Berserk - question

[Krzysztof Grzelak]

Sorry to ask. Has the engine Berserk on its own file Eval File. I downloaded the versions Berserk 9 dev 3 but no file Eval File. Is it possible to write from where to download this file.

[Chessqueen]

Sorry to ask. Has the engine Berserk on its own file Eval File. I downloaded the versions Berserk 9 dev 3 but no file Eval File. Is it possible to write from where to download this file.

Under Arena 3.5.1 you can setup any position and then click Analyze Now!
[fen]r1bk3r/pp3pp1/2n5/1BB2n1p/5Q2/8/PPP2PP1/3K4 b - - 3 1 [/fen]
FEN: r1bk3r/pp3pp1/2n5/1BB2n1p/5Q2/8/PPP2PP1/3K4 b - - 3 1

Berserk-9-dev-x64-avx2:
time -1 start 58068546 alloc 0 max 0 depth 126 timeset 0 searchmoves 0
1 00:00 11 11k -0.30 a7-a6
2/5 00:00 382 382k +1.05 a7-a6 Bb5xc6
3/7 00:00 827 827k +0.71 a7-a6 Bb5xc6 b7xc6 a2-a3
4/7 00:00 1k 1,394k +1.32 a7-a6 Bb5xc6 b7xc6 Kd1-e1 Kd8-e8
5/9 00:00 2k 1,932k +1.69 Bc8-e6
6/9 00:00 3k 2,503k +1.80 Bc8-e6 Kd1-c1 Kd8-c8 a2-a3
7/9 00:00 4k 3,780k +2.05 Bc8-e6
8/11 00:00 6k 6,332k +2.26 Bc8-e6 Bb5xc6
9/13 00:00 10k 9,514k +2.47 Bc8-e6 Kd1-c1 Rh8-h6
10/14 00:00 22k 22,302k +2.38 Bc8-e6 Kd1-c1 Rh8-h6 f2-f3 Be6-d7 Bb5-d3 Rh6-f6 b2-b3
11/15 00:00 28k 28,200k +2.58 Bc8-e6 Kd1-c1 Ra8-c8 b2-b4 Rh8-h6
12/18 00:00 109k 6,832k +2.44 Rh8-h6 Kd1-c1 Bc8-e6 Bb5xc6 b7xc6 Qf4-b4 Kd8-e8 b2-b3 a7-a6 a2-a4 Ra8-d8 Qb4-b7 Rd8-d7
13/22 00:00 162k 10,099k +2.42 Rh8-h6 Kd1-c1 Bc8-e6 Bb5xc6 b7xc6 Qf4-b4 Kd8-e8 Qb4-b7 Ra8-c8 Qb7xa7 Be6-d5 a2-a4 Rh6-e6 Qa7-b7 Rc8-d8
14/22 00:00 328k 6,989k +2.45 Rh8-h6 a2-a4 Bc8-d7 Kd1-c1 Ra8-c8 Bc5xa7 Nc6xa7 Bb5xd7 Kd8xd7 Qf4xf5+ Kd7-c7 Qf5-f4+ Kc7-b6 Qf4xf7 Rh6-c6 Qf7-d7 Rc6xc2+ Kc1-b1
15/28 00:00 752k 6,017k +2.63 Bc8-e6 a2-a4 Kd8-c8 a4-a5 Nc6xa5 Qf4-a4 b7-b6 Kd1-c1 b6xc5
16/28 00:00 1,278k 5,837k +2.63 Bc8-e6 b2-b4 Rh8-h6 Bb5-d3 Rh6-f6 Bd3xf5 Rf6xf5 Qf4-d6+ Kd8-c8 c2-c4 Ra8-b8 b4-b5
17/29 00:00 2,893k 5,786k +2.40 Bc8-e6 Bb5-d3 Nf5-e7 Kd1-c1 h5-h4 b2-b4 b7-b6 b4-b5 b6xc5 b5xc6 Ra8-c8 Qf4-d6+ Kd8-e8 c6-c7 Rh8-h6 Qd6-e5 Rh6-f6 Qe5xc5 h4-h3 g2xh3 Ke8-f8 Bd3-a6
xa5 Ke8-f7 Ba5-b4 Ra8-a6 a4-a5 Rb8-d8 c2-c4

