Pandolfini

Hi all,
I am starting a series of test positions from this gorgeous chess book I have to see how the current computer chess software can cope with one of the greatest chess players in human history :D
101 moves_which leads either to a checkmate,gained material,or lead to a superior position....
One of my aims is to fry your hardware,especialy Majd's octal machine and Ted's quad machine :mrgreen:


Position 1:
Bobby Fischer-Larsen Bent
Denver 1971
White's 43rd move....



[d]8/8/3k1pp1/P6p/3K4/6P1/7P/8 w - - 0 1

Solution:43....a6!
Fischer is trying to decoy the black king from the king side and the rest is obvious....

Launch your engines Ladies and Gentlemen and don't forget to swith on your air conditioners :P
Hi Dr.,

It seems that 1. h4 is a valid solution too according to Bright (after h4):

Code: Select all

1...Kc6 2.a6 Kb6 3.Kd5 Kxa6 4.Ke6 f5 5.Kf6 Kb5 6.Kxg6 Rc5 7.Kxf5 Rd6 8.Kg5 Re7 9.Kxh5 Rf7 10.Kg5 Rg7 11.h5 Kh7 12.Kf6 Kg8 13.g4 Kf8 14.g5 Ke8 
  +-  (51.31)   Depth: 27/73   00:12:43  475mN
Hi Marc,
Yes,but it takes us back to the same direction and that is to send the black king away from the king side....
I personaly prefer Fischer's move,if anything,it's more beautiful :D
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