I do NOT have any problem seeing the Evaluation either
[Event "Computer chess game"]
[Site "DESKTOP-OFQ3C0P"]
[Date "2022.06.10"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Berserk-9-dev-x64-avx2"]
[Black "Berserk-9-dev-x64-avx2"]
[Result "*"]
[BlackElo "3495"]
[Time "10:28:35"]
[WhiteElo "3495"]
[TimeControl "840+10"]
[SetUp "1"]
[FEN "r1bk3r/pp3pp1/2n5/1BB2n1p/5Q2/8/PPP2PP1/3K4 b - - 3 1"]
[Termination "unterminated"]
[PlyCount "3"]
[WhiteType "program"]
[BlackType "program"]

1. ... Be6 {(Bc8-e6 Bb5xc6 b7xc6 Kd1-c1 Kd8-d7 a2-a4 Rh8-d8 a4-a5 a7-a6
Qf4-f3 g7-g6 Bc5-b6 Rd8-c8 Bb6-c5 Kd7-e8 Qf3-e2 Rc8-d8 Qe2-e5 Ke8-d7 Qe5-f4
Be6-d5 Bc5-b6 Rd8-c8 f2-f3 h5-h4 Qf4-d2 Kd7-e8 Qd2-g5 Ra8-b8 b2-b3 Ke8-d7
Qg5-d2 h4-h3 g2xh3 Kd7-e6) +2.89/37 41} 2. Bxc6 {(Bb5xc6 b7xc6 Kd1-c1
Kd8-d7 a2-a4 Rh8-d8 a4-a5 Kd7-e8 Qf4-c7 Rd8-d7 Qc7xc6 Ra8-d8 b2-b4 Nf5-e7
Qc6-e4 Ke8-f8 Qe4-h7 f7-f6 f2-f4 Kf8-f7 Qh7xh5+ Kf7-g8 g2-g4 Ne7-d5 f4-f5
Be6-f7 Qh5-h3 Rd8-c8 Kc1-b2 a7-a6 g4-g5 f6xg5 Qh3-g4 Rc8-b8 Qg4xg5 Nd5xb4)
-3.00/32 25} bxc6 {(b7xc6 Kd1-c1 Kd8-d7 a2-a4 Rh8-d8 a4-a5 Kd7-e8 Qf4-c7
Rd8-d7 Qc7xc6 Ra8-d8 b2-b4 Nf5-e7 Qc6-e4 Ke8-f8 Qe4-h7 f7-f6 a5-a6 Kf8-f7
Qh7xh5+ Kf7-g8 g2-g4 Be6-f7 Qh5-h3 Ne7-g6 g4-g5 f6xg5 Qh3-g3 Ng6-f8 Qg3xg5)
+3.18/34 41} *

[Wolfgang]

Before writing such a complete rubbish without any relation to the question, you should read what he wrote carefully!!

Where does he ask about setting up a position and analyze???

He asked about an "Eval File" to download. I'm not totally sure, but I think he means the NN(UE) file of Berserk?!
As far as I know, it is EMBEDDED and not as big as the NNs from other engines. At least it was at version 8.5.1

[Chessqueen]

Before writing such a complete rubbish without any relation to the question, you should read what he wrote carefully!!

Where does he ask about setting up a position and analyze???

He asked about an "Eval File" to download. I'm not totally sure, but I think he means the NN(UE) file of Berserk?!
As far as I know, it is EMBEDDED and not as big as the NNs from other engines. At least it was at version 8.5.1

If you are NOT sure don't write any rubbish explanation of What you believe he is asking, since you are NOT SURE, you are as confused as I am

There was an old Blind man in Sevilla, Spain, that his son took him to the park every day to listen to music, but one day his son had a high school test and told his father I will get a friend of mine to take you to the park, but my friend sometimes likes to ask questions even if he knows the answer that is how he is, so if he ask you a question do not believe that he does not know the answer. So his father was waiting for his son's friend to take him to the park, and a tourist came by Not knowing that the old man was blind and asked him how do I get to the Park from here, immediately the old blind man was happy thinking that his son's friend came to take him to the park and knowing in advanced that his son's friend like to ask questions, the old Blind man responded I am NOT totally sure but if you take me there, I will let you know. As you can see the Word I 'm not totally sure let anybody knows that you do NOT know better than the person asking the question or trying to answer

[Guenther]

Before writing such a complete rubbish without any relation to the question, you should read what he wrote carefully!! :evil:

Where does he ask about setting up a position and analyze???

He asked about an "Eval File" to download. I'm not totally sure, but I think he means the NN(UE) file of Berserk?!
As far as I know, it is EMBEDDED and not as big as the NNs from other engines. At least it was at version 8.5.1

If you are NOT sure don't write any rubbish explanation of What you believe he is asking, since you are NOT SURE, you are as confused as I am :lol:

There was an old Blind man in Sevilla... long fairytale... snip

Well, Wolfgang was sure about the question, but not totally sure about the answer.
He still answered with a confidence in the 95% ballpark and I can confirm he was right ;-)

You on the other hand did not even understand the question of the OP.

[jhonnold]

Sorry to ask. Has the engine Berserk on its own file Eval File. I downloaded the versions Berserk 9 dev 3 but no file Eval File. Is it possible to write from where to download this file.

There is a base network embedded. Latest networks can be downloaded here: https://github.com/jhonnold/berserk-networks

[Krzysztof Grzelak]

Sorry to ask. Has the engine Berserk on its own file Eval File. I downloaded the versions Berserk 9 dev 3 but no file Eval File. Is it possible to write from where to download this file.

There is a base network embedded. Latest networks can be downloaded here: https://github.com/jhonnold/berserk-networks

Thank you very much for all help and response.

[Krzysztof Grzelak]

A heartfelt thanks to Simon, Wolfgan and Chessqueen.

[Wolfgang]

If you are NOT sure don't write any rubbish explanation of What you believe he is asking, since you are NOT SURE, you are as confused as I am

There was an old Blind man in Sevilla, Spain, that his son took him to the park every day to listen to music, but one day his son had a high school test and told his father I will get a friend of mine to take you to the park, but my friend sometimes likes to ask questions even if he knows the answer that is how he is, so if he ask you a question do not believe that he does not know the answer. So his father was waiting for his son's friend to take him to the park, and a tourist came by Not knowing that the old man was blind and asked him how do I get to the Park from here, immediately the old blind man was happy thinking that his son's friend came to take him to the park and knowing in advanced that his son's friend like to ask questions, the old Blind man responded I am NOT totally sure but if you take me there, I will let you know. As you can see the Word I 'm not totally sure let anybody knows that you do NOT know better than the person asking the question or trying to answer

Shut up, troll!

[Chessqueen]

If you are NOT sure don't write any rubbish explanation of What you believe he is asking, since you are NOT SURE, you are as confused as I am

Shut up, troll!

I am NOT trolling I am simply trying to find flaws in Berserk so the programmer can make changes. I could NOT believe my Eyes when I saw Berserk resigning, Berserk has the biggest problem recognizing a drawn position since it does not probably have the opposition chess knowledge imbedded to recognize that it is a dead draw, since White does NOT have the Black Square Bishop which is needed to support the promotion of its h pawn to h8 = Queen, with the White Square Bishop it is impossible to win with two pawns and the wrong color Bishop

[fen]8/8/8/6k1/8/5B1b/6PP/5K2 w - - 0 1 [/fen]

[pgn][Event "Computer chess game"]
[Site "DESKTOP-OFQ3C0P"]
[Date "2022.06.17"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Shredder8"]
[Black "Berserk-9-x64-avx2"]
[Result "1-0"]
[BlackElo "3440"]
[Time "15:12:14"]
[WhiteElo "2810"]
[TimeControl "300+3"]
[SetUp "1"]
[FEN "8/8/8/6k1/8/5B1b/6PP/5K2 w - - 0 1"]
[Termination "normal"]
[PlyCount "10"]
[WhiteType "program"]
[BlackType "program"]


1. gxh3 {(g2xh3 Kg5-h4 Bf3-e4 Kh4-g5 Be4-g2 Kg5-h4 Kf1-g1 Kh4-g5 Bg2-e4
Kg5-h4 Be4-f5 Kh4-g5 Bf5-h7) +3.21/28 8} Kf5 {(Kg5-f5 Bf3-h1 Kf5-g5 Kf1-f2
Kg5-h4 Bh1-g2 Kh4-h5 Bg2-e4 Kh5-h4 Be4-g2 Kh4-h5 Bg2-e4 Kh5-h4 Be4-g2
Kh4-h5) -4.01/29 7} 2. Bd1 {(Bf3-d1 Kf5-f6 Kf1-f2 Kf6-g5 Bd1-c2 Kg5-h5
Kf2-g3 Kh5-g5 Bc2-b3) +4.20/26 11} Ke4 {(Kf5-e4 Kf1-f2 Ke4-e5 Kf2-g3 Ke5-d6
Kg3-f4 Kd6-e7 Kf4-g5 Ke7-f8 Kg5-f6 Kf8-g8 Kf6-g6 Kg8-h8 Bd1-f3 Kh8-g8 h3-h4
Kg8-h8 Bf3-g4 Kh8-g8 Bg4-e6+ Kg8-h8 Kg6-g5 Kh8-g7 Be6-g4 Kg7-g8 Bg4-f5
Kg8-h8 Kg5-f6 Kh8-g8 h4-h5 Kg8-h8 h5-h6 Kh8-g8 h6-h7+ Kg8-h8 Kf6-e5 Kh8-g7
Bf5-c2 Kg7-h8 Bc2-d3 Kh8-g7 Ke5-f4 Kg7-h8 Kf4-g5 Kh8-g7 h2-h4 Kg7-h8 Bd3-e4
Kh8-g7 Be4-c2 Kg7-h8 Kg5-h5 Kh8-g7 Bc2-b1 Kg7-h8 Kh5-g4 Kh8-g7) -257.10/26
3} 3. Bc2+ {(Bd1-c2+ Ke4-f3 Kf1-g1 Kf3-f4 h3-h4 Kf4-g4 h4-h5 Kg4xh5 h2-h3)
+4.28/25 7} Ke5 {(Ke4-e5 Kf1-f2 Ke5-e6 h3-h4 Ke6-f6 Kf2-g3 Kf6-e6 Kg3-f4
Ke6-f7 Kf4-g5 Kf7-g8 Kg5-g6 Kg8-h8 h4-h5 Kh8-g8 h2-h4 Kg8-h8 h5-h6 Kh8-g8
h6-h7+ Kg8-h8 Kg6-h5 Kh8-g7 Kh5-g4 Kg7-h8 Bc2-d3 Kh8-g7 Bd3-g6 Kg7-h8 h4-h5
Kh8-g7 Bg6-d3 Kg7-h8 Kg4-h3 Kh8-g7 Kh3-g2 Kg7-h8 Bd3-b1 Kh8-g7 Kg2-g3
Kg7-h8 Bb1-e4 Kh8-g7 Kg3-g4 Kg7-h8 Kg4-h3 Kh8-g7 Kh3-g2 Kg7-h8 Kg2-f2
Kh8-g7 Kf2-g3 Kg7-h8 Be4-d3 Kh8-g7 Bd3-g6 Kg7-h8 Kg3-h4 Kh8-g7 Bg6-e4
Kg7-h8 Kh4-g4 Kh8-g7 Be4-c2 Kg7-h8 Kg4-g5 Kh8-g7 Bc2-d3 Kg7-h8 Kg5-g6)
-257.10/27 4} 4. Bb1 {(Bc2-b1 Ke5-f6 Kf1-f2 Kf6-g5 Kf2-g3 Kg5-h6 Bb1-d3
Kh6-g5 Bd3-c2 Kg5-h6 Kg3-g4 Kh6-g7 Kg4-h4 Kg7-f6 Kh4-h5 Kf6-g7 Bc2-a4
Kg7-h7 Ba4-b5) +4.25/30 19} Kf6 {(Ke5-f6 h3-h4 Kf6-g7 Kf1-f2 Kg7-f7 Kf2-e3
Kf7-f6 h4-h5 Kf6-g5 Bb1-g6 Kg5-f6 Ke3-f4 Kf6-g7 Kf4-g5 Kg7-f8 h5-h6 Kf8-g8
Kg5-f6 Kg8-h8 Bg6-e4 Kh8-g8 h2-h4 Kg8-h8 h4-h5 Kh8-g8 Kf6-g6 Kg8-h8 Be4-d3
Kh8-g8 Bd3-e2 Kg8-h8 Be2-f3 Kh8-g8 Kg6-g5 Kg8-h8 Bf3-g4 Kh8-g8 Kg5-g6
Kg8-h8 Kg6-f6 Kh8-h7 Kf6-f7 Kh7-h8 Bg4-h3 Kh8-h7 Bh3-f5+ Kh7-h8 Kf7-e6
Kh8-g8 Bf5-b1 Kg8-h8 Bb1-e4 Kh8-g8 Ke6-f6 Kg8-h8 Kf6-g5 Kh8-g8 Kg5-h4
Kg8-h8 Kh4-g4 Kh8-g8 Kg4-g5 Kg8-h8 Kg5-g6 Kh8-g8 Be4-f5 Kg8-h8 Bf5-c2
Kh8-g8 h6-h7+ Kg8-h8 Kg6-g5 Kh8-g7 Bc2-f5 Kg7-h8 Bf5-b1 Kh8-g7 Kg5-g4
Kg7-h8 Bb1-e4 Kh8-g7 Kg4-f4 Kg7-h8 Be4-g6 Kh8-g7 Kf4-g5 Kg7-h8 Kg5-h4
Kh8-g7 Kh4-g4 Kg7-h8 Kg4-h3 Kh8-g7 Kh3-g2 Kg7-h8 Bg6-e4 Kh8-g7 Kg2-g3
Kg7-h8 Be4-f5 Kh8-g7 Kg3-g4 Kg7-h8 Kg4-f4 Kh8-g7 Kf4-e5 Kg7-h8 Ke5-f6)
-257.10/23 2} 5. Kf2 {(Kf1-f2 Kf6-g5 Kf2-g3 Kg5-f6 Kg3-h4 Kf6-e7 Kh4-g5
Ke7-f7 Bb1-d3 Kf7-f8 Kg5-g6 Kf8-g8 h3-h4) +4.41/31 1} Kg5 {(Kf6-g5 Kf2-g3
Kg5-h6 Kg3-g4 Kh6-g7 Bb1-c2 Kg7-h8 Kg4-f4 Kh8-g7 Kf4-g5 Kg7-h8 Bc2-b1
Kh8-g8 Kg5-f6 Kg8-h8 Bb1-f5 Kh8-g8 h3-h4 Kg8-h8 h4-h5 Kh8-g8 h2-h4 Kg8-h8
Bf5-g4 Kh8-h7 Kf6-g5 Kh7-g7 h5-h6+ Kg7-h8 h4-h5 Kh8-g8 Bg4-e2 Kg8-h8 Kg5-g6
Kh8-g8 Be2-d3 Kg8-h8 Kg6-f6 Kh8-g8 h6-h7+ Kg8-h8 Kf6-g5 Kh8-g7 Kg5-h4
Kg7-h8 Bd3-e4 Kh8-g7 Kh4-g5 Kg7-h8 Be4-b1 Kh8-g7 Kg5-f4 Kg7-h8 Kf4-e5
Kh8-g7 Bb1-f5 Kg7-h8 Ke5-f6) -257.10/27 6} 6. Kg3 {(Kf2-g3 Kg5-f6 Kg3-f4
Kf6-g7 Kf4-g5 Kg7-f8 Kg5-h6 Kf8-g8 Bb1-d3 Kg8-h8 Bd3-e4 Kh8-g8 Be4-c2
Kg8-h8 Bc2-f5 Kh8-g8 Bf5-b1 Kg8-h8 Bb1-e4 Kh8-g8 Be4-c2 Kg8-h8 Bc2-f5
Kh8-g8 Bf5-b1 Kg8-h8 Bb1-e4 Kh8-g8) +4.68/32 4} Kh6 {(Kg5-h6 Kg3-g4 Kh6-g7
Kg4-g5 Kg7-g8 Kg5-f6 Kg8-h8 Bb1-f5 Kh8-g8 h3-h4 Kg8-h8 h4-h5 Kh8-g8 h2-h4
Kg8-h8 Bf5-g4 Kh8-h7 Kf6-g5 Kh7-g7 Bg4-f3 Kg7-h8 Kg5-g6 Kh8-g8 Bf3-d5+
Kg8-h8 Kg6-g5 Kh8-h7 Bd5-e4+ Kh7-g7 h5-h6+ Kg7-h8 h4-h5 Kh8-g8 h6-h7+
Kg8-h8 Kg5-g4 Kh8-g7 Be4-d3 Kg7-h8 Kg4-g5 Kh8-g7 Bd3-b1 Kg7-h8 Kg5-h4
Kh8-g7 Kh4-h3 Kg7-h8 Kh3-g2 Kh8-g7 Bb1-f5 Kg7-h8 Kg2-f2 Kh8-g7 Bf5-c2
Kg7-h8 Kf2-e3 Kh8-g7 Bc2-b1 Kg7-h8 Bb1-g6 Kh8-g7 Bg6-d3 Kg7-h8 Bd3-b1
Kh8-g7 Ke3-f2 Kg7-h8 Kf2-g3 Kh8-g7 Kg3-g4 Kg7-h8 Kg4-h3 Kh8-g7 Kh3-h4
Kg7-h8 Kh4-g4 Kh8-g7 Bb1-g6 Kg7-h8 Kg4-h3 Kh8-g7 Kh3-h4 Kg7-h8 Bg6-f5
Kh8-g7 Kh4-g4 Kg7-h8 Kg4-h3 Kh8-g7 Kh3-h4 Kg7-h8 Bf5-d3 Kh8-g7 Kh4-g5
Kg7-h8 Kg5-f6) -257.10/26 3 Black resigns} *[/pgn]